View Full Version : Autronic or Motec???
16-07-02, 09:12 PM
What is the pick?? I can afford a M48 Pro or a SM2. Does anyone run either of these and what are they like??
I want traction control, data-logging and the rest.
Motec will work out a fraction dearer but is easier for me to setup, Autronic is cheaper but more difficult to install.
What is the go???
I have an M48-Pro and it's excellent, esp the data logging and wide band control, but haven't used traction control. Never used an Autronic, but have heard they are as capable as the Motec.
16-07-02, 09:39 PM
What exactly are you going to hook it up to ?
16-07-02, 09:51 PM
go the motec there back up service is fantastic and if you buy it from there dealers they normally come out to tune it ,you just pay for the dyno time
17-07-02, 09:39 AM
Hi-I'm probably a bit bias as I've just installed an autronic-but from what I've heard about the older models the autronic is now much easier to install (ie-very easy). As for tuning it's really simple too. Although the actual maufactrer (richard in melbourne) is well known to be less than helpful-ray hall turbos in QLD have joined up with richard to some extent and have written a comprehensive manual (100 pages) and provide good support via email or phone if you have any questions.
Just my two cents anyway
17-07-02, 09:53 AM
I've only had experience with Motec and can only highly recommend them.
As was said, the after-sales service is superb.
Motec is used by nearly all top race cars in Aust. It is also the only propriatary ecu ever used by an F1 team (Williams).
Its probably the best in the world. Why wouldnt you use it if the competition costs more or less the same?
17-07-02, 02:37 PM
Pete, get yourself a Motec M48 Pro. You won't regret it. Back up is fantastic.
Offer cash and haggle like an Italian.:D
What prices have you been quoted? I'm interested in an M48 Pro as well.
I've had a Motec M4Pro in my RX-7 for a few years now and I am very happy with it. Datalogging is great, setup is great, support is good. If you can afford it, it is probably the pick of the bunch :)
17-07-02, 10:02 PM
The retail price for an M48 is $2585.
Loom without sensors $177.25
N/a loom & sensors $400.40
Boosted loom & sensors $437.20
Pro upgrade to the M48 $429
Logging upgrade $275
Wideband Lambda upgrade $1045
edo: Can you tell me more about the Williams F1 thing? I'd like to hear some more details. Bloody good show by the Aussie boys! Stick it to TAG Heuer, Magnetti-Marelli, Pectel and the others.. :)
Bill: Any idea on how much an M4 Clubman is? For a boosted engine (13B-T)..
I am also looking to acquire a M48 or M800 this year. Are there any publications that deal with operation? I've heard the included literature leaves much to be desired.
18-07-02, 02:01 PM
Chris, the prices are -
- M4 Clubman $2200
- M4 loom & sensors for turbo rotary $437.20. (Though you can use all the exisiting sensors already on the engine as the Motec can run just about any sensor at all. If that's the case then the loom would be only $177.25
That should be pretty much all you need.
JerRed, just ring up Motec and ask them for all the paperwork, they'll send it to you no probs.
It's a little hard to get your head around at first, but take some time and it all makes sense.
Bill: Thanks for that. :) Now should I sell the Wolf, and buy a MoTeC with my tax return.. *frowns*
22-07-02, 08:53 AM
If your not paying retail, you could probably get the M4 Clubman for around $1800.
I'm thinking about one myself. And if I ever have a requirement for more advanced features, go some upgrades on it (the beauty of motec)
Well the Autronic will be cheaper. But it depends on what engine you are using. The Autronic is a bit more fussy about the types of sensors it can use. It terms of drivability there will not be any difference between the two.
But you have already made your choice because only the Motec will do the data logging.
24-07-02, 04:41 PM
Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. :p
correct me if i'm wrong, BUT autronic does come with data logging
24-07-02, 09:26 PM
Datalogging is standard on SM2's and is an option on SMC's. (Depends on the chip version)
25-07-02, 02:30 AM
Data logging has been standard on SMC & SM2 for at least the last couple of years, but there is slightly more memory available on an SM2.
27-07-02, 12:56 AM
I actually had cause to use the datalogging on our autronic equipped racecars twice in two race meets... Having never even touched it before and being absolutely dead tired (why pay for our motel rooms if you are going to work us 60 hours straight?) it still fell immediately to hand and helped me confirm a few problems, one time was on the phone to our tuner who was in a transit lounge on the way back from belgium... none of this is relevant, I just had to tell someone.
29-07-02, 09:56 PM
the new autronic smc now has data loging stanard and it comes with auto tune it costs about $1595 with loom and sensors
the sm2 with auto tune costs about $2400 with loom and sensors
its a lot cheaper than motec
a lot of group A cars still use them
29-07-02, 10:09 PM
Not to mention the 2001 Championship winning and 2002 championship leading GTP car.
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