View Full Version : 323 Astina v6 ---> Eunos 800 2.3 Supercharged
05-08-02, 02:52 PM
I have a friend who has a 1994 V6 Mazda Astina. He would like to sell it but is goin to loose tooo much money so would also be happy with an engine swap.
Does anyone know if the eunos 800's 2.3L supercharged engine will go under the bonnet? Also if it will what needs to be done.
If this cant be done does anyone know what can be dont to give the car some mumbo... He doesnt want to keep the original engine.
Any help would be great.
Sounds like a great idea, but how much are the miller Cycle engines worth?! I've only seen one advertised, and it was $5k or so...
For that much money, you could turbo the stock motor, and save yourself a lot of work. I really have NO idea, but I suspect the Yanks have probably turbo'd and/or supercharged these motors...
And if he "can't" sell it because he's going to lose too much money, the best way to lose even more is an engine swap... I mean, it'll cost $8K or so for the swap (and that's assuming its a fairly easy swap) and then the car will be worth less than it is now...
05-08-02, 04:56 PM
If he does the swap he wil be able to keep it for ages. the only reason he wants something else is it is too slow, engine swap problem fixed :)
I have seen these engines for alot cheaper than $5k (i think)
Your friend would be better off taking the loss on the Astina since what he loses could then be knocked off the asking price of a miller cycle Eunos...the whole car!!:D
They don't sell very well and have a lot of stuff for the money...although I recall when I was thinking of one something that breaks in the engine that costs a small fortune to fix...some inherent flaw???
I used to own a Eunos 800M and found the engine was fantastic. I always wanted to put one of these engines into a MX6 but a astina is a good idea.
Just be carefull with the motor. They have a flaw with the supercharger oil seals which causes them to go smokey after about 60000 km. I pulled one of these blowers apart but could not find replacement seals.Mazda quoted me about $7000 for a new blower but I bought a S/H one for $2000. 10000km later it was smokey again so i traded the car.
Im told after about 1998 they redesigned the seals to fix the problem.
11-08-02, 12:21 AM
Is your mates car a manual or auto? Do you have any performance times on the car? 1/4 or 0-100......I've always been interested to know how they go.
If the 2.3 is also a K series engine I'd assume it wouldn't be too hard a swap. I'd say your best bet would be to try the probetalk or mx6.com boards, there should be people there that will know.
I also have a 1995 800M.
Fantastic car, a little smaller than a Commodore but with every luxury you could ever want. I also got the upgraded Bose stereo system, which is unreal.
I got 15.1 for the quarter down at the Motorplex.
My engine now has 240 000km on it, just clocked over the other day. No smoke, no problems, not even the slightest rumble. Biggest hurdle I have run in to is the cooling system, they seem to eat water pumps.
I have also got a quote for a brand spanker supercharger from Mazda.... $1349.45. A little bit different?
What else have I done to it? Nothing really. Supposedly the Miller component actually hampers performance while increasing fuel efficiency. I'm not too sure.
Kangz, If i were you Id by that supercharger because sooner or later i think you will need it . I think your Mazda dealer has made a mistake in their pricing. I even checked the pricing in the US and it was going to cost $5000 AUD landed.
I agree with you about the car though. It is probably the best car Ive ever owned. Its a shame they were not very popular and the resale value is so bad. I traded mine in on a Mazda Tribute and got $22000 for it. New I think they were about $75000.
16-08-02, 12:53 PM
A KL-ZE is the way to go. mx-3.com has some info on shoehorning a KL-ZE into a mx3 and related models.
The KL-ZE is a 200HP all alloy motor 2.5lt motor. Basically the same as the KL-03 in the probes / mx6's.
I am currently working on putting a KL-ZE in my Baja.
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