View Full Version : which v8 fuel injected motor to put in vl
L burner
09-08-02, 04:48 PM
yeh as the question says i got just over 2 grand and i want to put a v8 in my n/a vl
1. can it be done for this price (without labour cost)?
2. which fuel injected v8 fits in?
3. or can the later model v6 fit in (more power the the rb30e)?
thanx to who ever replys
Lot of ppl seem to think the Toyota / Lexus quadcam V8 is the way to go.
VHDREAMS
09-08-02, 06:30 PM
does it already have a motor? what motor? and does the 2 grand include selling the motor...
pearlvk
09-08-02, 10:25 PM
keep saving, u dont have enough yet to put an injected 8, well a holden one, and donno if u would be able to make it work with a v6 either, 2 k not enough.
inj, 8 cost like atleast 3000 for the engine only, well most do.just my .02c worth
L Burber
Ive got a schmick VL 5ltr Berlina if your interested, grey trim, rose champaign in colour HSV wheels 2.5" zaust, electric windows & mirrors.
I know it isnt a v8, but it is another option for a lil more poke
an rb20det from a r32 nissan skyline, 160kw in stock form
If you buy a front cut (for $2000), whihc my brother did, the front cut had everyhting he needed, the standard engine mounts bolted up, the stanadard exhaust bolted up, the crossmember off his old man ual gerbox bolted onto his new bearbox and then bolted up, the engine loom compltely replaced the old engine loom and the fuel lines lined straight up, the radiator hose isnt perfect but close enough until you can get a new one. there is a lil wiring to do, but you will be amazed at how well it all fits.
just an idea, it also goes faster than his older enigne an dusese less fuel on equivalent driving, as it is turbo and only 2 litre instead of 3 litre, so its more efficient when crusing, but its only drawback is the lack of torque down low, as the engine is more suited to 4.1 diff gears and his vl has 3.45 from memory
chad
L burner
11-08-02, 09:57 AM
chad
i was thinking of going turbo but i din't know it wasn't as complicated. all my mates say its not worth converting but is better of selling my vl and buying a stock calais turbo or a worked vk or earlier. but then i spent so much money on the looks of my car and i would lose money when selling it. one question what sort of places can u get rb20et or rb30et from? (i live in sunshine coast. north of brisbane)
tandy ass
11-08-02, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by Chad
just an idea, it also goes faster than his older enigne an dusese less fuel on equivalent driving, as it is turbo and only 2 litre instead of 3 litre, so its more efficient when crusing, but its only drawback is the lack of torque down low, as the engine is more suited to 4.1 diff gears and his vl has 3.45 from memory
chad
The 2 litre turbo uses 25-40% more fuel than the 3 litre NA engine. It is FAR less economical, but it is a great engine if you love thrashing it :)
is this from ur experieince bozz?
i just asked my brother again what he gets from hsi tank of fuel, i was wrong in saying he gets more kms per tank, he gets spot on the same amount of kms per tank.
And yes it is a good motor for thrashing.
tandy ass
13-08-02, 07:41 AM
Yep, I've owned all of Nissan's RB family of motors except the RB26DETT and RB30ET
Check www.skylinesaustralia.com and www.skylinesdownunder.co.nz and you'll get similar reports - the RB20DET uses 12-15 litres per 100km, ie a full tank gets between 300-400km for most people.
The R32 GTS4 Skyline (RB20DET) used to get 350km to a full tank of fuel.
The 3 litre uses 9-10 litres/100km, I used to get 550km on a full tank of fuel on the highway and 500km in the city. They can use dramatically more if out of tune, though. Now I have the RB25DET and I get 350km in town and 400km if i'm lucky on the highway.
These engines in the examples are stock standard, in perfect tune. Start increasing the boost or altering things and fuel consumption will generally increase, as it did when I put the 3" mandrel exhaust on my car....
okay cool mr bozz, but the vl wit taller gearning is likely to get better fuel economy right compared to the equivalent skyline if they both have rb20's? both of these engines are in stock standard form, and are getting near on identical fuel consumption rates, thats what my brother is getting and has gotten anyway
Actually, if you have all the tools &/or know someone who has, and can do a lot of the work yourself, $2k is probably not all that low a figure. A mate of mine put a 185i HSV motor into a Range Rover for not all that much more than that; but he & his father-in-law have every welding & metal-punishing tool you can imagine so they did virtually the whole thing themselves.
As soon as you start paying people, you blow out the equation by a heap; I may have paid a little too much (but I wanted someone I can trust), but it just cost me ~$800 for a turbo exhaust manifold including ceramic coating inside & out - so you can see how any custom stuff boosts your costs.
But hey, I'm probably telling you stuff you already know ... sorry, just on a ramble. :)
Hey chad: It's up to you in the end do you want a VEE8 or Turbo6? I'd be happy with either, probably be able to go the InjV8 route because you already have all the fueling requirments [ie elec pump]... Turbo's are relatively easy, too... But its up to you...
Forg: Man how'd your mates score a HSV V8 that cheap? Good contacts? :), Maybe I should start making friends with the wreckers 'round here 'bouts... :)
tandy ass
16-08-02, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by Chad
okay cool mr bozz, but the vl wit taller gearning is likely to get better fuel economy right compared to the equivalent skyline if they both have rb20's? both of these engines are in stock standard form, and are getting near on identical fuel consumption rates, thats what my brother is getting and has gotten anyway
No for two reasons -
If the VL has taller gearing, you'll be using a lower gear at the same speed compared to the Nissan to obtain driveability. You wont be using fifth gear at 50km/h on suburban streets if the gearing is (hypothetically) 20% lower.
Both the VL and the Skyline began with the 3 litre. Convert either and fuel consumption will increase the same percentage. The RB20DET is NOT a more fuel efficient engine compared to the RB30E if both are in perfect tune.
the rb20det is probably less fuel efficient than the rb30e, but they still use the same amount of fuel for the same amount fo kilometres, okay, so in comparison, it is less fuel efficient on a kilometres travelled to a capacity comparison , but gets just as many kilometres per tank of fuel.
cool?
tandy ass
19-08-02, 09:51 PM
Nope.
20 uses 12-15 litres/100km
30 uses 9-10 litres/100km
If your 3 litre uses as much fuel as the 2 litre then it was seriously stuffed.
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