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RB26DETT
27-08-02, 11:10 AM
what type of brake pads should i get for my torana i want some thing with lots of bite and will give minimul brake fade, and brake dust dosent realy bother me?
im thinking about getting metal kings what do you recon?
UC Torana
dattoman1000
27-08-02, 10:08 PM
I'm not sure who to see in Adelaide but I'd get some Ultimates would be a batter idea than metals.
Which caliper do you have ?
Girlock alloy like a commodore or PBR alloy ?
If you have the commy syle its the same pad DB1085 so your choices are increased. You can get almost anything in that shape.
RB26DETT
28-08-02, 10:50 AM
i have just got the the standard torana drake clipers
If you can get Ferodo Excels they are a very good choice, if not then Bendix Ultimates. These are the better options from the normal sort of pads. If you want to go silly then try the EBC greens or other similar street spec pads (you will pay close to twice as much for them tho'.)
cheers
dattoman1000
28-08-02, 09:17 PM
Excels are O.K
Not much choice in the Bendix range...just STD or Metals
EBC don't make them in that shape
If you look around you can get Lucas....dusty but they work great.
RB26DETT
29-08-02, 09:36 AM
i ended up getting metal kings for $60 so i tought that was good, im about to cross drill my discs then i will put the new pads in and i will see how it will go
Yeah, Lucas pads are pretty cool. Dusty as all hell and they squeek worse than a semi-trailer if you drive around like a granny for too long.
Previously I had Bendix Standards on my 1470 kg Verada. If I broke hard from 180 km/h, by 150 km/h the pads would be totally rooted.
Now with the Lucas pads I can stop repeatedly from high speeds (though I don't think they are up to track work).
Mind you, I have stock steel wheels with hubcaps so I probably don't get much cooling air on my brakes.
Also, the Lucas pads have a fairly consistent bite from cold to hot. I'm quite impressed with them.
Best of all, they're cheap. About half the price of EBC Greenstuff and the brake guy told me they are very similar (except more dusty). Also, they are asbestos free.
dattoman1000
30-08-02, 09:17 PM
So let me get this straight......
Your going to drill your own solid std torana disc rotors yourself ?
Where would you like me to send the flowers for your funeral ???
Chances are your not going to do it right or get them balanced so I would strongly advise against it.
If your keen for alittle better performance and don't want to buy new discs then get them down to an engineer and have them put some slots across the running face. 4 on each face should be enough. Only have them slot them to the minimum thickness of the rotor 14.3mm
This should satify the need..............safely.
RB26DETT
31-08-02, 08:28 PM
well its too late there drilled and i havent had any problems i did it on one of them about 6 months ago to give it a test to see how much diffrence it makes and how well it works, i had no problems and found that the rotors cool down a fair bit quicker and had better performance. and yes the rotos are balance coz i worked it out properly and made sure that there was enough gap inbertween the holes so they wouldnt crack and brake (20mm)
also when i had 1 of my discks before i was cookin the brakes and getting brake fade and i still had no problems with that disk!!!
this is how they turned out
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~jncock/mypic11.JPG
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~jncock/mypic10.JPG
dattoman1000
01-09-02, 02:22 AM
Some people have to learn by their own mistakes I guess.
Good luck to you
You seem to have some irregular contact from the pads on those discs.
Drilling rotors won't help brake fade on a system thats under-engineered to be a shopping trolley with a big engine and big right hoof.
Notice how almost every form of motorsport now doesn't use drilled rotors anymore........wonder why that is ?????
Might have something to do with better friction materials and rotor design.
simon010
02-09-02, 05:29 PM
lots of porches still use drilled disks . . . . . . . . as do most of the formula sae cars
i agree with dattomans comments about not gettiing full contact with the pad, and that 3 PCD's for the location of holes isnt the best way of doing it
but it does work, and can be done with a simple drill press if you lay out the pattern correclty
it does casue cracking (starts with radial cracks aroud the holes) but it does increase bite
does anyone have any actual tech data on surface temps slots versus drilled
regards
simon
dattoman1000
02-09-02, 09:16 PM
Brembo discs as fitted to Porsche's and used in Motorsport are usually not drilled. The holes are actually cast into the disc. If you take a close look at them the hole is totally encased in cast metal. This is not the case with all discs I know.
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