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Trueno_gze
04-12-02, 12:43 PM
hey ppl i got a sprinter and was wondering where i can put the surge tank leagally.. i live in WA.
cheers az
Passion-Fingers
04-12-02, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Trueno_gze
hey ppl i got a sprinter and was wondering where i can put the surge tank leagally.. i live in WA.
cheers az

I'd say inside the tank(ie, modify the tank) or in between the diff and the tank if you know what i mean? if you look under the car you prolly see theres some room there. :rolleyes:

I'm actually thinking about the same thing for mine and these are what've i've come up with so if anyone has any better suggestions..

I'm still thinking of just chucking it inside the car, but that prolly wouldn't be legal would it... :)
RB26DETT
04-12-02, 04:45 PM
if you put it in yu oot ect it hasto be ventelated
Passion-Fingers
04-12-02, 08:39 PM
Just had a thought...
putting it inside might not be the best idea as if you crashed you have fuel goin everywhere, especially in an Ae86 as its just behind the driver/passenger really.
At least one fuel line from it would be under preasure to so that can't be good!
Norbie
04-12-02, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by RB26DETT
if you put it in yu oot ect it hasto be ventelated
WTF? Were you trying to type upside down? :p
THE ASH
05-12-02, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by RB26DETT
if you put it in yu oot ect it hasto be ventelated

Translation: If you put it in your boot ect, it has to be ventilated.

:)
Sprinter
06-12-02, 04:29 PM
I got one made up and put it between the fuel tank and diff. It has around an 800ml capacity and I have no problem with surge at all.
BALISTC
06-12-02, 06:51 PM
Put it in the engine bay....

There is a particular workshop in Perth who fitted engine bay mounted surge tanks to all their vehicles :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Smart, huh?
RB26DETT
07-12-02, 08:52 PM
yep thats it im puting mine in the engine bay

i cant see any problems with that, can any one else??
Norbie
08-12-02, 09:19 AM
Nah man, sounds really sensible.
2JZR31
08-12-02, 09:52 AM
I was thinking of duct taping one to my extractors
tandy ass
08-12-02, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by DennisRB30
I was thinking of duct taping one to my extractors

ROFL
BALISTC
08-12-02, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by DennisRB30
I was thinking of duct taping one to my extractors

LMAO :D
Trueno_gze
08-12-02, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by DennisRB30
I was thinking of duct taping one to my extractors
hahhahaa
when u guys talk bout ventilation, what do u mean??
cheers az
ALLMTR
08-12-02, 08:04 PM
Be careful of location as you want to keep your fuel as cool as possible

or as RB26DETT would say

B ecarfool if lacotion sa ya went too kee pyo rfeul sac oool saposs abl e
Sprinta
08-12-02, 08:37 PM
As you know aaron, mines inbetween diff and tank
:)
ALLMTR
08-12-02, 09:12 PM
Yeah mine is next to the fuel cell under the car....where it should be.......
RB26DETT
09-12-02, 03:11 PM
ALLMTR = smart ass

its not about keeping it cool = its about having ventalation so that if there is a leek the fumes dont go into the cabbin, if ya understand
demuire
25-09-03, 12:27 AM
Coming back to this topic:

If I fit the surge tank in the engine bay, what do I have to do with the lines?

AFAIK the people up there are mainly concerned about high pressure fuel systems in the cabin (including boot), so if I run a low pressure high volume pump from the boot (fuel tank is in the boot) that should be okay?

Since I'm not running high pressure from the boot anymore, do I need to upgrade my fuel lines to EFI lines (as in 5/16")? Or can I run the stock feed and return lines to the surge, and then just have the high pressure lines from the surge to the engine (which would only be a very short distance)?
Uncle Arthur
25-09-03, 02:57 PM
The petrol tank, pickup pump, EFI pump and surge pot should be close together, with the surge pot and both pumps as low as possible, in a cool, protected place outside the body.

Putting any of that stuff in the engine bay is a less efficient and potentially unreliable compramise, to say the least.
demuire
25-09-03, 03:11 PM
The only other place I can think of would be under the boot floor (next to the spare wheel well), how would you protect it there? Have a bolt in plate that covers it?
JZA-61
25-09-03, 03:35 PM
I've been trying to get a clear answet from the WA DPI on the issue of boot mounted surge talks - they keep passing the buck: do it, take it to your engineer and see if he'll pass it". Thanks, mate!:mad:

I do know that others in Perth have had boot mounted surge tanks and pumps approved. BUT, that was in an enclosed boot - not a rear hatchback cabin without a barrier to the driving compartment.

I am assuming that it would NOT be kosher to mount it in the rear hatch, but can't get a firm word.

Justin
JZA61
demuire
25-09-03, 03:55 PM
My understanding also is that you can't put it in an open boot/cabin (as in like a rear hatch).

My Corolla boot is effectively "enclosed" but isn't really. All that is between the boot and the cabin is the fuel tank and the rear seat, with both of these removed you can crawl between the two quite easily...