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1988 E30 M3. Imported from Japan about 3 yrs and converted to RHD. Currently undergoing extensive engine rebuild . Read more about that here (http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67193083&page=3&highlight=rebuild).
Engine Specs:-
2.5 Litre S14 Blue Printed Motor
2.5 Litre 87mm Crank
95mm JE Custom made ceramic coated forged alloy pistons. 8.1:1 CR
PPF Verdi 'H' profile Rods
Cometic MLS Head Gasket
EVO III Oil Pump
Head Ported and Polished
EVO III Valve Springs
Re-seated Valves
248/248 Cams
ARP Head Studs
Custom Made Ceramic Coated Turbo Manifold and Dump Pipe
Custom Made Stainless Steel Exhaust
Garrett GT3076R .82 A/R Turbocharger - 1.4 bar boost
Tial 44mm Wastegate
Turbosmart Plumb Back BOV
PWR 500x300x73 Alloy Intercooler
PWR Custom Radiator
Samco Hoses
Turner Motorsport Sump Baffle
Spal Thermo Fan
Bosch Motorsport Fuel Pump
Bosch 550cc Injectors
Autronic SM4
Chassis:-
Front H&R/Bilstein Coilovers
Rear Kingsprings/Bilstein
K-Mac adjustable camber plates
AC Schnitzer Front Strut Brace
Solo-T Rear Strut Brace
Solo-T Rear Shock Mounts
AC Schnitzer E30 M3 S3 3 piece rims - 17x7 1/2" and 17x8 1/2"
235/40ZR17 Yokohama AVS V102 Rear
215/40ZR17 Yokohama AVS V102 Front
Exterior:-
Carbon Fibre EVO III Rear Spoiler
EVO II Front Spoiler
Carbon Fibre Front Splitter
Carbon Fibre EVO III Brake Ducts
Carbon Fibre DTM Cup Mirrors
Interior:-
ACS Steering Wheel
ACS Pedal Set
ACS Hand Brake
ACS Gear Shift
Solo-T SSK
Sparco Pro 2000 Seat
http://www.dcr62.net/3.jpg
http://www.dcr62.net/4.jpg
http://www.dcr62.net/9.jpg
http://www.dcr62.net/7.jpg
http://www.dcr62.net/8.jpg
http://www.dcr62.net/25.jpg
That, sir, is the shit.
Cant wait till new motor is done.
Billzilla
29-11-06, 11:51 AM
Noice!
MR-PUNANNY
29-11-06, 11:52 AM
Awesome!!!! I love it!!
Please don't ever put those white wheels on it again. :gay: I love that car so much. Might just be my favourite car on PF I reckon.
Cal.
Please don't ever put those white wheels on it again. :gay:
Cal.
BBS 3 piece track rims only.
Awesome Bimmer :worship: :worship:
Looking forward to seeing this thing with its new motor in my rear view mirror getting smaller and smaller
http://www.dcr62.net/9.jpg
OMG What an awesome photo....whoever would have taken that!?!?!?! He must be a photography god!! :D
Awesome car mate, it will be part of my life forever...my favourite on PF for sure.
whoever would have taken that!?!?!?! He must be a photography god!! :D
I heard he got ripped off when god was giving out wangs. :yup:
Cal.
OMG What an awesome photo....whoever would have taken that!?!?!?! He must be a photography god!! :D
Yes, thanks for that Kev. Was that pre bang or post? I think it was about 100metres before it went bang.
Awesome car, its going to be a weapon with the new powerplant.
intehnet
29-11-06, 07:06 PM
probably my favorite car on pf also
<3
Very nice looking car, would like to walk into the garage and find it in there.
Very nice looking car, would like to walk into the garage and find it in there.
No you wouldn't. The current owner has connections and you'd end up getting charged.
Puff_Datto
29-11-06, 10:15 PM
fucking hell that is prime
The photo of the M3 sitting in the driveway is so hot! Love it.
Is the tint on those windows legal? :p
The photo of the M3 sitting in the driveway is so hot! Love it.
Is the tint on those windows legal? :p
Yes. Its just that it is an overcast day.
Alright then. I'll take note of that reason next time I am pulled up and asked if my tint is legal :D
Well done, you'll need to get some videos online of it when it is running around doing what it is meant to.
Well done, you'll need to get some videos online of it when it is running around doing what it is meant to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u3NTFEk38s <----Morgan Park
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP15aoCen6g <-----Willowbank
morerevsm3
30-11-06, 09:47 AM
as I have said on many occasions, that car is even more teh hotness than a starlet (with possible exception of Rollins) and is about to get the performance to match the looks, pure awesomeness, all pics should be labelled *NWS*
Beautifull looking car mate......
Something i'd really love to own...but am to scared too....so I just admire cars like yours and stay with what I know for myself...the Jap stuff :)
Uncle Arthur
01-12-06, 03:29 PM
Yeh nice looker, not sure about that rear suspension though. And thats the best you are going to get from me Dave :)
not sure about that rear suspension though.
They work, thats all that is important. Have tried Eibach, H&R and neither worked as well as the kings.
Dave
I will own one some day. Looks Tough as nails in black.
GUN_R32
09-12-06, 09:09 PM
pics only do it half justice. Seeing it in the flesh brings a whole new level of appreciation
ironhorse
10-12-06, 07:08 AM
http://www.dcr62.net/3.jpg
damn ,thats hawt . Needs JPS stickers with gold rims FTW
evil_weevil
10-12-06, 08:31 AM
fucking hot
Nice car, great condition
Revhead
27-11-09, 09:14 AM
Holy fucking thread mining batman!
Nice car, great condition
And your client wants to settle today as they are going oversea and request the lowest price? :lol:
Mr_Meaner
27-11-09, 10:39 AM
Can someone please ban Gools for being a dumbshit?
Holy fucking thread mining batman!
FFS, since when did it become bad form for somebody to comment on somebody else's car, no matter how old the thread is?
myliberty
27-11-09, 11:48 AM
FFS, since when did it become bad form for somebody to comment on somebody else's car, no matter how old the thread is?
you didn't get the memo?
FFS, since when did it become bad form for somebody to comment on somebody else's car, no matter how old the thread is?
August 7, 1978.
It was a dark and stormy night, the type that caused nipples to be erect and the idea of afros on white men to seem like a good idea. George "The Funkadelic Garbage Truck" Johnston had just finished a shift at the bar he worked - The Flaming Cuntrash - in the underground hills of Southport.
George, or Funkadelic GT as he liked to be known, was in prime disco form with his Fairlane returned that day with the paint stripped off and the exterior completely recovered in purple velvet (offsetting the interior trimmed in astro turf and alligator skin). He was sure he'd be mackin' bitches all night with such a superfly ride and set out to go show off his massive lapels - which, due to their massive oversize nature, also doubled as an emergency landing strip for B52s - and impress the hos with some serious disco skill... like cooking pancakes while dancing.
Rather than risking getting his far outta groovy sight velvet-covered Fairlane all un-funked he locked it up in a glass cube and strutted his way down to the discotheque, abandoning the fondue he was making in the oversized Ford (I told you it was superfly, mother-licker). Funkadelic GT was halfway to the club when he was set-upon by a group of bogans who threatened to beat him with their removable mullets.
Remembering that he had The Funk (in a convenient can form for when you absolutely, positively have to bust every cracker honky's ass), Funkadelic GT channeled the Bootsy Collins and had soon drowned the flannel-wearing troglodytes in cheesy fondue. Several hours later, on his way back to the Fairlane, Funkadelic GT passed by the bogans still lying in fondue with one pulling his face out of the tepid cheesy slop to proclaim, "Sweet ride, dude. Chuck a skid you cunt." before expiring.
The delay in the compliment angered him so greatly that Funkadelic GT tore his safari suit off (never fear, he had a brown jumpsuit on underneath - this is a PG timeslot) and walked off into the night, never to bust a move on a QLD dance floor again, although there have been some sightings over the years, including on the Gold Coast behind the wheel of a black Porsche with Q plates...
So now you know. Friends don't let friends thread dig.
Regards,
Ginger McRangatron
nastypaul
27-11-09, 01:41 PM
:lol::lol:
Revhead
27-11-09, 03:28 PM
FFS, since when did it become bad form for somebody to comment on somebody else's car, no matter how old the thread is?Who lit the fuse on your tampon?
Marv - GOLD!!! :lol:
carcrazy
27-11-09, 09:33 PM
Who lit the fuse on your tampon?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Probally the first time ive laughed this week!!!!!
Sketchy
30-11-09, 12:21 PM
So Q really is Ginger McRangatron? I knew it all along. You hear me Paul? I knew it!!!!!
bahaimus
30-11-09, 01:33 PM
August 7, 1978.
It was a dark and stormy night, the type that caused nipples to be erect and the idea of afros on white men to seem like a good idea. George "The Funkadelic Garbage Truck" Johnston had just finished a shift at the bar he worked - The Flaming Cuntrash - in the underground hills of Southport.
George, or Funkadelic GT as he liked to be known, was in prime disco form with his Fairlane returned that day with the paint stripped off and the exterior completely recovered in purple velvet (offsetting the interior trimmed in astro turf and alligator skin). He was sure he'd be mackin' bitches all night with such a superfly ride and set out to go show off his massive lapels - which, due to their massive oversize nature, also doubled as an emergency landing strip for B52s - and impress the hos with some serious disco skill... like cooking pancakes while dancing.
Rather than risking getting his far outta groovy sight velvet-covered Fairlane all un-funked he locked it up in a glass cube and strutted his way down to the discotheque, abandoning the fondue he was making in the oversized Ford (I told you it was superfly, mother-licker). Funkadelic GT was halfway to the club when he was set-upon by a group of bogans who threatened to beat him with their removable mullets.
Remembering that he had The Funk (in a convenient can form for when you absolutely, positively have to bust every cracker honky's ass), Funkadelic GT channeled the Bootsy Collins and had soon drowned the flannel-wearing troglodytes in cheesy fondue. Several hours later, on his way back to the Fairlane, Funkadelic GT passed by the bogans still lying in fondue with one pulling his face out of the tepid cheesy slop to proclaim, "Sweet ride, dude. Chuck a skid you cunt." before expiring.
The delay in the compliment angered him so greatly that Funkadelic GT tore his safari suit off (never fear, he had a brown jumpsuit on underneath - this is a PG timeslot) and walked off into the night, never to bust a move on a QLD dance floor again, although there have been some sightings over the years, including on the Gold Coast behind the wheel of a black Porsche with Q plates...
So now you know. Friends don't let friends thread dig.
Regards,
Ginger McRangatron
Jesus. H. Tittyfucking. Christ. :eek:
:rotflol::rotflol::rotflol::rotflol:
So Q really is Ginger McRangatron? I knew it all along. You hear me Paul? I knew it!!!!!
Phil, you have misread I think. Ginger McRangatron is Marv. Q is in fact George "The Funkadelic Garbage Truck" Johnston.......
Greg Rust
30-11-09, 10:46 PM
Well I found the pic in the driveway equally pleasing and request more of said vehicle.
Definitely in my top 10 of all cars, this parked next to a Lancia Delta Integrale HF is the boxed fenders batoff olympics.
Sketchy
30-11-09, 11:14 PM
You are correct clayton. My sincere apologies to Mr McRangatron and Mr "Garbage Truck" Johnston.
I'm still watching you however............ :huh:
You are correct clayton. My sincere apologies to Mr McRangatron and Mr "Garbage Truck" Johnston.
I'm still watching you however............ :huh:
That's ok. If I ever get to a QLD PF meet you and I can make watermelon helmets to make amends, ok? Grand. :)
New wheels are on. BBS Style 5 18 x 9 and 18 x 8.
http://www.dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/E30%20M3/BBS%20Rims%201.jpg
http://www.dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/E30%20M3/BBS%20Rims%202.jpg
http://www.dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/E30%20M3/BBS%20Rims%203.jpg
tremolo
09-12-10, 02:59 PM
I just came a bit in my pants
this car is all kinds of awesome.
myliberty
09-12-10, 03:07 PM
fuck that looks good. really good.
Nice colour, but I wish the dish had a step in it.
willsy01
09-12-10, 03:12 PM
I just came a bit in my pants
A bit? I dumped a whole fucking load......
Cookiemonster
09-12-10, 03:16 PM
Sensational DCR!
I was thinking 18s would look too big, but it looks great Dave.
Very nice Dave...your now only a set of stickers away from this (http://www.dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/JPSE30M3c.jpg)
I would really like to add this to my static displays in my Garage :D
Fuck Dave, just when I thought it couldn't get any hotter.
Perfect wheels and fit.
Weren't you going to change them from polished? Crazy talk!
SausageFingers
09-12-10, 06:05 PM
They are teh SEX.
Awesome. :) Love it
Black cars look great when they're clean. Spend a lot of time cleaning and polishing?
LINCOLN
09-12-10, 06:29 PM
Man they look good.
Pics please with the car out of the garage.... pronto
Cameron_Datto
09-12-10, 06:49 PM
Sweet As Bro :>)
lickmyleftone
09-12-10, 07:33 PM
honey, I want to go to bed.
RIGHT NOW!!!
Sketchy
09-12-10, 07:54 PM
I just came a bit in my pants
Me too. Dunno how that happened with me not wearing your pants though.
sh|tbmxrider
10-12-10, 12:40 AM
Very nice Dave.
Sets off the body kit well.
Impressive looking car mate.
Cameron_Datto
11-12-10, 06:21 AM
Dave , i looked at the first page on this thread and saw the Track pics and thought, gee those wheels look small , I went to page 2 and saw the Pics , and thought , Now thats More like i was thinking , eXcellent Choice in rims :>)
old_geez
11-12-10, 07:37 AM
was talking to Dave last night....pity the wheels don't actually turn. They rub EVERYWHERE.
Either a lift kit or smaller tyres to come
Still looks hot though....
Cameron_Datto
11-12-10, 07:52 AM
was talking to Dave last night....pity the wheels don't actually turn. They rub EVERYWHERE.
Either a lift kit or smaller tyres to come
Still looks hot though....
Hmm ..i have a Big Hammer:>)
I am bumping this thread to tell you how fucking great this thing looks!! I was the bloke in the red Mira this morning gorking at it on the Logan Mway. Looks brilliant on the road mate, well done.
Ahh ok. Turned off at logan?
Beautiful machine mate, awesome to see a genuine E30 M3, even better to see it being driven the way it was designed to be...
The gold BBS's look horn too, very period!
Just need to get the bonnet off to the painter. The amount of hot air the vents release was quite staggering after a run down to Sanctuary Cove on the weekend.
http://www.dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/E30%20M3/CF%20Bonnet%202.jpg
Tripper
27-04-11, 07:23 PM
looks better with the red strip gone
Holy shit i am carrying so much wood right now
Sketchy
27-04-11, 08:03 PM
I dont reckon the euro look lights suit it. Looks much more menacing in black with nice clear lights. I'm guessing you did it to tie in the wheels?
No mid chassis brace no care.
Nah looks hawt. Good job.
Mr_Meaner
27-04-11, 08:19 PM
I dont reckon the euro look lights suit it.
+1. They let the rest of the car down.
Such a hot car but the headlights have no place on this beast
Euroboost
27-04-11, 08:37 PM
I'd leave the bonnet unpainted. M.A.Shaw?
+1 on the yellow lights looking wrong. Try and find a set of Hella black magic headlights. I know Trakka used to sell them, as part of the Projektzo kit for VW Transporters. I also know a couple of Mk3 Golfs running around with them so they can be had here. Would make this thing look even tougher.
I'd leave the bonnet unpainted. M.A.Shaw?
+1 on the yellow lights looking wrong. Try and find a set of Hella black magic headlights. I know Trakka used to sell them, as part of the Projektzo kit for VW Transporters. I also know a couple of Mk3 Golfs running around with them so they can be had here. Would make this thing look even tougher.
The bonnet is from VIS Racing. www.visracing.com I would rather the bonnet painted. Not a fan of the CF bonnet look that much. The yellow lights are simply a 3M protective tape. Not 100% on them myself so they will probably come off.
http://www.lamin-x.com/
lickmyleftone
01-05-11, 08:04 AM
delicious.
the buttonman
01-05-11, 12:19 PM
yellow lights would work better with some red and blue striping, or some big fuck off obnoxious "sponsor" type stickers up the sides.
i like the BBS, but in that size i looks a bit roller skate-ish. maybe a 15-16" wheel with more offset?
Ahh the joys of preparing a track car. So far I have removed 83.5 kg of interior including about 15 kg's of sound deadening. Goes away to get new diff (changing from 4.10 to 3.46), new clutch from Jim berry and cage in 2 weeks.
http://www.dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/E30%20M3/Stripped%201.jpg
http://www.dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/E30%20M3/Stripped%202.jpg
http://www.dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/E30%20M3/Stripped%203.jpg
http://www.dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/E30%20M3/Stripped%204.jpg
I still cant believe your tearing it up to make it a track car.
On one hand Im like fuck yeah
On the other its a bit sad to see such a nice car get torn up.
Driven once in 7 weeks. May as well drive it at the track every 7 weeks.
Yeah why not........
Go for it, you can always buy another one.
You using a heat gun to get rid of the sound deadening? How's that working out?
Great stuff. Hoping to get the chance to have a speed with you on the track once done.
Fuck yeah!
How far are you going with it?
You using a heat gun to get rid of the sound deadening? How's that working out?
Went much better than expected. Total time removing the deadening was ~ 3 hours.
Fuck yeah!
How far are you going with it?
Keeping it registered...........just. All up I reakon with the new bonnet, interior stripped out and a few other things to be removed such as remiahning AC and Heater set up inside under the dash) I will knock off about $100kg +/- a few. So it should weigh in at around 1050ish kg.
Have a new Sparco Pro 2000 seat and sabelt harness. New steering wheel. New 17" x 8" light weight rims. Have a new set of Brembo's for it but I cant get them until the end of the year when they will be brought back from USA for me.
http://www.dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/E30%20M3/Stripped%205.jpg
Greg Rust
15-05-11, 09:54 PM
Driven once in 7 weeks. May as well drive it at the track every 7 weeks.
I'm with you 100%
What are you doing with stuff like the rear seat and door panels? Full carbon fibre interior? :yup: :D
<---cop
15-05-11, 10:44 PM
What is the rating on the heat gun?
Full carbon fibre interior? :yup: :D
Yes
What is the rating on the heat gun?
No idea but it did the job. I borrowed it.
Sketchy
16-05-11, 07:46 AM
What are you doing with stuff like the rear seat and door panels? Full carbon fibre interior? :yup: :D
What he said. I'm on the look out for new door trims, carpet and other bits to tidy up my e30(s).
What he said. I'm on the look out for new door trims, carpet and other bits to tidy up my e30(s).
I've been holding these carbon fibre E30 door trims for you. :)
Phil my carpet was very ordinary. It went in the bin. I have the full leather interior though. Drivers seat seeams to have a loose bolt inside it somewhere that I will look at but other than that its all good. Would say about a 7/10 condition. Only real wear is on the drivers bolster. Once I get everything sorted I 'll get photos up.
bahaimus
16-05-11, 12:37 PM
Now I'm even more excited about this build! Track spec ftw. :yup:
BeverlyHillsCop
16-05-11, 12:41 PM
thx for the heads up on the film on the headlights DCR, was looking for the exact thing :)
Euroboost
16-05-11, 08:41 PM
Ironically now this is a track toy, the headlight film would sort of suit it!
Been playing around and designed a 80's style DTM dash cluster and yes I know the Innovate gauge is upside down.
http://www.dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/E30%20M3/stack%20cluster.jpg
Shitbreak
23-05-11, 08:07 PM
Something about STACK instruments that turn me majorly hard.
Something about STACK instruments that turn me majorly hard.
I concur.
bahaimus
23-05-11, 08:54 PM
Is this gonna be "registered" still?
bahaimus
23-05-11, 09:07 PM
I am still planning to keep mine registered mostly for the purpose of driving to and (hopefully) from the track. I don't currently have a vehicle capable of towing a car trailer and storing such a trailer would also be a cunt.
And I'd still like to drive it on the road occasionally....
redbucket
23-05-11, 09:11 PM
Something about Nico Rosberg that turn me majorly hard.
Fixed.
Fag.
The transformation from street car to track is slowly taking shape. Has been completely stripped and heads off tomorrow to get the full cage, new clutch from Jim Berry and new diff (3.46). Wheels back from the powdercoaters.
http://www.dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/E30%20M3/Apex%20Wheels%201.jpg
Ordered some semi's (V70A's) from Demon Tweeks to throw on them when they get here.
Hope to have it out for its first track outing late June.
willsy01
26-05-11, 03:25 PM
Wheels back from the powdercoaters.
April fools was last month dude...
The car is being sign written in my company names and logo's etc which are black and red.
willsy01
26-05-11, 03:51 PM
Ah, OK.........as you were :)
itsnotagsr
26-05-11, 05:40 PM
I'm going to cry when this starts getting dents and dings.
I'm going to cry when this starts getting dents and dings.
You are!!!!
It's going to look the goods....
I can see it now!
Wicked!
im_boostn
26-05-11, 06:32 PM
where do you get those stack gauges from?
geforce
26-05-11, 07:47 PM
. Wheels back from the powdercoaters.
just curious who did the powdercoating? and what sort of money $$$. Need my rims re-powdercoated as well
Centenary Powdercoating. All up was $280 and turn around was 8 days. Erin is the name of the woman that runs the place and was great to deal with. My rims were brand new.
14 Jijaws Street, Sumner Park.
Ph: 3279 4788
BoganDAVE
26-05-11, 08:15 PM
just curious who did the powdercoating? and what sort of money $$$. Need my rims re-powdercoated as well
Nik nak powder coating at caboolture is cheap as, if your up that way
LINCOLN
26-05-11, 08:54 PM
Wow this is going to look good with those wheels.
The car is being sign written in my company names and logo's etc which are black and red.
I was sure it would have been white and blue! :D
Wheels do look alright though, going to stand out that's for sure.
OvlovMan
26-05-11, 09:26 PM
Went much better than expected. Total time removing the deadening was ~ 3 hours.
Any of the deadening that doesn't want to budge or is near shit you don't want to put heat on go for dry ice. Works a treat. That shits just comes straight off when iced. Just tap it with a hammer/mallet and it pops off the body with no sticky residue.
http://dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/E30%20M3/Cage.jpg
http://dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/E30%20M3/Cage%202.jpg
http://dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/E30%20M3/Cage%203.jpg
Nice!.....But how are you going to go at your age getting into the drivers seat :D
Funniy thing is I tried it today and it took me a bit to get out. Will be worse with the Sparco. I suspect I will have to spend a bit of time working out the best way to get in and out.
So you'll be selling the leather interior to me then?
It sold a while ago fella. Keep up.
Cage looks good. What will this weigh in race trim?
The bend in the side intrusion bar doesnt appeal to me.... the rest looks good.
This is the best car on PF.
:)
The bend in the side intrusion bar doesnt appeal to me.... the rest looks good.
agreed. looks odd, can't work out how it would be a benefit for strength at all. especially without gusseting.
this makes more sense
http://www.austesting.com/car2.jpg
http://www.austesting.com/car3.jpg
and this makes even more sense again
http://www.mmsport.com.au/_images/mmsport_roll_cage.jpg?cache=20091109182356
BoganDAVE
02-06-11, 08:18 PM
The bend is so you can remove the intrusion, mine has the same bend
BMWTurbo
02-06-11, 08:51 PM
Looking great.
Do you have any foward/upward facing pics Dave? I'm trying to work out how to get a cross bar behind the dash...
I'll get some tomorrow.
In the first picture you can see it just above the steering wheel. It runs across the top of the steering column mount. As my car was originally LHD it has a steering column mount on both sides.
How does the bend help with removing the intrusion bars?
Just not the right way to do them sorry Dave.
The rest looks fine.
I guess the guy that did them has no idea then. Will let him know.
Sorry if I am miles off mate- show pics of the joint maybe?
PS You said this was a race car so maybe you can understand people being surprised at a removable intrusion bar yeah?
BoganDAVE
02-06-11, 10:21 PM
How does the bend help with removing the intrusion bars?
Just not the right way to do them sorry Dave.
The rest looks fine.
Stronger than most other ways to do removable intrusions.
You unbolt it, you slide it back, turn it and then it comes out. No bend = captive bar.
The other ways of doing removable intrusions rely only on the pin for location and anchoring, and look flimsy as all shit. Seems stronger to me.
Back to getting in and out of the thing. Making it such that the steering wheel is removable helps quite a lot. Not sure on road legalities though, ah the complications of a registered car.
I like the back half of the cage, not so much the belt mounts or the front half. But built with the intention to be registered I will let the front fly.
Having built my cage a few years ago I wish I had gone with the "FIA" bent door bars instead of the typical X.
I guess the guy that did them has no idea then. Will let him know.
just cause someone has lots of experience building roll cages and possibly lots of racing experience, it doesn't mean they know anything about the engineering design that goes into one or can do any of the calcs.
what are his qualifications? most cage builders have not much more than "on the job" experience. was it checked over by a registered mechanical/structural engineer?
you give me your plans, i'll put it into a FEA program and I betcha that is a massive weak spot.
BMWTurbo
03-06-11, 08:59 AM
you give me your plans, i'll put it into a FEA program and I betcha that is a massive weak spot.
What sort of file do you need to do this? I have a CAD file from when I did my basic cage :P
And the PF expert cage builders come out...
Looks great Dave.
I've made a few CAMS cages and looked at accident damage too.
That intrusion bar is danger item not a safety item. It is unecessarily close to the driver. Regardless of how it is attached, in a hard hit, a T bone or a side impact with a tree it could be pushed in or rotated inwards into the seat space and cause an injury then or in a secondary impact.
At the least it needs to be lined up with the main hoop and 'A' pillar so it is in tension when pushed in or, better, made bowed out slightly so it acts as a truss.
There are better designs than the 3 piece crossed X too; they have a weld at the critical junction. It was a failure at that joint the resulted in Gregg Hansford being impaled and given as the reason for death.
BMWTurbo
03-06-11, 09:51 AM
I've made a few CAMS cages and looked at accident damage too.
That intrusion bar is danger item not a safety item. It is unecessarily close to the driver. Regardless of how it is attached, in a hard hit, a T bone or a side impact with a tree it could be pushed in or rotated inwards into the seat space and cause an injury then or in a secondary impact.
At the least it needs to be lined up with the main hoop and 'A' pillar so it is in tension when pushed in or, better, made bowed out slightly so it acts as a truss.
There are better designs than the 3 piece crossed X too; they have a weld at the critical junction. It was a failure at that joint the resulted in Gregg Hansford being impaled and given as the reason for death.
Any good links to outline what you are saying above?
It sold a while ago fella. Keep up.
Fuck you Dave.
The bend is so you can remove the intrusion, mine has the same bend
Likewise.
psssi98
03-06-11, 10:09 AM
Dave will be getting in like this guy :
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gmzchvDfQ5o/TeMJsNkphpI/AAAAAAAANzQ/mExwrDiTugA/s1600/Getting_into_car.gif
And the PF expert cage builders come out..
hardly.
*cough* (http://www.camsmanual.com.au/pdf/10_gen_req/GQ11_Schedule_J_Q211.pdf)
Any good links to outline what you are saying above?
No convenient links sorry. Cage design for chassis rigidity and lightness is highly evolved and not incompatible with safety.
I think for some safety aspects empirical methods and common sense/experience come in to it.
Have a look at a Carrera Cup/GT3 cage pic, particularly the driver's side; that gives an idea of their collective opinion.
Their design is not for ease of access though.
Having strong structure between the doors is helpful in preventing sill shortening chassis write offs in a light frontal- the damage, while a bit heavier forward can be confined to the front bay.
Taken a few steps further, WRC cages are now I believe bowed out and panelled from the top diagonal brace to the sill to form a shear plane and a wide flat 'soft' area.
leaving out concerns about its strength or CAMS compliance, that intrusion bar looks awful close to the seat. I'd be worried about the intrustion bar getting in the way of your elbows...
It sold a while ago fella. Keep up.
This is killing me. How much did you get for the interior?
It was bought by someone on here so I'll let him tell ya.
Fuck him, whoever the cunt is.
PS it was never advertised was it?
No
He used his initiative and contacted me.
I did the same. Just too late obviously.
I love leather interiors. Especially really cheap, really rare ones. :D
bahaimus
07-06-11, 01:21 PM
You haven't been quoted the delivery cost yet........
I love leather interiors. Especially really cheap, really rare ones. :D
I look forward to seeing pics of it sitting under 3" of dust in your "long forgotten project car corner".
You need bigger wheelie bins and more plasma cutters in QLD.
I know what the delivery cost is, it's sitting on my bench at home.
I look forward to seeing pics of it sitting under 3" of dust in your "long forgotten project car corner".
You need bigger wheelie bins and more plasma cutters in QLD.
You are a big black pot.
You are a big black pot.
I am currently eating spaghetti, so yes, I am a vessel for pasta ATM, kettle :)
bahaimus
07-06-11, 01:40 PM
I know what the delivery cost is, it's sitting on my bench at home.
I forgot to carry the one when I did my calculation..........
When Cals finished with the Swift dood....it sounds like JZK25 is gunna get "Fucked in the Face" ! :D
Win.
http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/attachments/aus-classifieds/37037d1258703611-bmw-e30-325is-leather-lsd-manual-xenons-7-dvd-sunroof-img_2066.jpg
I'll have my drivers seat back tomorrow afternoon so you can collect whenever.
damn that interior is nice....why DCR? why?
bahaimus
07-06-11, 08:14 PM
Cool. Is it just the seats and the door cards?
2 x front seats
2 piece rear seat
door cards and handles etc.
pics here http://www.dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/M3%20Interior/
Ha ! probably worth a minta!
bahaimus
08-06-11, 07:57 AM
2 x front seats
2 piece rear seat
door cards and handles etc.
pics here http://www.dcr62.net/Car%20Pics/M3%20Interior/
Cool, that should all fit in to the back of the urabus.
I can't wait to get this vq30dette30 with leather interior for cheaps.
hurry up Al.!
edit - make sure it's got Air con... :lol:
Ha ! probably worth a minta!
Last one I saw was cloth and it was $1000.
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5880/1002083h.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/27/1002083h.jpg/)
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2250/1002081u.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/1002081u.jpg/)
http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/5793/1002082v.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/860/1002082v.jpg/)
I can't wait to get this vq30dette30 with leather interior for cheaps.
hurry up Al.!
edit - make sure it's got Air con... :lol:
Give me 50% deposit and I will monogram your name on the inlet manifold.
Car is all but done. New clutch and diff combo is fun...... :) Pulls much better through all 4 gears now. Havent needed 5th yet...:) Just tidying up the inside a bit. Fitted the new CF door cards and took it out to the RACQ Motorfest. Fist track meet is 2nd September at Lakeside so should be a great day.......
psssi98
21-07-11, 07:13 PM
FUCK!
Awesome Dave - PF Lakeside meet up and wank on to DCR's bonnet! :lol:
Nice work, hope it all goes well at the track.
Looks awesome. Great work!
Looking good.
What is diverse fmx?
LINCOLN
21-07-11, 08:54 PM
Perfect. Love the red wheels.
Looking good.
What is diverse fmx?
Dunno but I want some!
Looking good.
What is diverse fmx?
Diverse FMX (http://www.diversefmx.com/index.php)
Facility management, I'm guessing who DCR is involved with.
Looks very tidy.
Damn, it looks just like a race car!
Door card looks sexy, but how are you going to wind the windows down?
Yes Diverse FMX is my business.
Freestyle motocross- nice!
Stands for Free Motorsport eXpenses
Looks good Dave, missing the leather interior much? ;)
First day back at the track after 6 yrs absence. Car went so well.
http://www.dcr62.net/Track%20Day%20Pics/Lakeside%20020911-5.jpg
Great to see it on track, well done.
TImes?
Best was a 1.08:01. I was a tad nervous as you may expect. Just signed up to do the Paul Stokell day on the 13th (Lakeside) so hopefully he can get a fair bit more out of me.
http://drivingevents.com.au/track-and-training-days/product/78-full-day-lakeside-raceway-track-a-training
Looks great.
Can you lower it more that it isn't a roadie?
adamRSLC
10-09-11, 09:38 PM
FUCK!
Exactly my first reaction !
Acads
Muz I dont think it will go any lower with really massaging the guards. I am looking at maybe getting some wider guards. There is a company in .de that make them 1" wider.
More shots.
http://www.dcr62.net/Track%20Day%20Pics/Lakeside%20020911-1.jpg
http://www.dcr62.net/Track%20Day%20Pics/Lakeside%20020911-2.jpg
http://www.dcr62.net/Track%20Day%20Pics/Lakeside%20020911-3.jpg
http://www.dcr62.net/Track%20Day%20Pics/Lakeside%20020911-5.jpg
lickmyleftone
11-09-11, 12:46 PM
Fucking beautiful!!!!!!
Really good mate. Must be good to get out and amongst it.
Mr_Meaner
11-09-11, 02:01 PM
In case you don't already have one:
t-shirt (http://www.redbubble.com/people/fone337/t-shirts/3508931-bmw-e30-m3)
Rui azavedo used to make wider guards too
looks tos it about the same height as the group a cars - does lowering these send the geometry to hell?
The own business sponsorship signage looks great..better than some current state race cars etc
Dave got a link to these guards? I had a quick look with no luck. Price dependent might be interested and might save on postage a bit?
Good to see the M3 getting out on the track now and used as it was intended :)
Best was a 1.08:01. I was a tad nervous as you may expect. Just signed up to do the Paul Stokell day on the 13th (Lakeside) so hopefully he can get a fair bit more out of me.
http://drivingevents.com.au/track-and-training-days/product/78-full-day-lakeside-raceway-track-a-training
Ah cool, about the same times I was doing in the Sierra. Pauls guys are pretty good, I'm sure the times will come down a fair bit once you get more seat time.
So much to learn.......
O86msIB-AYI
morerevsm3
14-09-11, 07:47 PM
The own business sponsorship signage looks great..better than some current state race cars etc
heeey....my car resembles that remark...
New exhaust. Weighs about 1/2 the weight of the old one. No longer a street car. Going to aim at running it in Sports Sedans next year. Gets some more fasts with Matt Spry on monday. This could either be the best or worst decision I have made for a while.
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if it means you post more videos then it's probably a good thing. how much boost you dialling in?
Not sure on how much more boost yet. Will see how it goes on the dyno first.
When you say sports sedans, I assume you are talking about that run what ya brung class at the Top Gear meetings locally?
willsy01
28-06-12, 04:43 PM
It's running a little lean....
When you say sports sedans, I assume you are talking about that run what ya brung class at the Top Gear meetings locally?
No I mean sports sedans. 3D
This was an awesome street car :p
Hope it doesnt get mangled on the track. Sounds nice, how hard was it to fit the 12A bridgeport in
No I mean sports sedans. 3D
National Sports sedans! As in this?
http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.6236675.1088/flat,550x550,075,f.jpg
Not sure on how much more boost yet. Will see how it goes on the dyno first.
Fair call, I would expect it will receive the boost well. This has a GT30 on it doesn't it? 76 with about a 0.8 rear?
National Sports sedans! As in this?
http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.6236675.1088/flat,550x550,075,f.jpg
He never said he expected to be competitive :)
Does QLD run Marque Sports or invited class ?
Marque Sports = Prod Sports. Same same. E30 is a sedan, not a sports car.
Cal, yes. Same as Sam Collins Silvia and the other Floor pan ones. I dont expect to be up the front somehow.
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Note Pierz Harrex in the AVCS Commodore.
Went for a retune this morning with Matt Spry. 12psi.
58201
bahaimus
02-07-12, 03:03 PM
Why not more boost after all this time?
When I get better at driving it.
bahaimus
02-07-12, 03:23 PM
Soft.
yeh im going with smart.
plenty of poke for that little car.
any clues on the white / blue esky @ 2:10, got some mumbo!
it's worth noting that 300hp in a stripped out E30 is fairly lively, but more power is definitely required :)
That hp graph line based on the torque figures presented is badly short.
From the torque figures the engine is making a lot more power, or a lot less torque, than is being shown.
HP = Torque in lb/ft x RPM divided by 5252.
From the graph; at 6000 rpm we have 300 lb/ft
So: 300 x 6000 = 1800000 divided by 5252 = 342.7.
At 6500 309 hp, at 5000 rpm it is making 323 hp from the same math.
If the torque is reading high, at 6000 rpm 290 hp requires only 253 lb/ft, so out there as well
The torque and horsepower lines must always cross at 5252 rpm on a real dyno graph
Whoever Matt Spry is he needs to take a kindergarten course in the connection between torque and horsepower.
bahaimus
02-07-12, 06:21 PM
Or it could be reading rear wheel horsepower and rear wheel tractive effort ;)
It is doing this^
Normally doesnt show Torque.
Justengt4
02-07-12, 08:08 PM
Or it could be reading rear wheel horsepower and rear wheel tractive effort ;)
RWHP and flywheel torque (says so :P).... eureka!
bahaimus
02-07-12, 09:04 PM
LOL, couldn't see that on my phone. :O
Went for a retune this morning with Matt Spry. 12psi.
58201
Starting to look good - but you either need to run 20psi to take advantage of that turbo, or downsize it.
You have the penalty of a 5000rpm+ powerband from a big turbo, but power made easily by a turbo half the size.
You could have that same ~290rwhp 1000rpm+++ earlier and still on a painfully safe tune.
This thing needs some CF bumpers.
Luckily for you, DCR, they're currently in the works (including a full CF E30 M3 chassis, apparently).
You could have that same ~290rwhp 1000rpm+++ earlier and still on a painfully safe tune.
For circuit racing, you want this.
The bigger turbo will be a compromise for now, but it sounds like he's planning on upping the boost when he gets a bit more confident in driving it at the limit, nothing wrong with that.
Thats exactly what I came here to post. I want to run in sports sedans later next year so I will need a lot more power/boost to be even remotely non competitive. If I wind up the bost now I spend more time extracting it from the guard rails than on the track.
The plan is to greatly improve my abilty before the cars......but thats just the way I like to do things. Silly I know.
morerevsm3
03-07-12, 10:57 AM
sensible has no place in motorsport:w:
RNS-11Z
03-07-12, 11:50 AM
Lol @ you thinking Matty spry has no idea.
Nice power, it will rip!!!
The plan is to greatly improve my abilty before the cars......but thats just the way I like to do things. Silly I know.
In my observation, the most successful cars/drivers are built this way. Get it to handle and stop and add power later. Hell, you really should have done it without the turbo at all!
bahaimus
03-07-12, 02:38 PM
In my observation, the most successful cars/drivers are built this way. Get it to handle and stop and add power later. Hell, you really should have done it without the turbo at all!
I reckon I'm fucked then LOL!
morerevsm3
03-07-12, 02:56 PM
In my observation, the most successful cars/drivers are built this way. Get it to handle and stop and add power later. Hell, you really should have done it without the turbo at all!
also removes a lot of pressure if it is well known car is not fast enough to be at the front, everyones expectations are a little more realistic, if you buy a championship winning car, a lot of people think a newby driver should be quick too, it also allows you to learn racecraft at a more sedate pace
It didnt go back to Matty for my boost. It went back because it has a new exhaust now with no Cats etc. The bi-product was we added 2 more psi for the sake of it.
In my observation, the most successful cars/drivers are built this way. Get it to handle and stop and add power later.
It's the way I've always done my track cars.
It didnt go back to Matty for my boost. It went back because it has a new exhaust now with no Cats etc. The bi-product was we added 2 more psi for the sake of it.
I'm glad the rollers are free from oil!
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