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http://www.onthenet.com.au/~ccroft/929/929.jpg
Hey all, okay, the 929, it is a 1986 model, bought new from Mazda by my grandma originally. Then my granded got it and then my dad, now me.
I was silly enough to think it would one day be an amazing performance car and have since then continued (very slowly) to make it more "performancey"
http://www.onthenet.com.au/~ccroft/929.html
I haven't finished writing about everything in the car, I guess I will jsut give you a run down of what has been done to it in simple terms:
Engine:
Stock series 5 rx7 13b turbo and 5 speed manual gearboc (car was a 4 cylinder auto originally)
It has an interncooler and an alloy radiator to
Haltech E6k seems to work fine.
Interior:
not much, two sparco seats that originalyl came out of the Coffin rx2 and a autotechnica steering wheel and some speco gauges. If you are buying gauges, the speco ones are fine in daylight, their lighting at night is carp though.
Other bits: new fuel system and bigger brakes on custom hubs and caliper brackets etc... 300mm supra front discs on the front, series r5 rx7 front calipers on the front, the rear has rx7 series 5 front discs and series 5 rear calipers. I had teh front discs cryo treated too, but haven;t had the chance to try them out either. Tokico illumino suspension with adjustable height cooil overs on the front and some adjustable height ones on the rear. It has a 3 inch exhaust with cat and resonator and a big muffler (8in diameter and nearly 3 feet long) so the car is pretty quiet.
It has actually run, it has done a low 14 at over a hundred mph, was a little fun on the skidpan, but it would have been anyway with the 25 yr old tyre I had on the back.
Gunna:
this is where I am bragging about what will happen:
I have 1000cc injectors on the shelf ready to go in as well as picking up my tial 44mm wastegate either tomorrow or tuesday. Also Mr Turbo is rebuilding the t04b I have for it, it will get a hks 66mm front wheel and .70 front cover, dual bearing billet core and a general rebuild and clean up which I should be able to pick up tomorrow as well (tomorrow being monday the 4/12/06). Also have the exhaust manifold being organised for once it the car comes out of the brake shop, it is also in the brake shop a tht emoment, getting all the calipers and master cylinder rebuilt and the braided brake lines made up. Pads will be ds2500 on the front by ferodo and ebc greens on the rear. Would like to put a cage in it to, have some harnesses there too, but they are second hand and ar elikely out of date now anyway (don't harneses have a 5 yr life or something?)
Differential:
Okay, no one really knows anything about them, so with the brakes, I had to get most adapters custom made as no one could tell us what to do, thanks to Adrian brook for helping with that. For the Diff, that is a special case as well. We got a hilux diff given to us a while back, this may be a replacement...sounds pretty silly though as the car currently has independant rear suspenion, but I am worried about strength and reliability in the future....
The car was sort of worked on by me, little by little, but mostly by mates and my brother, this week is the first time it has been in a workshop for work, so finally work will get done on it quickly!!!! I am not sure if I can remember how many people have had a physical hand in helping with it, as well as the number of people I have talked to for help as well....lots! So i have to take lots of people for joy rides when it gets finished....one day.
I hope to take it to a few track days in the near future and try and keep up with my brothers PRB clubman....hopeful I know!
ViNcEnXo
03-12-06, 12:11 PM
Classic quote
Random.... Shit thats quick, whats in it?
Chad.... It's running Optimax!
hehehe, you were there that night?
Classic quote
Random.... Shit thats quick, whats in it?
Chad.... It's running Optimax!
:lol: I will have to use that one!
Cool sleeper BTW :)
:lol: I will have to use that one!
Cool sleeper BTW :)
Thanks for the compliment.
There was a little more to what was said, the "its got optimax" quote was the final part of me spinning some tale of how the car was almost "stock" problem was, leigh (shifty), dale (10 sec rx7), jon (jon_200sz,psi999) and a few others cracked up before I could finish saying what I wanted to say...
The poor kid was showing off how fast his new MR2 was to his girlfriend at the time too.
The poor kid was showing off how fast his new MR2 was to his girlfriend at the time too.
:lol: :owned:
New 44mm tial wastegate arrived today.
Hopefully the turbo will be finished in the next day or two!
10sec rx7
05-12-06, 09:51 AM
Thanks for the compliment.
There was a little more to what was said, the "its got optimax" quote was the final part of me spinning some tale of how the car was almost "stock" problem was, leigh (shifty), dale (10 sec rx7), jon (jon_200sz,psi999) and a few others cracked up before I could finish saying what I wanted to say...
The poor kid was showing off how fast his new MR2 was to his girlfriend at the time too.
fuck i remember that!! LOL
is that how long it has been since this thing has been on the road?? LOL
So you going to race in any AASA rounds next year? :yup:
Cal.
with my abilities as a driver, it will be more point, shoot, brake, dawdle around corner, point and shoot again!
But yes, that is the general aim Mr Cal!!!
Don't over estimate the general ability level out there. :p
Cal.
Racing in any ANDRA events next year Chad?.... might be able to update your avatar then ;)
Don't over estimate the general ability level out there. :p
Cal.
I think you saw my abilites enough on GT Legends to know I will suck!!! hehehe
Racing in any ANDRA events next year Chad?.... might be able to update your avatar then ;)
One day, will have a grudge match against my brother or something, if I ever get mine running anyway
fuck i remember that!! LOL
is that how long it has been since this thing has been on the road?? LOL
No, it has been on the road since then, a couple of times, but I keep finding things I want to Improve*
*May mean I have to fix things I stuffed up int he first place ie: dodgy wiring or a proper tail shaft...
It's running Optimax!
LOL I remember this story, classic stuff. :)
Reminds me of an early victory in the poopra.
Just-chopped R33 driver: That thing's pretty quick, what have you done to it?
Shifty (riding shotgun): It's got extractors. :cool:
Classic quote
Random.... Shit thats quick, whats in it?
Chad.... It's running Optimax!
That's my line! :p
I love a good sleeper. Good work! Miss the Crown sometimes.
That's my line! :p
I love a good sleeper. Good work! Miss the Crown sometimes.
I may have borrowed it from you, either way, it seemed like the right thing to say at the time...
LOL I remember this story, classic stuff. :)
Reminds me of an early victory in the poopra.
Just-chopped R33 driver: That thing's pretty quick, what have you done to it?
Shifty (riding shotgun): It's got extractors. :cool:
I believe shifty was my scrub at the time as welll when optimax line was said! Shifty gets around.
ViNcEnXo
06-12-06, 09:10 AM
Yeah I was there that night Chad.
I used to use the line in the mini when knocking off WRXs, GTRs, HSV's etc...
Whats in that? It's got the Cooper S engine.
Mr Turbo Billet centre special:
was a t04b before, now has a 66mm front wheel and 70 front cover, p trim exhaust and the dual bearing billet centre as you can see from the photo... wastegate is a tial 44mm
http://www.onthenet.com.au/~ccroft/turbo.jpg
http://www.onthenet.com.au/~ccroft/turbogate.jpg
Stix Zadinia
23-12-06, 12:34 PM
have you installed it yet?
have you installed it yet?
no way, it wil be a desktop paper holder thing for years yet!
http://www.onthenet.com.au/~ccroft/929/newturbo.jpg
Thanks for the compliment.
There was a little more to what was said, the "its got optimax" quote was the final part of me spinning some tale of how the car was almost "stock" problem was, leigh (shifty), dale (10 sec rx7), jon (jon_200sz,psi999) and a few others cracked up before I could finish saying what I wanted to say...
The poor kid was showing off how fast his new MR2 was to his girlfriend at the time too.
I'm pretty sure it was shifty that gave it away first :)
I'm pretty sure it was shifty that gave it away first :)
Yeah, wouldn't surprise me! Hey Coffin, your old seats are still good, the harnesses are on a shelf in the garage though, they haven't been put in yet.
Not much is hooked up to the turbo yet, it needs a fair bit of work at the moment (not just the turbo, but the whole car). Sort of moving house this weekend too.
How many other people have been for a ride in it that read these forums, you even drove it one night at the ice cream shop didn't you coffin?
I love sleepers!
This ones awesome :)
how much does a 929 weigh?
still too much, was 1280kgs originally, have no sound deadening any more, no seats just sparco fixed backs, and no carpet, and a lot of the old loom is gone, the cabin temperature fluctuation system has had some renovations as well. It may be a little lighter, but it has bigger alloys on it now (16"s instead of 14"S), bigger breaks, intercooler, much much bigger radiator, bigger tailshaft, although it is on piece instead of two now. Be nice to think it was close to 1200kgs though, not not sure at the moment.
There is a possibility that someone has been doing some work on the car, hopefully it may hit a dyno in the next couple of months.
Lobster
29-11-08, 08:54 PM
Well it's been almost 2 years... something bloody well should be done by now!
10sec rx7
30-11-08, 05:56 PM
fuck this car brings back memories...
I must see this. PF XMAS partay skids or die.
Sketchy
04-12-08, 02:35 PM
Jesus Chad you've been fucking around with this thing for as long as I've had the e30. Looks like you got further with it though :(
Just a little update for everyone, the 929 made some zoom zoom noises tonight. Still a lot of little things for me to fix up before it goes on the dyno (Thanks Chad).
Turbo 351
29-04-09, 07:37 PM
:eek:
I thought this was called off??
:)
Crash Dummy
29-04-09, 11:50 PM
Good to here 2LVLT
I'm looking forward to seeing the results.
I should have burned it a long time ago stetchy, my brother is nice enough to do work on it while i'm overseas though. I think he wants to do some skids in it....
Crash Dummy
30-04-09, 12:25 AM
This thread may be of interest at a later date :D
http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67241082
:eek:
I thought this was called off??
:)
Just because I haven;t done 73 different project cars in less than 8 years doesn't mean it is dead in the water...it just looks like it
IT LIVES!!!!!!
I took it for a drive around the block tonight. yay!
Everything still works too! headlights, indicators, central locking the hole lot!
Sorry, i'm just excited :)
blackbart
05-05-09, 06:27 PM
Where's the skid pics?:p
So the 929 amazingly enough, still works. We got it started a week or so back and realised we had the injectors installed backwards, so it was running on one rotor (well thats what us elitist's think anyway). Swapped the injectors and then never got it started again. After many minutes of cranking, high load on batteries and lots of reading websites (we can't manage to connect the haltech to the laptop either, we need an old laptop that still has a serial port. No, we bought a USB-Serial adaptor and that fixed nothing) and a week or so later Ben managed to figure out that the car was just flooded.
Buick v6 to the rescue....well sort of. About 10 years ago the family had a boat with two buick v6 petrol engines in it, not sure if they were they same as that of the beloved commodore, but not unlikely. Anyway, Ben used to service the engines (he does work on boats from time to time) and we still had a brand new box of ten spark plugs lieing around for these engines, we found them this week. So two of those went into the leading positions on the old 13b and the car started almost straight away!
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The gears still work, some low speed testing on top of the car stands. For the police reading this, it was done on private property, no speed limits were broken here.
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Also had another throttle body that we removed the extra butterflies from and cleaned up the insides. Manged to destroy the thread for the idle speed screw almost straight away, that sucked. We also have a leak from one injector still, Might need new O-Rings. Where is the best place to buy these from?
Great to see you working on it again.
Lucky for me Ben is keener than I am, he has put in a lot more work than me. At least I am a little excited again about getting it back onto the road.
mong00se
20-06-12, 10:45 PM
I remember this many years ago and the plans back then :D
Sketchy
21-06-12, 12:16 AM
Resurection. Awesome :)
Kiahatsiu
21-06-12, 10:05 AM
Still on optimax?
10sec rx7
21-06-12, 10:36 AM
about time chad boy
Babalouie
21-06-12, 10:47 AM
Nice one....we need more rotor luxobarges on the roads :D
Haha, I hope my prodding each year on your birthday has had something to do with getting it back on the road haha.
Mong00se: what did I say about the car way back when? I hope it's close to something I was talking about. Also, what's your real name???
Sketchy: I guess so, it seems your BMW is now a long way ahead of this thing. Times have changed.
Kiahatsiu: not sure, I put some 98 octane stuff in it recently. Though there is a servo nearby that has some 100 octane,
anyone know much about this stuff??.
10secrx7: I know, hope to be able to drive it with a bit of gusto one day soon. Do you miss having a rotary yet???
Babalouie: thanks mate but there isn't much Luxo left in this thing now.
Shifty: maybe, many have prodded me about it. What toy car have you got at the moment?
Whoah, Is this still for sale?
Good to see you are still playing with it.
mong00se
22-06-12, 12:46 AM
lol it's Camron :P
I vagely remember you talking about putting a rotor in it way back in the 90's :P
Oh, of course. Now I remember your mirc nickname!
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww325/2lvlt/Mazda/d959b95d.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww325/2lvlt/Mazda/d5513e57.jpg
Its alive. Sort of. It still needs a tune but it left the garage for the first time in about four years! Sorry about the Edo spec pics. Still plenty of bits and pieces to do buy at least it runs :D
Kiahatsiu
11-07-12, 09:47 PM
Proof that it runs, you drove it to Edo's for some pics!
Does anyone have an mx5 diff I can look at for comparison?
Preferably in south east qld? I have a thought that the centers may be interchangeable so then I would have access to an LSD.
Anyone a Mazda diff expert?
Word on the street is the MX5 1.8ltr diff is the same rear internals as the 7" Rx7 diff if that helps at all? The mounts, pinion and snout are the main differences between the two diffs.
I've got a 2 way Kaaz in mine which is rather nifty!! I saw some website selling decent centers to suit for around $550 somewhere!
nine2nine
17-07-12, 07:41 AM
The mazda centres all seem fairly interchangable. I put a FD torsen centre in my HC 929.
Anyone a Mazda diff expert?
spac.
Thanks for the suggestions everyone.
SV_I - Have pm'd spac a week or two back, no response yet? Does he still frequent the forums?
Anyone know anyone with an MX5 that is pulled apart or has parts for sale in South East QLD?
Go and see Richard Larsen at MX5 Plus?
Well I have a spare set of alloys for the 929 around the back of the house. I had been thinking for about painting them or getting them powder coated to give the Mazda a sort of different look, I think I am aiming for 80's racer. Could be just making it ricey though, the 929 was never known to be a pretty car.
Getting them painted by a wheel and tyre shop was going to cost $150 a wheel. Wasn't going pay that...ever, especially since I only paid about $200 for the set of 4 wheels anyway. So I gave them all a quick tub with a sponge and some car wash and was left with something like this:
http://performanceforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58587&d=1342867585
The Centre Caps also needed painting as they started out looking a bit shabby... (Sadly the "We produced with spartan air", is no longer to be seen)
http://performanceforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58590&d=1342867640
So after washing everything i tried sanding the wheels with 320 grit paper, that lasted less than 10 seconds and I went on to grab some 240 grit paper...this was much better and what I stuck with the whole way through for all four wheels. Ben (The brother) also hit the edges of the wheels with a file as someone had treated these wheels to a little bit of gutter love in a previous life. After sanding the wheels got washed down with some acetone, they still didn't look amazing at this point, I wasn't too worried though. i don't think that the 929 will be a show car anytime in its future.
http://performanceforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58586&d=1342867585
After sanding them slightly thoroughly (I am lazy) the wheels got hit with a grey primer. I wanted the inside and outside of the wheel painted too so the whole wheel was primed except for the (inners???, the part covered by the tire?).
http://performanceforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58588&d=1342867585
So after the Primer was allowed to dry for an hour I went on to try painting one wheel (well Ben painted the first one). You can see it on the front left of this photo. I had chosen a flat white, there was an option of a gloss white but I wasn't really sure which one to pick. So after one coat, you can get an idea of what the flat white will look like. The other three in the background were painted about an hour or so later after I decided I was happy enough with the initial wheel. (You will note the rest of the centre caps have had a prime and paint too). As you can see they are still shiny from being wet they look a little glossy, I am thinking and Ben is definitely thinking that we should do the final coat/coats in the gloss white as it will look better on the car.
Who has white wheels and are they a gloss of a flat or a matte finish?
http://performanceforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58589&d=1342867640
What is everyones thoughts on how the wheels should look? Should I stick with the flat or go on to the gloss? I have to do the second coat tomorrow as it is 16 hours between each coat of the enamel (I bought some kind of Metal paint that comes in a a rattle pack).
Thanks for any thoughts or ideas that will come back to me on this.
Sorry, hopefully the links and pictures are all fixed now.
BigJonWB
21-07-12, 11:17 PM
Gloss, I reckon.
Tripper
21-07-12, 11:25 PM
Primer grey looks sweet. I used to have one of these 929's except mine was a 84 luxo spec 2 door. was a great sleeper. I put a 20bt in it but it didnt last so i put a built 13bt in it.
Turbo 351
22-07-12, 08:29 AM
Will gloss be easier to clean brake dust off?
Primer grey looks sweet. I used to have one of these 929's except mine was a 84 luxo spec 2 door. was a great sleeper. I put a 20bt in it but it didnt last so i put a built 13bt in it.
I used to have one with a 13bt in it.. Miss that thing. Fun times.
Gloss, but do the centercaps in black. Also think that gloss would make cleaning the brake dust off easier, and being white, you'll be cleaning them a lot.
Impressed: so a couple of you have had rotary powered HB's in the past? They aren't as rare as I originally thought. Is there anyone on the forums that still has one? I need a rear seat for a 4 door hardtop.
Not bad: Thanks for the comments, brake dust being able to be wiped off, that is a point my brother also made. So I also went to the Gloss after a lot of suggestions. Thanks. I am happy with how the wheels have turned out now. Excuse the mobile phone quality and also notice the blue colouring is the fact that I put an old fish tank bulb in the fluro fittings in the garage, so the wheels aren't really a purpley/blue colour. They have come out alright though I reckon.
http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58603&stc=1&d=1343018851
http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58604&stc=1&d=1343018851
Stix Zadinia
23-07-12, 03:47 PM
i can't beleive you covered 'we produced with spartan air' that was one of the best bits!
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