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Typhoon
13-12-10, 09:54 AM
I'm looking for some M10 x 1.0 x 60mm grade 10.9 socket head bolts, none of the places I've been to or contacted online keep them in the thread pitch I need.
Anyone got a good source?

Fondles
13-12-10, 10:08 AM
Specialty Fasteners can't help ??

lysdexia
13-12-10, 10:12 AM
that's a nasty size, you would have to have them custom made.

tinkerbell
13-12-10, 10:31 AM
maybe - http://www.mitchellsengineerssupplies.com.au/

Fondles
13-12-10, 10:31 AM
that's a nasty size, you would have to have them custom made.

Nah doesnt need to be custom made, its an M10 fine bolt, I purchased some in the UK a few months back as I needed a couple.

Typhoon
13-12-10, 10:37 AM
Specialty Fasteners can't help ??

Tried Specialty, they only had hex head in the size I need. They're Alfa CV joint flange bolts, need a small head for clearance.
It's the 1.0mm thread pitch that's the killer.

Nah doesnt need to be custom made, its an M10 fine bolt, I purchased some in the UK a few months back as I needed a couple.
Source? I've bought stainlless bolts from the UK before, the Brits have always been good with engineering stuff.

lysdexia
13-12-10, 10:45 AM
Nah doesnt need to be custom made, its an M10 fine bolt, I purchased some in the UK a few months back as I needed a couple.

it's M10 extra fine, M10 fine is 1.25mm. The fact that it needs to be a socket head is what makes it hard though (i have a very small range of 10x1.0 hex head bolts here, they certainly exist). I have had a quick look this morning, none of my suppliers do one in a socket head though.

Greg Rust
13-12-10, 10:56 AM
Try WestTrac for CAT bolts as they are a large stockist of 12point fasteners

Momus
13-12-10, 11:54 AM
Yep 10 x 1.0 is a nigger size and you won't get them except second hand or possibly, new genuine.
When I played with Alfas I repaired the 8 x 1.0 shcs on CV drive flanges with 3/8 unf and the 10 x 1.0 with 7/16 unf shcs.

The CV joint bodies drill OK, only the races are hard, and the drive flanges tap easily enough; the std CV bolt hole is a good guide for the 10.00 mm tap drill size if you are doing them on the car.

Fondles
13-12-10, 01:58 PM
it's M10 extra fine, M10 fine is 1.25mm. The fact that it needs to be a socket head is what makes it hard though (i have a very small range of 10x1.0 hex head bolts here, they certainly exist). I have had a quick look this morning, none of my suppliers do one in a socket head though.

yeah my bad, I skipped the part about socket head.

ahabthearab
18-12-10, 04:36 AM
Eastland trade supplies


Paging Muz

Typhoon
20-12-10, 07:03 PM
I found some.
After calling everywhere all over Australia and being told "too hard" and firing off emails all over the world, this guy helped me out:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290514315035&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
He has a few left, so it could be a good idea to buy some for your stockpiles if you're a sad cunt and like Alfa transaxles.

Nathan Tinkler
20-12-10, 07:19 PM
M10f 1.00 x 60 is not listed by any normal supplier in Australia.

I have some 40 long but that isn't much use. I think you did well to track them down.

Typhoon
20-12-10, 09:32 PM
M10f 1.00 x 60 is not listed by any normal supplier in Australia.

I have some 40 long but that isn't much use. I think you did well to track them down.

I was almost resigned to drilling oversize and going UNF as Momus suggested above. If I hadn't found them by new year I was going to do that.
The problem with these bloody bolts is the heads are usually partially flogged out by some brainiac that's had a go at them with plain Allen keys before, instead of spending $10 on a proper 1/2" drive socket.
Needless to say, I bought some spares.

Shifty
21-12-10, 07:57 AM
It's amazing how hard some stuff is to get, particularly metric stuff. Even going to specialty bolt shops they look at you like you're an idiot.

Nathan Tinkler
21-12-10, 08:04 AM
If they used a commercially available size then things would be easier.

I think that using a one off bolt is to get you to pay through the nose for oem..

lysdexia
21-12-10, 03:36 PM
True that. If I had a dollar for the number of people that i flat out can not help on a daily basis, i'd be a rich man.

Nathan Tinkler
21-12-10, 06:37 PM
Where do you work dyslexia?

Typhoon
21-12-10, 06:39 PM
If they used a commercially available size then things would be easier.

I think that using a one off bolt is to get you to pay through the nose for oem..

I think it was probably more along the lines of "O.K, now, how do we attach a CV joint to this bloody transaxle?!?!? If they'd used a UV joint it would've meant shorter bolts, even if they'd used a 1.25 pitch thread it would have been no issue, but I bet some engineer said something about extra clamping power and strength and specified the 1.0mm thread pitch.
Hell, today we'd just have a splined CV joint stub and the joint would just drop into teh side of the differential and be held with a c clip.....
Who knows, maybe 1.0mm pitch was more readily available, 25 years ago? I don't quite think the Italians had the concept of built in dealer dependence back then, they did well enough with manufacturing defects!