Speedflow Products 2011 catalogue

[SPEEDFLOW]

Sorry no advertising on this site - Admin.

[Mr Ed]

Hi SPEEDFLOW. Youre stuff is good but why is it so much more expensive here than it is in the USA? Why should I buy through you instead of over the internet, which I can also afford?

[scrad]

Hi SPEEDFLOW. Youre stuff is good but why is it so much more expensive here than it is in the USA? Why should I buy through you instead of over the internet, which I can also afford?

your

[psssi98]

Dear speedflow I am sure with the prices you charge you can afford to pay for ads or contribute to the forum/forum owner financially.

To summarise, please go fuck yourself with an arse dildo made from your glorious fittings. Given the large range in your catalogue no doubt you can find something you'll enjoy.

[Rz]

-20 ?

[greenhj]

dear speedflow,

Why the fuck do i have to pay extra for fittings in ONE colour, when its obviously less material handling and the same labour cost to make them in fucking black instead of copycat red/blue.

also, when will you make a cheap arse or braided hose thats compatible with crap unleaded instead of stinking up my car with odour leeching through the hose or paying for million dollar teflon lined.

[Rz]

.

[sssgtr]

anplumbing.com FTMFW

cos we ain't messin with no maggots

[SPEEDFLOW]

Hi Mr Ed,

Speedflow products is made to high standard and quality and is made in australia.
All our products are from high quality aluminium or steel in which we have developed processes to ensure we continue processing a high quality product.
We use hard coat anodising, most companies only use light coat anodising.
Other brands are not! most brands are made in china with forgings.

Aaron Prins

[sssgtr]

hi aaron

your products are too expensive compared to the USA.

HTH

[Mr Ed]

Thanks for your reply Aaron, but Im talking about the same brand name here. I was looking in a JEGS catalogue on the weekend, they sell -6 fittings for $6.99 and from memory -8 for $8.99.

How do your prices compare?

[SPEEDFLOW]

Dear Mr greenhj

As of july 2010 there is no extra charge for all black anodising!
The teflon hose that is braided is the only hose which is compatable with todays fuels.
If you wish we also sell a rubber EFI hose which will no permiate which is the standard hose for todays cars.

[BeverlyHillsCop]

what was the link to the catalogue??

EDIT: found it...

I has a few things which are needed..

[Billzilla]

what was the link to the catalogue??

Go to their site, it'll be there.
I've PM'ed Speedflow and told him there's no advertising here, but he can post as a regular user in threads and have a link in his signature.

[SPEEDFLOW]

Dear Mr Ed

-6 straight $14.11
-8 straight $16.68

[greenhj]

Dear Mr greenhj

As of july 2010 there is no extra charge for all black anodising!
The teflon hose that is braided is the only hose which is compatable with todays fuels.
If you wish we also sell a rubber EFI hose which will no permiate which is the standard hose for todays cars.

Dear Speedflow,

Please to update your website to reflect the statement regarding black anodising.

Finally, is your efi hose compatible with e85?

[BoganDAVE]

Hi, I like aeroquip, cause it does the job and is shitloads cheaper

hth.

ps, fuck off with your advertising douche.

[Mr Ed]

Dear Mr Ed

-6 straight $14.11
-8 straight $16.68
Those prices are actually cheaper than I have come to expect in Australia, however they are still double the price of a retail price list from the USA. As you can understand, most jobs requiring these fittings will require a substantial quantity of them. If I was to redo my fuel system using them, Id be looking at around 18 fittings, this would mean a difference of well over $100, which more than covers the international shipping.

If this product is made in Australia, why is it so much cheaper in the USA?

[SPEEDFLOW]

Dear greenhj

i appologise about the website it is still undergoing work.
Yes e85 is applicable.

[greenhj]

thanks.

[SPEEDFLOW]

To ALL

Aaron Prins
www.speedflow.com.au
sales@speedflow.com.au

[fantapants]

its nice how he ignores all the abuse....... and the genuine questions over why his product are so much more expensive here, where they are made, to the states which i assume must include international shipping?and then to ship them back here and still be less by a substantial amount.....

must be the aussie truckers chargring too much

[boostin31]

Wow,

MSCN.com.au: speedflow fittings 90deg -6 hose end= $35.28

anplumbing.com: (USA) earls fittings 90deg -6 hose end= $16.49

I know where im getting my next round of fittings.....

[<---cop]

Dear Mr Ed

-6 straight $14.11
-8 straight $16.68

Dear Speedflow,

Why are you prices retired?
I am unable to acquire either the 1(one) cent to purchase the -6 fitting, nor the 2(two) and 1(one) cent pieces required to purchase the -8 fitting.

As these icons of decimal currency were phased out in February 1992, are you able to provide a working DeLorean so that I can travel back in time (preferably to 1985) and acquire the currency to complete these transactions.

Or do you accept I.O.Us?

[Rz]

i go with speedflow for a few reasons , i can get it locally/quickly and alot of the time the car already has some speedflow on it and the customer doesnt want anything else.
just a bit better quality than earls etc too , which you notice when you assemble it.
the adaptors have some attempt at radiusing aswell rather than square edges.

cant explain why it would be cheaper to buy via the states though , thats just fucking stupid.

[[RX3]]

God damn you lot carry on like a bunch of idiots.

[BoganDAVE]

;840979551']God damn you lot carry on like a bunch of idiots.

your face is an idiot

[Mr Ed]

i go with speedflow for a few reasons , i can get it locally/quickly and alot of the time the car already has some speedflow on it and the customer doesnt want anything else.
just a bit better quality than earls etc too , which you notice when you assemble it.
the adaptors have some attempt at radiusing aswell rather than square edges.

cant explain why it would be cheaper to buy via the states though , thats just fucking stupid.
Damo bought a fuel reg from JEGS last week. Ordered it on Tuesday, received it on Friday. Shipping was ~$40 (for what must have been express), would be about the same for a box of 20 fittings.

If they were a comparable price and same shipping time in Australia, Id buy here, but they arent comparable and I dont like throwing money down the toilet, so I wont.

[tinkerbell]

If this product is made in Australia, why is it so much cheaper in the USA?

'cause we don't deserve it :cry:

[komori440]

;840979551']God damn you lot carry on like a bunch of idiots.

Tis funny but ;)

Edit: everytime someone uses the term "retired" I nearly fucking die laughing.

[edo]

Volume is the reason its cheaper OS, shipping stuff by the container load to Jegs, etc costs less than shipping small boxes all over Aust. There is a very good chance that Jegs sell more speedflow than is sold in Australia in total.

[Rz]

Damo bought a fuel reg from JEGS last week. Ordered it on Tuesday, received it on Friday. Shipping was ~$40 (for what must have been express), would be about the same for a box of 20 fittings.

If they were a comparable price and same shipping time in Australia, Id buy here, but they arent comparable and I dont like throwing money down the toilet, so I wont.

but we're talking about speedflow fittings here , i normally order about lunchtime and have it delivered first thing in the morning.
just makes things go smoothly if im allready under the gun to get a car finished.

[Mr Ed]

Volume is the reason its cheaper OS, shipping stuff by the container load to Jegs, etc costs less than shipping small boxes all over Aust. There is a very good chance that Jegs sell more speedflow than is sold in Australia in total.
That might explain why JEGS gets them cheaper than I would, but how can they still make a profit and still sell it, at normal retail price, for half the cost direct from the manufacturer here?

All well and good for SPEEDFLOW to just blame it on quantities, but in a global economy, these are the people they are competing against....the same people they supply....yet still manage to price themselves out of the market.

The local VL crew with no net skills can buy from the Autobahn down the road, but I wont and soon enough Id expect no-one will.

[Mr Ed]

but we're talking about speedflow fittings here , i normally order about lunchtime and have it delivered first thing in the morning.
just makes things go smoothly if im allready under the gun to get a car finished.
If you need them that quickly then you obviously have no choice, seeing as though the cost is being passed on your choice is clear.....but for your own car, when Id expect you know what youre going to do a few days ahead of time, where would you buy from?

Im talking about genuine Speedflow brand fittings too.

[rowdytoot]

so JEGS/anfittings/whoever/ can pay for international shipping to the US AND back to me here, Add their margin and on costs, for less than it costs the manufacturer to send it to me locally?

that makes NO sense...

must be the GST, or climate change. or something else equally retired...

[<---cop]

if you need them that quickly then you will get raped in price by a greedy manufacturer taking advantage of you.

speedfixed

[Mr Ed]

so JEGS/anfittings/whoever/ can pay for international shipping to the US AND back to me here, Add their margin and on costs, for less than it costs the manufacturer to send it to me locally?

that makes NO sense...

must be the GST, or climate change. or something else equally retired...
The lack of a savvy consumer in Australia is the reason. And now that some people are starting to wake up theres sensationalist reports on the news and calls to remove the <$1000 order exemption from duties/GST on overseas purchases?

What a crock of shit.

[Rz]

ed , the other thing is i often have to change the order because something else gets added to the car that needs to be plumbed , or ive ordered the wrong thread on something , much simpler to get it changed over and credited back when the supplier is local.
if i had to wait 3-4 days each time something extra was needed then it drags out.
the bulk buying edo speaks off would go partway to explaining the price difference for the same fitting.

[BoganDAVE]

I can't see the reason you would pay double for fittings, just due to a slightly better annodising and a little easier fitting. Plumbing my fuel system would have been up around 2K with Speedflow from Aus. Has cost me well under 1k buying from Summit when doing other orders.

Not a fan of Frangola which is what my turbo oil return will be plumbed with, but happy with aeroquip. Earls stuff seems okay too, but haven't looked to closely.

I don't mind paying for quality, but speedflow is a stretch too far for me.

[edo]

You know how what percentage of retail sales are completed on line in Australia? 3%...know what percentage of Australia retail sales are completed on line from overseas? 1.5%.

So, as it is they just don't care. When that 1.5% gets up to 10% or so then shit will start to happen.

[Rz]

just personal preference dave.
its not just me talking here , lots of guys here have speedflow on their cars , like tim and guido , dale etc.

[tinkerbell]

so JEGS/anfittings/whoever/ can pay for international shipping to the US AND back to me here, Add their margin and on costs, for less than it costs the manufacturer to send it to me locally?


your misconception might be that it is shipped from China to Aus then to US?

i'd say the US stores get them shipped directly from the plant in China?

[tim510]

yeah I prefer speedflow. IMHO it's head and shoulders above the others.

I buy from Extreme Motorsport at Virginia in Brisbane. Their prices aren't too shabby.

Any AN style fitting is better than hose clamps.

[Mr Ed]

your misconception might be that it is shipped from China to Aus then to US?

i'd say the US stores get them shipped directly from the plant in China?
I dont think JEGS does. Im pretty sure they are a major physical store in the US, not just an online store.

[10sec rx7]

its handy for me to drive 10min down the road and come back with a bag full of bits..

altho i didnt realise that it was so much cheaper buying from the USA..

ive got probablhy $5k worth of speed flow in the race car $7k in the boat and have probably spent $200k on it over the years..

Speedflow,
tell Nick and Travis ill be talking to Mark about the pricing

[Mr Ed]

ed , the other thing is i often have to change the order because something else gets added to the car that needs to be plumbed , or ive ordered the wrong thread on something , much simpler to get it changed over and credited back when the supplier is local.
if i had to wait 3-4 days each time something extra was needed then it drags out.
the bulk buying edo speaks off would go partway to explaining the price difference for the same fitting.
Yeah as a business doing a fair bit of work with the stuff it makes sense to either have a substantial supply of your own, or a readily accessible supplier who does. A supply of your own is going to pocket your business alot more profit, but the investment might not be worth it unless youve got a substantial turn over of stock, which for a one man operation Im guessing you dont and most of your profit is in the labour, not supply of trivial bits.

But, for most of the cunts on here who would only care about their own car, are tight arses and have a good idea of what they need, its pretty clear what the best way to go is.

[tinkerbell]

I dont think JEGS does. Im pretty sure they are a major physical store in the US, not just an online store.

did you read my post?

EDIT: maybe it wasnt clear.

i was saying that they parts are made in china, so any wholesale orders from JEGS might not go via Australia...

[BeverlyHillsCop]

I've had no issues with Speedflow fittings etc... it is cheaper buying online but meh.. somethings i prefer to be able to get them here within a day rather than wait.... which is usually not an option when it needs to be done right away...

besides... im also trying to get into Gerry Harvey's good books so he can hook me up with a mad 3d tv.....

[Greg Rust]

Hi Aaron,

I'm going to require a fair amount of hose and fittings shortly for my build, things like dry sump plumbing, fuel lines, power steering lines.

We may need to talk.

Btw, Welcome

[Mr Ed]

Speedflow,
tell Nick and Travis ill be talking to Mark about the pricing
Lol, advertising back fire!

Check the JEGS catalogue before quoting me, obviously, but yeah 99% sure prices started at $6.99, RRP.

[SPEEDFLOW]

If anyone has any questions be sure to send me a private message!

Aaron

www.speedflow.com.au
sales@speedflow.com.au

[Mr Ed]

did you read my post?

EDIT: maybe it wasnt clear.

i was saying that they parts are made in china, so any wholesale orders from JEGS might not go via Australia...
SPEEDFLOW said his parts were manufactured in Australia. Its been edited out now though.

I was commenting on the 2nd part of your post.

[myliberty]

Speedflow is great, I don't use anything else on my car - it just works.
I buy from quantum racing.

[tinkerbell]

SPEEDFLOW told me in the PM that he sent to me offering to send me a free catalogue that the parts were made in China, and that is why they are so cheap?

[BoganDAVE]

I just think people become pedants about something that can often be done by a good quality brass fitting, new right sized clamp and correctly specced hose.

I wasn't aware about Speedflow's US pricing, if it was 20% more than the similar aeroquip / earls fittings I'd buy it, because the quality is better, no doubt.

Thanks to SPEEDFLOW for starting a thread which alerted me to the availability of cheap speedflow fittings from Jegs, this thread has been most informative.

ps, I tasted speedflow and aeroquip fittings, side to side, they tasted the same, does this make them the same?

[neet_wagon]

Hi Mr Ed,

Speedflow products is made to high standard and quality and is made in australia.
All our products are from high quality aluminium or steel in which we have developed processes to ensure we continue processing a high quality product.
We use hard coat anodising, most companies only use light coat anodising.
Other brands are not! most brands are made in china with forgings.

Aaron Prins

Still says made in Australia?! Didn't someone say they were made in China :confused:

I'm interested in alot of this for the BA - but not if I know I'm being ripped off. I just ordered a JEGS catalogue the other day too....

[Mr Ed]

If anyone has any questions be sure to send me a private message!

Aaron

www.speedflow.com.au
sales@speedflow.com.au
Aaron, why not discuss the pricing issue publicly? Everyone is curious about the same thing.

Its not just you, so dont feel too bad. PWR has been doing the same thing with their radiators for a long time, manufactuered here but significantly cheaper from overseas even after paying for the extra shipping. Ripshifter does it with their products, depending on whether you order a shifter for a Holden or Pontiac GTO (exact same car, different body kit) there is a price difference of a couple hundred dollars, from the SAME website!

Rest assured, no-one on here is going to forget this issue just because you dont want to talk about it.

[10sec rx7]

SPEEDFLOW said his parts were manufactured in Australia. Its been edited out now though.

I was commenting on the 2nd part of your post.

speed flow is made in Taree...

[greenhj]

SPEEDFLOW told me in the PM that he sent to me offering to send me a free catalogue that the parts were made in China, and that is why they are so cheap?

whose parts?

The speedflow site says most of their stuff is made here, the braided hose is made in yankee land, cant remember the rest.

the summit/jegs branded fittings and probably most of the other yank stuff is out of china.

[Mr Ed]

SPEEDFLOW told me in the PM that he sent to me offering to send me a free catalogue that the parts were made in China, and that is why they are so cheap?
Whats made in China? He said SPEEDFLOW stuff was, or their competitors stuff?

[SPEEDFLOW]

Speedflow is made in australia 3-5 coolabah drive Taree nsw 2403

[tinkerbell]

Hi tinkerbell

It is cheaper in the usa because it is made mostly in china! chinese have next to nothing wages.

Would you like a free copy of the 2011 catalogue?

this is the PM i got?

so - i am now confusededed...

[SPEEDFLOW]

most of the competitors is made in china

[fantapants]

but we are all wondering why SPEEDFLOW products purchased in the usa are less than half the price of SPEEDFLOW products purchased here......not your competitors, S P E E D F L O W ...

[SPEEDFLOW]

Speedflow is an australian comany products are made in australia.
We are more expensive because we are paying australian wages not other country wages.

[<---cop]

Man, if I had started this thread I'd feel REALLY retired right about now....

[Mr Ed]

most of the competitors is made in china
Well then, so are your reading and comprehension skills. We're talking about genuine SPEEDFLOW branded products here.

Just checked the JEGS website, it doesnt list SPEEDFLOW parts. Will check Damo's paper catalogue tonight.

[greenhj]

fuckit, ill end up buying speedflow anyway, please provide lube kit with orders over 300 dollars, not for assembling the hose, rather for my sensitive arse as it gets reamed :D

[<---cop]

Hi tinkerbell

It is cheaper in the usa because it is made mostly in china! chinese have next to nothing wages.

Would you like a free copy of the 2011 catalogue?


So they aren't cheaper because they are inferior?
Just that the wages are cheaper over there?

[myliberty]

Speedflow is an australian comany products are made in australia.
We are more expensive because we are paying australian wages not other country wages.

And we are asking why your Australian made products are cheaper to freight to USA, warehouse/distribute and freight back to my door here than it is to buy your Australian made products from my local supplier?
So how about an answer?

[Mr Ed]

Theyre made in Australia.
Chinese people dont get paid much.
Global warming.

[fantapants]

Speedflow is an australian comany products are made in australia.
We are more expensive because we are paying australian wages not other country wages.

can you even fucking read??????? i even put in extra spaces to make it obvious!

[bahaimus]

Just checking the speedflow site, they don't currently appear to have a US distributor. So perhaps this current argument is in fact bunk as it pertains to Speedflow products?

[greenhj]

someone post a link to alleged speedflow fittings sold ex u.s.a.

[<---cop]

Just checking the speedflow site, they don't currently appear to have a US distributor. So perhaps this current argument is in fact bunk as it pertains to Speedflow products?

Could he really be so retired that it takes 3 pages for him to realise they don't sell their own products in the US o'A?

[myliberty]

hi myliberty

Where aqre you purchasing speeflow out of the usa.
as far as we know no one sells spewedflow in the states?

Like I said, I buy my speedflow from quantum racing at underwood (actually via PerFourmance Motorsport).

I was clarifying the question that other were asking for you.

[Mr Ed]

Lol, I did say from memory. Will check the paper catalogue tonight to confirm, but its not looking good.

This guy still sucks though.

[myliberty]

So who is actually buying genuine speedflow products from the USA and where?

Or is this another bandwagon?

[BoganDAVE]

lol, back to buying aeroquip then, although I am sure to get raped at extreme when I need the odd fitting or two, even though their prices are comparitively reasonable.

[BeverlyHillsCop]

Umm... I don't think Jegs or Summit etc sell Speedflow fittings so i think you guys are arguing over an issue that really doesnt exist......

[myliberty]

So Mr Speedflow informed me via PM that Speedflow has no distributor in the USA and does not sell directly to the USA.

This appears to be another bandwagon/lynchmob.

Use and recommend Speedflow fittings.

Mr speedflow - upload your catalogue as a pdf attachment, it's useful to have around.

[Mr Ed]

Pity he cant read or he could have posted that here 3 pages ago.

[myliberty]

He can't spell or punctuate either ;)

[tinkerbell]

fuckit, ill end up buying speedflow anyway, please provide lube kit with orders over 300 dollars, not for assembling the hose, rather for my sensitive arse as it gets reamed :D

to avoid anal leakage, try these guys: http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/index.php

[<---cop]

Fuck Speedflow.

I would have considered them in the future but will not now because....

1. I will not support a company who's staff lack basic comprehension skills.
2. Will only converse via PM so they are not held to scrutiny.
3. Scream "Made In China" fear mongering to play on patriotism.

Have a nice day.

[HoonBoy]

Jegs, Summit and anplumbing don't sell anything branded "Speedflow" so I don't know why you guys are comparing apples to oranges..

[Mr Ed]

I don't know why
You sure dont.

[tinkerbell]

so Earls is not as good as Speedflow?

i rate Earls as good if not better than speedflow... so i think we are comparing apples to apples... (at least I am anyways...)

[edo]

So you guys fucked up & its his fault...geezus.

[HoonBoy]

If you want to ask him why Earls is cheaper than Speedflow, go for it. If you want him to explain how speedflow is cheaper from jegs when they don't sell speedflow then you will never get an answer you are happy with.

But anyway... He's a witch! Burn him! Burn him!

[<---cop]

Can a mod update us on his post to PM ratio as it appears he is circumventing the rules posted by Billzilla in Post #1?

[Rz]

speedflow.uk is the only o/seas one i stumbled across on google.

[Rz]

-6 straight hose end 101-06
£6.85 = $13.76 , vs $14.11 here in austraila , pretty darn close id say ? :)

[tinkerbell]

is Speedflow > Earls?

[Sketchy]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_w-BIcybRNLc/SsdVJZBlO8I/AAAAAAAAAAk/HCytPJ7NNz8/s320/Keyboard+Warrior.jpg

[Mr Ed]

-6 straight hose end 101-06
£6.85 = $13.76 , vs $14.11 here in austraila , pretty darn close id say ? :)
Not enough of a difference to make a fuss about it, but it still makes no sense.

So Australian innovators design and produce some of the world highest quality parts, and then sell them to the rest of the world for a shitload less than theyll sell it to their next door neighbour?

Thats a bit disappointing. :(

[tinkerbell]

-6 straight hose end 101-06
£6.85 = $13.76 , vs $14.11 here in austraila , pretty darn close id say ? :)

still - it is twice the cost of Earls...

[Mr Ed]

If you want him to explain how speedflow is cheaper from jegs when they don't sell speedflow then you will never get an answer at all.
Fixed

Would have been a simple correction for him to make, instead he PMd a bunch of people answering different questions.

It was undoubtedly my mistake that caused all of this, but the same price gouging has been seen from many other Australian manufacturers so its not really a stretch for it to happen here.

It appears as though it is happening, just not to the extent I mistakenly said.

[bahaimus]

It's certainly close enough at the current exchange rate. When the GbP/AUD exchange rate was more favourable to the GBP, that would explain the difference even more.

[Rz]

yeh , like comparing a landcruiser to a TATA.
ill have some landcruiser thanks.

[Fondles]

If you want to ask him why Earls is cheaper than Speedflow, go for it. If you want him to explain how speedflow is cheaper from jegs when they don't sell speedflow then you will never get an answer you are happy with.

But anyway... He's a witch! Burn him! Burn him!

fuckin +1, Ive just been scouting the JEGS website and they don't even sell speedflow, funny all the retireds here jumping on the bandwagon though.

[<---cop]

http://www.rabbit.org/journal/2-2/attack.jpg

[womblesti]

-6 straight hose end 101-06
£6.85 = $13.76 , vs $14.11 here in austraila , pretty darn close id say ? :)

At the current rate of 0.62 it's $11 in the UK. I actually expected the difference to be more.

[Nathan Tinkler]

Jeez you cunts are full on.

The majority of the real users of this stuff have posed how they use speedflow cause it is good quality, Australian made and available at short notice. Attacking this good quality Aussie business just seems like a cunt act when it is mostly the bitza blokes who can't understand that cunts selling generic shit in the states have fuckall to do with speedflow in Australia.

Fuck me swinging.. Welcome to the forum speedflow.

[Mr Ed]

At the current rate of 0.62 it's $11 in the UK. I actually expected the difference to be more.
Shouldnt it be significantly cheaper here?

[OKE020]

I have sampled pretty much all other brands of fittings and nothing comes close to Speedflow.

80% of the fittings on my car are speedflow (mostly critical fittings) and i regret skimping on the other 20%.
You get what you pay for i guess. I dont mind supporting an Australian product either.

I buy through Performance Wholesale in QLD, the fitting prices are quite good on general sizes, the bigger sizes and bends get a bit ouch.

[Mr Ed]

Welcome to the forum speedflow.
Admin disagrees with you :)

Are you able to answer why so many Australian produced parts are available cheaper overseas than here?

[tinkerbell]

Are you able to answer why so many Australian produced parts are available cheaper overseas than here?

bit too off topic, don't ya think?


I have sampled pretty much all other brands of fittings and nothing comes close to Speedflow.

OK, thanks for responding... would Earls be a second place to Speedflow? and then there's the rest?

[BoganDAVE]

Are you able to answer why so many Australian produced parts are available cheaper overseas than here?



lol, if you can't win the argument change the argument

Thank you for not smoking ;)

[Mr Ed]

bit too off topic, don't ya think?
The first post was removed, I dont think this thread has a topic any more.

Why are so many people so happy to ignore this question? No wonder we get charged so much for shit when no questions it.

[BoganDAVE]

Why is speedflow taking away our freedom!

[tinkerbell]

The first post was removed, I dont think this thread has a topic any more.


a thread topic is not its first post, a topic is defined by its title, the first post and the majority of responses...

[Mr Ed]

The majority of the thread was about the question I just asked.

Fuck it, I'll make another thread if it'll help you sleep at night.

[HoonBoy]

Dear Mr Speedflow, can you please tell Mr Ed the international pricing strategy for unrelated companies.

Dear Mr Ed, they charge as much as they think they can whilst still getting a sale. It's called a business not a charity.

[edo]

We finally get a new member who might be useful to others here & you cunts accuse him of all sorts of bullshit & he fucks off. Good fucking work, dickheads.

[tinkerbell]

The majority of the thread was about the question I just asked.

Fuck it, I'll make another thread if it'll help you sleep at night.

make sure you add PWR to the kill list...

[Fraud]

yeah, can someone clean up this thread? He was technically in the wrong for the initial advertising, but he's copped a beating over nothing here...

[rexxxy]

Jeez you cunts are full on.

The majority of the real users of this stuff have posed how they use speedflow cause it is good quality, Australian made and available at short notice. Attacking this good quality Aussie business just seems like a cunt act when it is mostly the bitza blokes who can't understand that cunts selling generic shit in the states have fuckall to do with speedflow in Australia.

Fuck me swinging.. Welcome to the forum speedflow.

Yeah seems like a useful guy to have on side and active on PF. Sure, he should have asked if it was ok to stick up the catalogue, but im sure there would be no objections. An aussie on an aussie forum selling high quality aussie made products and he gets treated like a yank with an orange civic with sik cromiez.

Welcome Speedflow, though I doubt you could be fucked hanging around given your reception so far.

[<---cop]

Poolroom....

[Mr Ed]

Fuck the cunt. He was given ample opportunity to dispute what people were saying, he chose not to. It has since been shown that the same products are available from overseas cheaper than here, so the point still stands and Aaron is yet to answer it.

How is he going to be useful to have on your side? Is he going to give you cheaper prices because you give him good old Aussie welcoming blow jobs? No, hes going to charge you more than he would if you lived in the UK.

He didnt come here to contribute, he came here to sell stuff.

[CussCuss]

factory cars seem to do allright withough fancy annodised fittings everywhere.

[myliberty]

factory cars aren't pulled apart and put back together regularly.

[GT-R LM]

Mr Ed

I think they are just a little cheaper in the UK as RZ said but if you compare the pound to the Aussie dollar you might work out that the poms are getting ripped off, instead of us.
I do agree that he came here to pedal his stuffs and i don't think they would give us a discount either.

Speedflow hasn't been too clear in his posts, but i don't think we need to hammer the guy over a question you should already of worked out yourselves? plus you cunts were asking the wrong Q's all along.

[psi999]

Have used most types of AN fittings over the years.. earls, speedflow, aeroquip.

IMO Speedflow shit on the rest (quality, design, availability) from a great height.... even at almost twice the price id not even be tempted to look elsewhere.

[Sketchy]

Hi, I like aeroquip, cause it does the job and is shitloads cheaper

hth.

ps, fuck off with your advertising douche.


lol, if you can't win the argument change the argument

Thank you for not smoking ;)

Amusing hypocrite is amusing.

[SausageFingers]

here for the Gangba...

Oh fuck, I missed it.

Welcome Speedflow.

[[RX3]]

Fuck the cunt. He was given ample opportunity to dispute what people were saying, he chose not to. It has since been shown that the same products are available from overseas cheaper than here, so the point still stands and Aaron is yet to answer it.

How is he going to be useful to have on your side? Is he going to give you cheaper prices because you give him good old Aussie welcoming blow jobs? No, hes going to charge you more than he would if you lived in the UK.

He didnt come here to contribute, he came here to sell stuff.

By same you mean a different brand manufactured in a different country? Or are you referring to the 40c price difference between Australia and the UK?

[Mr Ed]

;840979904']By same you mean a different brand manufactured in a different country? Or are you referring to the 40c price difference between Australia and the UK?
No, the $3.15 price difference once the product is on the other side of the world.

£6.85 = $10.96 AUD

[Billzilla]

yeh , like comparing a landcruiser to a TATA.
ill have some landcruiser thanks.

:lol:

[BoganDAVE]

Amusing hypocrite is amusing.

comprehension, try it some time ;)

[Billzilla]

I do agree that he came here to pedal his stuffs and i don't think they would give us a discount either.

I tried to organise a discount for PF'ers but that apparently has to go through the state distributors.

[BeverlyHillsCop]

I'm not interested in whether he gives a discount or not... I'd be more happy being able to chat to someone when i need some advice on what I should do/go for...

[edo]

I'm not interested in whether he gives a discount or not... I'd be more happy being able to chat to someone when i need some advice on what I should do/go for...

Exactly, but now you cant because Ed & others fucked up & wont admit it.

[Sketchy]

comprehension, try it some time ;)

http://www.garylewisguideservice.com/elk_river_flyfishing_102504.jpg

[Mr Ed]

I tried to organise a discount for PF'ers but that apparently has to go through the state distributors.
Did you tell him he has to discuss advertising on with the PF state distributors?

[Billzilla]

No.

[GT-R LM]

I tried to organise a discount for PF'ers but that apparently has to go through the state distributors.

Good work Bill :)


I'm not interested in whether he gives a discount or not... I'd be more happy being able to chat to someone when i need some advice on what I should do/go for...

It's a bit hard for some businesses , have you ever called up any big workshops? usually they have a secretary who answers and when you ask a tech Question the put you on to a mechanic. Most businesses cant afford to have another mechanic not working and just answering Questions on the internet.

[Mr Ed]

Exactly, but now you cant because Ed & others fucked up & wont admit it.
Suck my dick and go read the first page again. I wasnt the one insulting anyone, I was asking legitimate questions which he blatantly ignored.

[BoganDAVE]

http://www.garylewisguideservice.com/elk_river_flyfishing_102504.jpg

cool pic.

p.s. if you are going to count that as a win, then you are feeble :p

[rexxxy]

Fuck the cunt. He was given ample opportunity to dispute what people were saying, he chose not to. It has since been shown that the same products are available from overseas cheaper than here, so the point still stands and Aaron is yet to answer it.

How is he going to be useful to have on your side? Is he going to give you cheaper prices because you give him good old Aussie welcoming blow jobs? No, hes going to charge you more than he would if you lived in the UK.

He didnt come here to contribute, he came here to sell stuff.

The guy probably knows a thing or two about fittings, he could probably sort out someone who was in a tight spot and needed something unique, quick.

Maybe he could assist with sponsorship of a pf members race car?

Maybe he could administer CPR to a pf member at the beach, who fucking knows?

Its ok though, looks like he has given up. I guess he should have taken the bait and started arguing, so he could prove himself more.

[BeverlyHillsCop]

It's a bit hard for some businesses , have you ever called up any big workshops? usually they have a secretary who answers and when you ask a tech Question the put you on to a mechanic. Most businesses cant afford to have another mechanic not working and just answering Questions on the internet.

Oh for sure, i fully understand this, i meant in terms of speaking with Speedflow themselves which whenever i've called have been more than helpful.

[Billzilla]

Its ok though, looks like he has given up. I guess he should have taken the bait and started arguing, so he could prove himself more.

The main (real) argument here was they cost more than some brands overseas and he answered that the reason for that was that the Speedflow gear was made here and the local wages are higher than in China, where most other brands are made.
One unresolved point was the apparent costs of freighting the units around Aus and other places.
I'd like to see him make a bit of an effort to get the state distributors to please give us some kind of discount, as a lot of us here prefer the Speedflow brand over others.

[BoganDAVE]

The guy probably knows a thing or two about fittings, he could probably sort out someone who was in a tight spot and needed something unique, quick.

Maybe he could assist with sponsorship of a pf members race car?

Maybe he could administer CPR to a pf member at the beach, who fucking knows?

Its ok though, looks like he has given up. I guess he should have taken the bait and started arguing, so he could prove himself more.

and there are loads of people who do that without their first post being a blatant add. Look at Dale, TK and Scott, plenty of advice and good info given which has seen plenty of work go there way without the blantant sales pitch.

ps, forums with paid advertising generally suck balls because you can never recommend anything outside the forum sponsors and anything said even slightly negative about sponsors = instaban no matter how true.

Go check out LS1.com.au to see how it fucks up a website. We paid cash to keep this place running so that it wouldn't need to have paid advertising and the problems that it brings

[Mr Ed]

The guy probably knows a thing or two about fittings, he could probably sort out someone who was in a tight spot and needed something unique, quick.

Maybe he could assist with sponsorship of a pf members race car?

Maybe he could administer CPR to a pf member at the beach, who fucking knows?

Its ok though, looks like he has given up. I guess he should have taken the bait and started arguing, so he could prove himself more.Maybe so

Maybe if when I said "from memory" heres some cheaper prices of the same stuff, he could have replied with "No, we dont sell our product through that company or in the US". I would think that is information a salesman for the company would know off hand and would be happy to mention.

I have admitted fault for the incorrect mention of the products from JEGS. I sent the bandwagon rolling, but I handed the brakes to SPEEDFLOW and he was too busy chatting up some people in the back row.

[crack]

We should organise a PF Speedflow account and do monthly purchases for discounted prices? Bill will administer and be paid in beer?

[bahaimus]

Suck my dick and go read the first page again. I wasnt the one insulting anyone, I was asking legitimate questions which he blatantly ignored.

Probably because he considered it a question that was irrelevant to his business. He let plenty of other insulting shit from the first page go through to the keeper as well.

The UK pricing would have set at some point when the distribution arrangement was set up. At that point in time, the exhange rate would have been different. The agreement would likely have stated the agreed exchange between the manufacturer and the distributor for a period of time, intervals at which it could be reviewed and an agreed recommended retail price all so that the manufacturer could reach their desired margin. Given the size of the market in the UK, they might have determined to reduce the margin on individual items in order to better compete with other products, and hope to make that up by selling increased volume. Maybe they didn't and if you compared the price of the day in AUD vs GBP, it might well have been the same.

Now the AUD is stronger against the GBP, the GBP price is cheaper. But the agreements remain in place. So the someone is now losing out more than they were when the agreement was set. In a lot of cases, this is usually the manufacturer.

[BoganDAVE]

lol, backhanded appology ftw!

[[RX3]]

No, the $3.15 price difference once the product is on the other side of the world.

£6.85 = $10.96 AUD

By todays exchange rate yes. I would think that it would make more of a business sense to provide a discount to a distributor to get both your name and product recognised and established in a country that hasn't stocked the brand before.

I checked some other prices on the speedflow.co.uk website, the price difference for this item (http://www.speedflowshop.co.uk/-10-90deg-hose-end-103-10-35-p.asp) is a little over $8 CHEAPER here in Australia.

This item (http://www.speedflowshop.co.uk/-10-end-cap-820-10-828-p.asp) is also about 30cents cheaper in Aus

edit - bahaimus beat me to the 1st point...

[Greg Rust]

Guys, I sent an email to Speedflow as I feel that they could be of benefit to all.


Hi Matt

Thanks for your concern.

Aaron is an employee of Speedflow and he was just letting everyone know that we had a new catalogue available.

Our company has not done much advertising in the past as we believe our products sell so well by referrals.
We have decided to become more proactive and were willing to help people with their questions.
But if this is the type of people we will encounter on some forums then this is not a useful environment for us.

Obviously some people out there have issues and will never understand (and do not want to know!) why it cost so much to manufacture in Australia rather than China and have no interest or pride in supporting our local economy.
We have more to worry about than uniformed guys on keyboards that are only looking to be trouble and not discuss in a constructive manner.

I have told Aaron he is to take no further part in the discussion on this Forum and I do not want any further part if we cannot help out productively.



I believe Aaron is arranging to send catalogues out to you, thanks for interest and I hope these will be helpful.

If you have any further questions do not hesitate to contact me.


Best Regards

Shaun Liefting
Managing Director
shaun@speedflow.com.au

[tinkerbell]

so that's a 'no' on the PF discount?

[TonyJZX]

http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/eduwonkette/upload/2008/01/do_schools_matter/head%20in%20sand.gif

[Eurorogerrevolution]

Fuck'n Hell .
Now Im scared to post shit about my own business for fear of offering services that are more expensive than the guy down the road !!!

Firstly none of you know what type of contract was signed between speedflow in Aus and US . How do you know they didnt purchase 1000 units shipped to his door ? That would mean the Australian distributor has to pay for shipping , insurance etc . Also has anyone compared the following : Insurance , rent , fuel costs , wages ?

Mr Speedflow please come back as we need some good information about hoses and fittings !

[tinkerbell]

what info do you need to know that a half educated car enthusiast would not answer?

i know a fair bit about fittings, let me/us know what you are interested to know?

or better still, use the PF Search function and find the posts where fittings/hoses/setups are discussed at length...

[<---cop]

Fuck'n Hell .
Now Im scared to post shit about my own business

Cool.

[rexxxy]

what info do you need to know that a half educated car enthusiast would not answer?

i know a fair bit about fittings, let me/us know what you are interested to know?

or better still, use the PF Search function and find the posts where fittings/hoses/setups are discussed at length...

QFT
We dont need no outsiders, we got all the info right here. Can a mod please close new user registration?

[tinkerbell]

yeah, cause that's what i meant to say...

ffs.

[myliberty]

lolz at awesome self destructive thread.

[Eurorogerrevolution]

Cool.

You wish !!!

Cause of that Im gonna start a post shortly , just for you :wayned:

[da9jeff]

do it cunt, I was looking up URS4's on carsales last night.......just saying

[psi999]

Alpha male/s strike again..... well done guys.

[fantapants]

fwiw, if the guys is a genuine representative of the company, he is really bad at it. yeah got a canning for posting an add, but surely some responsibility needs to lie with the op regarding testing the waters of an advertising thrust?

yes i was a cunt to him. mainly on wrong information re the jegs thing, but my main concern was in regards to him not understanding or answering the questions posed to him.

Instead of getting all moralistic and high horse about the way we treated aaron, take it on the chin an realise your approach was shit, the guy working for you has failed in his set out job and you need to re asses your campaign.

[tinkerbell]

fwiw - he posted identically on BC and not a single response...

[oxy]

The "bagging on the new user" mentality for, in most cases, no good reason, is getting a little old imo.

[edo]

Suck my dick and go read the first page again. I wasnt the one insulting anyone, I was asking legitimate questions which he blatantly ignored.

No thanks.

I read it again. You asked a question which would have confused the fuck out of anyone with a clue about what you were asking. You asked a question that didn't make sense. Why was Speedflow more expensive here than in the US. Perhaps Aaron was searching for Speedflow in the US, perhaps he was asking someone in his office if they actually had a distributor in the US...who knows?

You asked a question that he couldn't answer because your assumption behind your question was wrong.

You fucked up, not him. No need to hurl abuse because of your mistake.

[BeverlyHillsCop]

the "bagging on the new user" mentality for, in most cases, no good reason, is getting a little old imo.

+1

[Greg Rust]

Ed's still pissed that he hasn't received his gearbox from that cunt in WA.

[[RX3]]

fwiw, if the guys is a genuine representative of the company, he is really bad at it. yeah got a canning for posting an add, but surely some responsibility needs to lie with the op regarding testing the waters of an advertising thrust?

yes i was a cunt to him. mainly on wrong information re the jegs thing, but my main concern was in regards to him not understanding or answering the questions posed to him.

Instead of getting all moralistic and high horse about the way we treated aaron, take it on the chin an realise your approach was shit, the guy working for you has failed in his set out job and you need to re asses your campaign.

Maybe you should look at the way you worded your question. I am sure a primary school student would have have asked in a more appropriate way. Considering the abuse he got I don't blame him for leaving and last time I checked there isn't exactly a clear set of rules that would prevent a vendor from advertising on the forums.

Why the fuck would anyone be interested in donating to and possibly advertising on the forums when they've been told to get fucked in the 3rd reply. It's fucking beyond me.

[Mr Ed]

No thanks.

I read it again. You asked a question which would have confused the fuck out of anyone with a clue about what you were asking. You asked a question that didn't make sense. Why was Speedflow more expensive here than in the US. Perhaps Aaron was searching for Speedflow in the US, perhaps he was asking someone in his office if they actually had a distributor in the US...who knows?

You asked a question that he couldn't answer because your assumption behind your question was wrong.

You fucked up, not him. No need to hurl abuse because of your mistake.
I said I was referring to the JEGS catalogue. As soon as I realised the mistake I posted it. Would have been pretty easy for him to correct that and this whole bullshit thread could have been avoided right from the start.

FWIW, the sales manager of the company I work for knows off the top of his head which countries we sell our product in.

If my question was so poorly worded that it could not be understood, why did half the forum jump on the bandwagon?

[edo]

PF is short for bandwagon these days.

Its not that it was poorly worded, just that it was based on crap. If indeed you could buy speedflow from the US at lower prices than here then he might have answered it...

[BeverlyHillsCop]

CJM ppl..... CJM..........

[rexxxy]

yeah, cause that's what i meant to say...

ffs.

Yeah sorry dude, I was using your post to try and make some obscure reference to the attitude some people on here have.

I have seen a few new users who seemed OK, but they get pushed away because unknown to them, they have to pass a bizzare initiation ritual.

Sometimes it sems like the process dosent filter all the shit though.

The bloke posted a catalogue of performance fittings, on a performance car forum. Not like he was trying to sell dishwashers or fake Nikes.

[Mr Ed]

PF is short for bandwagon these days.

Its not that it was poorly worded, just that it was based on crap. If indeed you could buy speedflow from the US at lower prices than here then he might have answered it...
He responded to my posts, just not with answers to my questions, which is why everyone got frustrated with him and cracked the shits.

Why are you defending him?

[Marv]

CJM ppl..... CJM..........

High five for angry apes... hmmm, that might be a bit difficult, actually...

[2rismo]

is Speedflow > Earls?

Yes. Many times better.

[edo]

He responded to my posts, just not with answers to my questions, which is why everyone got frustrated with him and cracked the shits.

Why are you defending him?

Have you stopped raping children?

There are questions that you cannot answer, yours were just that. Sure he could have said "Bullshit Ed" but he chose not to. He has no obligation to answer any questions, I wouldn't answer an accusatory question from someone who is talking crap either.

Not so much defending him, just saying you & others were straight up wrong & there was no reason to stick the boots in like you did.

I'd prefer it if Speedflow were a member on the forums because one day I might need something from them & no matter how much someone here thinks they know about Speedflows products, I bet its less than the guys who make it.

[Its me]

Epic thread.
Will read again.

[TK]

Yikes!!!

I like speedflow, their shit never leaks - even when you're a rough cunt & don't use the little clamp thingy on the rubber line fittings, just jam em on & expect em to deal with EFI fuel line pressures.
Even when you use regular rubber trans line with fittings not designed for it.
Even when you've pulled it apart 11ty fucking times & all the anodising is beat to shit.
Even when it's getting sandblasted on a speedway car to the point that the metal is starting to get eaten away & you gotta use a pair of vice grips to undo/do it up.

Ease up guys, it's good stuff, much better than the cheaper US/China gear.
When you buy a fitting you've got it for life & you know it'll never leak or fail - worth the extra $.
Plus you can get pretty much whatever you need overnight.

[hcca]

Good work fuckheads. Ok, so maybe he should have asked permission before advertising, but you forum faggots have just got rid of a potentially useful contact because it's apparently become the 'done thing' to tell every new member to go fuck themselves for whatever reason.

Awesome work.

[BoganDAVE]

I am now confused as to which bandwagon I should be on, paralysed by choice

lol @ oxy being the moral compass of PF

[Greg Rust]

lol @ oxy being the moral compass of PF

Got to stop that Tectalloy from leaking out somehow.

[Fondles]

Good work fuckheads. Ok, so maybe he should have asked permission before advertising, but you forum faggots have just got rid of a potentially useful contact because it's apparently become the 'done thing' to tell every new member to go fuck themselves for whatever reason.

Awesome work.

Go Fuck yourself.


Errrm your not a newbie.............. BAH Go fuck yourself anyways.

[gmh265]

i'd prefer it if speedflow were a member on the forums because one day i might need something from them & no matter how much someone here thinks they know about speedflows products, i bet its less than the guys who make it.

qft

[da9jeff]

indeed, no offence tinkerbell, but just cause you've used a few AN fittings doesn't mean i'll be PM'ing you about speedflow over the farkin manufacturers :lol:

[oxy]

lol @ oxy being the moral compass of PF

I guess it's no worse than you giving people advice on what shares and property to invest in :D

Seriously though, I did think about this before I posted the comment, but I generally don't bag new cunts out though, especially for no good reason.

It just seems these days that whenever any new member comes on board, everyone jumps on some bandwagon to give the member shit from whichever angle they can.

It used to be funny, and occasionally still is, but more often than not, it's just extremely boring.

[BoganDAVE]

serious post is serious, post serious post seizure is imminent

[komori440]

I stabbed a man in the heart with a trident.

[Sketchy]

I guess it's no worse than you giving people advice on what shares and property to invest in :D




Fknlol!

[fantapants]

;840980122']Maybe you should look at the way you worded your question. I am sure a primary school student would have have asked in a more appropriate way. Considering the abuse he got I don't blame him for leaving and last time I checked there isn't exactly a clear set of rules that would prevent a vendor from advertising on the forums.

Why the fuck would anyone be interested in donating to and possibly advertising on the forums when they've been told to get fucked in the 3rd reply. It's fucking beyond me.

yeah i re read it. seemed pretty clear and simple to me. He then responded promptly with an answer that completely missed the point of the question. If a representative of my company, if i had on lol, was that bad at answering questions, id have to find a better use of his skills. because reading and communicating are not his. Like spelling is not mine :)

i dont think its beyond the realms of good manners to expect someone representing a company in the hope of increasing sales and market share etc etc to take a little time to evaluate the best approach to be used. or at least spend 5 minutes getting to know the vibe of the place.

People get annhialated for joining up just to sell a car, how is this any different? oh because at some point YOU might benefit by getting cheap shit.

I love the product, have used and will use again, thats not what annoyed me. Yes we all bandwagoned, but at the end of the day, if aaron had been better suited to the job he wa undertaking, it could have been cleared up and drinking in the pool room 5 pages ago....

[TonyJZX]

meh i'd rather cunt was gone

worthless sales cunt who only wants a forum full of nut huggers like boostcruising

if you can't handle a bunch of dickheads on a random forum you are just a fucken pussy and the CEO isn't much better

[Greg Rust]

meh i'd rather cunt was gone

worthless sales cunt who only wants a forum full of nut huggers like boostcruising

if you can't handle a bunch of dickheads on a random forum you are just a fucken pussy and the CEO isn't much better

I would have thought he could help you with oil lines for a gearbox cooler.

[ed]

wow, late, in on 7.

i did my tax last week, and fuck me if half my credit card purchases of note were at MSCN. i spent a fucken FORTUNE at that joint over the last 12 months. it is by far the most astoundingly expensive shit. you cannot walk in there to shop without a
$100 note.

but. they are the best fittings bar none. theyre the easiest to assemble, they dont snap, the ID on the radius is bigger per size than pretty much anything else ive seen, the range is massive, and theyve dragged my sorry ass out of trouble with whacky adapters et al.

ive bought and used pretty much everything from the states, and will use speedflow in preference. havent looked to buy it OS, might check it out, but that requires planning! sat morning fuckups and a rush to MSCN before midday is a ritual.

i do buy shit like kevlar heat shielding/covers, braided line, and shit like that from OS.

no denying there is a whacky descrepancy between AU and US pricing though (generally speaking) ill have to have a look at speedflow stuff, but a 'pls explain' is it really IS cheaper to buy OS than at MSCN would be in order

and can we stop comparing a -6 @ $10. be realistic, lets look at -12 swivel 90's

cheers
ed

[Mr Ed]

Cant they still help with that by email? Its not like me asking about pricing got Aaron and everyone in customer service killed.

[Mr Ed]

Have you stopped raping children?

There are questions that you cannot answer, yours were just that. Sure he could have said "Bullshit Ed" but he chose not to. He has no obligation to answer any questions, I wouldn't answer an accusatory question from someone who is talking crap either.

Not so much defending him, just saying you & others were straight up wrong & there was no reason to stick the boots in like you did.

I'd prefer it if Speedflow were a member on the forums because one day I might need something from them & no matter how much someone here thinks they know about Speedflows products, I bet its less than the guys who make it.
Here is my post. First post in the thread.

Hi SPEEDFLOW. Youre stuff is good but why is it so much more expensive here than it is in the USA? Why should I buy through you instead of over the internet, which I can also afford?

Now, if you were in Aarons shoes and someone had mistakingly mentioned your product was available in the US, what would you write back?

Id say "Our product is not available in the US, you are clearly mistaken".

Its not rocket surgery.

[TonyJZX]

I would have thought he could help you with oil lines for a gearbox cooler.

I doubt it since he hasn't been able to field the simplest honest questions and has chucked a sook and left...

I cannot understand why people want "people in the industry" when they are worthless sales folk who may as well be selling phone contracts if they weren't currently employed...

[Nathan Tinkler]

Yeah tony I'm not sure you are the target market for an item that requires tools to install.

[TonyJZX]

i use a mechanic

is that a crime?

[Nathan Tinkler]

This is pretty timely actually cause we are going to announce some new rules any tick of the clock.

There is way too much fuckwitism on newbies when we need to stay fresh by keeping new members coming.

I think this thread should die and we should think about what we want this place to be.

[Nathan Tinkler]

i use a mechanic

is that a crime?

Yeah but you have no place to be heaping shit on a potential technical resource to the forum when you wouldn't know an Earls fitting from a Speedflow if it bit you on the arse. Even if this bloke started up the wrong way he didn't fight it and the dopes who called him out wrongly would have been found out sooner or later anyways.

[TonyJZX]

all the rules in the world isnt gonna help if the noob coming in has a soft skin and can't take a reasonable set of queries

i see a lot of OMG we have someone from the 'industry' so let's nuthug until we get a discount or some shit and the reality is the guy fielding the phones and the sales@company email is who you're really dealing with...

wow awesome

[TonyJZX]

Yeah but you have no place to be heaping shit on a potential technical resource to the forum when you wouldn't know an Earls fitting from a Speedflow if it bit you on the arse. Even if this bloke started up the wrong way he didn't fight it and the dopes who called him out wrongly would have been found out sooner or later anyways.

no place? kindly get bent

if you reckon my posts are so offensive mod away

apparently we want to moderate of what 'someone knows' now...

[myliberty]

This is pretty timely actually cause we are going to announce some new rules any tick of the clock.

There is way too much fuckwitism on newbies when we need to stay fresh by keeping new members coming.

I think this thread should die and we should think about what we want this place to be.

It's the thread that PF had to have...
:knock:

[hcca]

Here is my post. First post in the thread.


Now, if you were in Aarons shoes and someone had mistakingly mentioned your product was available in the US, what would you write back?

Your post makes you sound like a total smartarse. If I was him, and I knew that our products were not available in the US, I would probably ignore you too.


Youre stuff is good but why is it so much more expensive here than it is in the USA? Why should I buy through you instead of over the internet, which I can also afford?

I've highlighted the important part for you - "it" could easily be read as "competitor's fittings" (since they don't seem to actually sell Speedflow parts in the US after all). Maybe pull your head out of your arse for 5 minutes and admit you were wrong?

[BoganDAVE]

Still reckon we need to keep advertising out, as per status quo. Forums with paid ads suck, this thread was a blatant ad and nothing else

[Nathan Tinkler]

no place? kindly get bent

if you reckon my posts are so offensive mod away

apparently we want to moderate of what 'someone knows' now...

Don't get tied up in knots- blokes with more tech cred than you fucked up royally and made us look like hicks as well.

One way or the other it is time to decide if we want to basically close memberships and act like total cunts to every new poster or we want to thrive like we can.

[Nathan Tinkler]

Still reckon we need to keep advertising out, as per status quo. Forums with paid ads suck, this thread was a blatant ad and nothing else

I agree. However it was made clear to old mate that he couldn't advertise here for free but it looks to me that before they could even process that we had gone to town on him. I thought his responses were good considering the reception of bullshit..

[suzuki dave]

Speedflow for me too .
Quality is better than other fittings ive tried over the years.
I have a local supplier , which as Dale said , if i order the wrong fitting , i can get the right fitting the same day.
I am on the best discount structure compared to any other supplier around of speedflow or any other fittings , also the staff of my supplier are always very helpful , unlike another local supplier of the same product.

As with the rest of the thread , i think its poor form of the guy to come here purely to sell their product , really anyone who is serious would just buy the product or continue to use it . Im sure even without him joining ,the people who ask for recommendations for fittings would be told that speedflow are one of the best. I am a member of a few forums that are related to my job/work , but i never go on there to pedal my products , have been offering advice for years. Maybe if he come here as a genuine user saying this is who i am , this is who i work for , if anyone needs advice or info just ask me , and at the end of the post offer anyone who is interested a catalogue.

And yeah the bandwagon mentality and backpeddling when the people accusing him of selling the product much cheaper overseas realised they were in error , you may try to make out thats not how it was supposed to look when you were typing it , but i bet thats exactly how you meant it. I know the people responsible are going to read this and try and defend themselves , but bahh i dont give a fuck so save your post.

[crack]

i made the below figures up which is not unlike the 'all new members get hated on' theory. just something to think about.

100 new members join
of which 25% actively and immediately start posting (100 - 75 = 25 eligible for noob hate)
of which 80% seemlessly integrate (25 - 20 = 5 eligible for noob hate)

assume the 5 remining new members all get bagged out
and 3 deserved it (so who gives a fuck - think east bear kid, vl walkinshaw kit kid, etc.)
then that leaves 2 that didn't deserve it

now assume that one of those undeserving victims stays because he/she realises that the internet is not serious business

that leaves 1 person out of 100 that receives noob hate for no justifiable reason and leaves as a result...
hardly a cause for panic

i realise i've ignored the fact that other members and visitors reading the reltively infrequent noob hate threads may get put off these forums but my point still stands.

nsfw friday threads are turning away hundreds of females each week. shouldn't we be more concerned about that?

[Howard Jones]

How the fuck did this end up in the pool room?

I’m seriously considering banning whatever mod thought this thread was “funny” enough to end up in the pool room

This is an appalling display of the stupid cunts who now seem to roam free in this place.

Most of you guys are over 25, but you act like your 15, you just gotta make cunts of yourself at every possible opportunity, what the fuck is wrong with you people? Its like there’s a race to see when a new member joins who can scare them off the quickest, and its not even funny, you just look like fucking loosers

Congratulations, you cunts blew it, now I gotta go write some rules, and make the mod team enforce them