Dad's FJ62 Landcruiser needs a new donk/conversion - need suggestions!

[SELfor50]

It's one of these: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/1981-1987_Toyota_Land_Cruiser_%28FJ60%29_wagon_%282011-03-10%29.jpg/800px-1981-1987_Toyota_Land_Cruiser_%28FJ60%29_wagon_%282011-03-10%29.jpg

His engine has lasted 480,000km's and it's not far off being deaded.

In that time he's spent thousands on reco'd transmission etc etc.....


Being 60+ years old, german & stuck in his 1940's German way's - he does not want to buy another vehicle. This has been his Arbeitstier (Work Horse) for 20+years and he doesn't wanna let it go.

So...... now he wants me to figure out what engine / transmission combination he can replace it with. Or as the Tranny has been reco'd within recent years, maybe just a newer engine that can be installed with a different bellhousing / adapter to the existing tranny.

It also has a duel fuel setup (rigged for carby engine) that he'd like to re-use, which throw's another spanner in the works.

My thoughts were something along the lines of a more modern yota engine or possibly chev. He's happy to do any type of conversion within budget, gives him more power and lasts another 10 years or so.

Any help / advice appreciated. Full conversion / build will be documented on here too once Dad decides which way to go. I think his budget is around the 5-7k mark for it. But that is with myself and a couple mates doing a fair chunk of it.

Is there a standard conversion or type of engine that is usually done for these cruisers?

Any assistance / advice appreciated.

[myliberty]

2jz + gt3582r.

[Chase Rockwell]

I think Bob Moon from Revell steering in Fyshwick has an FJ60 with a v8. Maybe have a chat with him?

[nastypaul]

dont marks adapters do kits for holden/chev conversions on these?

[TRD-RT81]

http://www.marks4wd.com/products/engine-trans-conversions/toyota/lc-60seriesindex.html

[MR-PUNANNY]

12HT No doubt!

[x]

13bt?

[irsa76]

To be honest, best bang for the buck would be rebuild the orginal 3F(?) with a bit of a head cleanup and a nice cam and thow some extractors and get the carb jetted to suit for when he runs it on petrol. Anything beyond that is going to start eating the budget bigtime, and more then likely cause more headaches. If a conversion is the only option then drop a SBC in there.

[GreyBeard]

1uz, drop right in, runs on gas, peeps make adapters n shit for it

[fly510]

1uz, drop right in, runs on gas, peeps make adapters n shit for it

definite win.

[Billzilla]

This.
http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67270501&highlight=sonny

Accept nothing less.

[TRD-RT81]

would not bother with a 1uz when a 5.7 ls1 is so cheap (I own 2 1UZ powered cars)

[T T Celica]

1FZFE from 80 or 100 series. Use bellhousing, flywheel and clutch setup from an FZJ75 series cruiser (should bolt to the 60 series box!), and may need the 75 seres input shaft. New radiator, make engine mounts, wire it, job done.

Then fit left over turbo bits from Supercrown................

[hotgemini]

13bt?

I know they got the 'b' motor in the 60 series in the states, but I reckon a 13bt would feel a bit down on torque in the 60 (although they go well in a 40/42/71/74). That said, I reckon if you went the 14bt or ideally a 15bt for a bit more capacity then added an intercooler, 3" exhaust, boost and wound up the diesel, it'd feel like a rocketship to someone used to the asthmatic old F motor.

'Hulsty' seems to be making good power and that bloke over in WA playing around with tweaking the factory turbo seems to be getting rave reviews and some epic results.

Although to bolt a 13bt to the stock 60 series gearbox you need to change the input shaft as it's longer.

[hrt5l]

1FZFE from 80 or 100 series. Use bellhousing, flywheel and clutch setup from an FZJ75 series cruiser (should bolt to the 60 series box!), and may need the 75 seres input shaft. New radiator, make engine mounts, wire it, job done.

Then fit left over turbo bits from Supercrown................

This is the correct answer to the question.

[samdumbert]

Just rebuild the standard engine, a old v8 is just asking for over heating problems.
edit ...and driveline problems

[MRMOPARMAN]

With 4x4s, simplicity rules. Get an adapter and chev crate enginmee. Cheap, cheerful and reliable. And if something fucks up, any cunt can fix it and you can get spare parts from coles. And after all that, the economy probably wont be much different to the old 3f

[SELfor50]

Damn... soooo much food for thought. Thanks for the input fella's.

I was thinking of the 1UZ conversion... or then the 1FZFE due to parts matching up mostly and keeping it Toyota.

After having a read through a few things this morning, I'm leaning towards the LS1 conversion. I would still like to nut out what the kits are like and how much additional shit i'll have to worry about outside of the kit.

Rotor's are definitely out. Just cause i've had many friends attempt suicide over the reliability of pig cookers.

Will have a chat with Bob from Revell about his V8 cruiser and scope out what was done there. That should be good to see in the flesh.

I have an inclination to drop a 2j + GT35 in there being that at some point, I'll most likely end up owning this. :dunno:


What's a good source for LS1 crate engines?? What sort of coin would I be up for a 5.7? they're cheap as right?
If the conversion kits bolt up without much stress to the current transmission then I think this is gonna be the way things go.


Unless I can find an S600 V12 engine lying around anywhere. :knock:

[DROOPZ]

Go a carby crate engine for epic simplicity dude.

[dogsballs]

duramax

[GMMAD]

1FZFE from 80 or 100 series. Use bellhousing, flywheel and clutch setup from an FZJ75 series cruiser (should bolt to the 60 series box!), and may need the 75 seres input shaft. New radiator, make engine mounts, wire it, job done.

Then fit left over turbo bits from Supercrown................
1FZ is the go...cheap and reliable

[hotgemini]

Rotor's are definitely out. Just cause i've had many friends attempt suicide over the reliability of pig cookers.


13BT isn't (in this instance) a rotary. It's a toyota, 3.4 litre, 4 cylinder, direct injected turbo-diesel engine. The 14B is 3.7 litres and the 15B is 4.1 litres.

The bigger variants (14B and 15B) are fitted to dyna and diahatsu trucks and the later 15BFT and 15BFTE get basically a 4 cylinder version of the well-regarded 1HD-FT/1HD-FT 4-valve cylinder head.

[SELfor50]

13BT isn't (in this instance) a rotary. It's a toyota, 3.4 litre, 4 cylinder, direct injected turbo-diesel engine. The 14B is 3.7 litres and the 15B is 4.1 litres.

The bigger variants (14B and 15B) are fitted to dyna and diahatsu trucks and the later 15BFT and 15BFTE get basically a 4 cylinder version of the well-regarded 1HD-FT/1HD-FT 4-valve cylinder head.


Gotcha... i was a little confused as to why a 13BT rotor would be a suggestion for this... hahah...

Thanks for the re-education.

Leaning towards LS1 but will also scope out 1FZ and see if I can get one and reco it for good price.

[briney]

be careful with the assumption that a 1fz will be a bolt up with toyota bits. all of the 1fz powered cruisers i've seen (even 75 ser.) used what looked like an 80 series 'box. the bellhousing may not fit the car.

i've seen a complete 15b-ft (4.1L turbo diesel with 4 valve head and a mechanical pump.) for 5k. you could get a bellhousing from a b motored dyna made in the late 70's/early 80's and a spacer plate from crs.

another nail in the 1fz coffin is most of the ones i've seen (in 80 ser. at least.) had big problems with valve seat recession when run on gas. and they can be fucken thirsty.

how happy is he with the standard donk ? it would be heaps less fucking around to rebuild and tidy up the original.

[hotgemini]

briney: Did you see that 15B-FT recently? If so, details man, I need details!!

[MRMOPARMAN]

theres a 1kz for sale on toymods for $1500.. would make a nice little motor in the FJ. these things can be ramped up real nice!