Concept only: Dual Quad Rotor Motor

[klampykixx]

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad150/klampykixx/Paint%20dot%20NET%20images/DualQuadRotaridea.jpg

two quad rotor motors in parallel powering a common crank.

mirror image of each other, rotating in opposite directions.

feeding from a common plenum.

like a V8, but rotary.


would/could it work?

[Stix Zadinia]

yes!

can you also please give us a picture of your proposed dashboard (preferably at night)

[Billzilla]

I don't know but I'll say yes in case it works.

[seedyrom]

There's not enough crude oil in Saudi Arabia to power this motor

[<---cop]

Do you reckon it would hold with 8 bolt mains?

I believe this is the biggest problem you face.

[Billzilla]

More seals than the Antarctic.

[Stix Zadinia]

how are you going to time the rotors to not break your common crank?
what forces is this thing going to generate (and is it going to break engine mounts)?
whats with the clutches?


EDIT - blue thing is the intake, but whats stopping your gears from losing their teeth when something happens?

are you just trying to make us flame you?


oh the humanity (and apex seals!)

[Ben Wilson]

Wouldn't the inlets have to be on the outside with a bunch of spark plugs in the middle?

[klampykixx]

no, this is a semi serious discussion. its an idea i had, it may or may not work, but if you guys can be constructive about it maybe someone who is actually able to, might be able to put one together if only out of curiosity.

[seedyrom]

I now understand this (http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=841212968&postcount=18) post



Well that was shit.

On a level not seen since Klampykixx last thread......................

Picked the shit thread coming 8 hours in advance

[seedyrom]

but if you guys can be constructive about it maybe someone who is actually able to, might be able to put one together if only out of curiosity.
Mount the engines at 35 degree angles from the "flywheel"

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hq_fOvgmYj8/TVObSMhS3NI/AAAAAAAAAHo/u30ACTo2Awk/s1600/Mechanical_Movements_Multiple_Gear_Speed_in_Line_o f_Shaft.gif

[val245]

no no no, you would have to run a e49 cop chip as a standalone charger ecu

[Billzilla]

Hey could you just keep joining rotor housings together to make one really long rotary?
You'd need to make special eccentric shafts and so on.

[klampykixx]

yea, i have heard about someone doing that.. i thought by keeping it relatively short, it would/could fit in the majority of engine bays.

[Stix Zadinia]

http://mestrejoca.blogspot.com/2009/03/as-entranhas-do-motor-jamaro.html

i found this and thought it was cool.

[seedyrom]

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4389012

In english.

Nice welds!

[Stix Zadinia]

cool thanks! but stop it you're bringing too much logic in here

[EnFlaMEd]

I was kinda thinking something along the lines of having 4x3rotors all connected to a massive common turbo with each unit powering a hydraulic pump that powers a motor on the wheels. Awesome 4x4 rx7 drifters FE!

[HoonBoy]

yea, i have heard about someone doing that.. i thought by keeping it relatively short, it would/could fit in the majority of engine bays.

How wide is this engine bay you are thinking of? Don't forget the space in the middle for spark plugs and leads plus the space on the sides for the exhaust.

If you are serious, go to a tractor pull and have a look at how they do multiple motor setups.

[Fondles]

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad150/klampykixx/Paint%20dot%20NET%20images/DualQuadRotaridea.jpg

two quad rotor motors in parallel powering a common crank.



Common crank ?

Looks to me each "bank " has its own crank that are driving a gearset that feed a single output shaft.

[myliberty]

fuck rotards.

Get yourself a pair of gas turbines and gearbox from an old Adelaide class frigate.

Good for 30,000kw atw.

gearbox is a bit heavy though, you might need to strengthen the gearbox crossmember.

[Billzilla]

fuck rotards.

Get yourself a pair of gas turbines and gearbox from an old Adelaide class frigate.

Good for 30,000kw atw.

gearbox is a bit heavy though, you might need to strengthen the gearbox crossmember.

... and a 50 litre fuel tank would only last a few seconds.

[myliberty]

That's all you'll need to get 400m.

[vet 180]

Hey could you just keep joining rotor housings together to make one really long rotary?
You'd need to make special eccentric shafts and so on.

Thats what I was thinking.

even 8 stacked would be far more compact, simple and easier to build than the abortion in the pic. They are much wider than they are thick. 8 rotors stacked should fit in most 6cyl bays

Would sound fair tough me thinks

[Fondles]

Thats what I was thinking.

even 8 stacked would be far more compact, simple and easier to build than the abortion in the pic. They are much wider than they are thick. 8 rotors stacked should fit in most 6cyl bays

Would sound fair tough me thinks

I think your over complicating it all, what should be done is 2 matrix's of 4 quad rotors with each quad firing as a single cylinder and set them up as eight individual cylinders configured in a V formation, timing chain might be a bit cunty though.

[Passion-Fingers]

troll I know but others may be interested. (repost prob).

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/Jimboblair/17.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/Jimboblair/13.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/Jimboblair/1.jpg

[boostin31]

whoa

[dave1600]

Google "Ariel Square Four".

Slightly less powerfull, but same concept.

[Billzilla]

I always liked the Napier Deltic.

http://craftsmanshipmuseum.com/images/ClenSection.jpg

[FUBAR]

What cams would you run in these rotors?

[Tripper]

Mount the engines at 35 degree angles from the "flywheel"

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hq_fOvgmYj8/TVObSMhS3NI/AAAAAAAAAHo/u30ACTo2Awk/s1600/Mechanical_Movements_Multiple_Gear_Speed_in_Line_o f_Shaft.gif

rotary vee engine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvrke7wblQs&feature=related

[<---cop]

ET-MOTOR FTW!!!!!!!

Click here for animation (http://www.et-motor.com/moteur2.swf)
http://www.et-motor.com/flash238.gif

[bigmuz]

When you can make 1500hp+ from a 20b what aspect are you looking to improve?

Also one of your engines appears to be running backwards.

[Sucker]

Could you just get 2 13b engines and weld them together to make a 26b? Like weld the water pump pulley of one to the back of another, then they should act independent of each other and be more reliable as the crank wouldnt be as long.

[dlux]

What cams would you run in these rotors?

Two of the big ones, to achive danger to manifold.

[x]

Two of the big ones, to achive danger to manifold.

And self-undoing floorpan tek screws.

SHUTUP!

[Gassed250]

troll I know but others may be interested. (repost prob).

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/Jimboblair/17.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/Jimboblair/13.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/Jimboblair/1.jpg any more on this??

[Greg Rust]

yea SuperDamper is looking to fit some more at the crankshaft end

[boostin31]

any more on this??

First start, this happened:

http://images.mylot.com/userImages/images/postphotos/2191296.jpg

[x]

First start, this happened:

http://images.mylot.com/userImages/images/postphotos/2191296.jpg

That was just blowby from the apex seals...

[All For You]

I think powerchip already sell a chip for this

[Passion-Fingers]

any more on this??

alegedly 1440hp N/A or something, which isn't really THAT good considering it's 960CI
http://www.smith-power.com/r12.

[Greg Rust]

and weighs 830lbs, seems like it was built for a boat.