European Grand Prix

[KwiKJiM]

Well Webbers qualified 3rd again, but how about heidfield! Pole posi on his home track. I must admit I didn't think the williams would back up quite this well after Monaco. Lets hope Webber gets a good start and williams have ironed out some of the tyre wear issues on faster tracks.

Schumi has had another dissapointing start. 10th place. BAR are struggling after their absence. Should be interesting.

Can't wait for tonight!

James

[dazza]

WTF Heidfeld pole? Thats unpossible!

Up until now the only time he's been ahead of webber is because of luck cannot friggen believe it!

[Nafe]

Interesting during the interview with Webber on RPM that Webber wouldn't elaborate on fuel strategies, but the implication seemed to be that Heidfeld is on a lighter initial fuel load. Webber said he was "very happy" with his lap.... I'd be guessing he's got around 2 laps more fuel onboard.

[Tripper]

whats the site with live timing, it aint shown till 1am here

[Nafe]

www.formula1.com

You need to register now though.

[RS-11]

I'ts awesome about williams, i can't wait for tonight and i'ts only been a week's rest, should be a good one....

[dazza]

2 laps nafe? If he was happy compared to heidfeld I would have said he has a few more than 2 laps extra... But as you said we will see

Good luck to mark I wanna see a Number 1 finish

Good to see the williams seem to have sorted out their dramas with the rear grip too

[Nafe]

I can't remember how many kilos = how much extra time per lap.
I'm hoping it's more than 2 laps worth of fuel though

[SpeedyDerek]

webber looks like he's in a good position for tonights race, but unfortunately the one glaring thing from my point of view is that he's alongside that toyota of trulli. Too many times this year has he been following that panasonic rear wing after a bad start.

I think raikonnen will try and take heidfeld in the first few laps, which will make for good racing, then ultimately pass him once heidfeld takes his first pitstop. Montoya won't figure, and neither will the toyotas at race pace, unless trulli gets ahead of webber at the start.

Webber a great chance at another podium, and hopefully go one or two better from monaco, i can't see him winning unless Kimi has a failure.

BAR look disappointing, but we'll have to see them in the next race at full strength again with a new engine, as the imola engine has been sitting around for weeks without being used, something these engines werent designed to do and some parts may have degraded. Expect to see one or two BAR honda engines smoking up.

Barichello may challenge Alonso back in the places a bit due to the tyre mismatch coming up to temperature at different times.

My Pick for the points paying positions.

Raikonnen
Webber
Heidfeld

Alonso
Trulli
M. Schumacher
Montoya
Barichello

If both minardi's finish they'll finish ahead of both jordans.

[dazza]

Where's M. Schumacher on the grid?

[SpeedyDerek]

Where's M. Schumacher on the grid?

10th

Rest of grid here
http://www.f1racing.net/en/raceresul...racepartID=709

[RS-11]

I can't remember how many kilos = how much extra time per lap.
I'm hoping it's more than 2 laps worth of fuel though

I think 1kg = round 0.2/0.3 of a second

I wish that the qualifying was back to low fuel and the fastest car.... oh well worked out for Williams this time..

[Nafe]

I think that is probably more like 10kg... I'm not sure carrying 4kgs would slow you by a second a lap

[zpeed]

this race looks interesting, you can't count out the ferraris, they are heavy, and once the tyres are warm they will be quicker than most of the top runners out there, as seen in prevous weeks, so i say schumi is ten, but he will finish top 5,

Williams have benefited from the fee weeks of testing they have done, to bad they didn't do there full program this weekend in testing...

Bar will blow an engine, also they development they have done to the engines over the past 5 weeks are not on these old engines, so everyone even BAR are waiting for one to blow....

and i think if kimi finishes, he will be 1st. theyve looked to strong over the past few weeks to doubt

[Shitbreak]

Also interesting on RPM how Webber said that his starting problems will not be fixed any time quick.
Anyone wanna take guesses on how many positions he'll lose this time

[zpeed]

he is on the clean side of the track, but last couple of weeks he has been loosing 3 spots... so 1 row

[RS-11]

I think that is probably more like 10kg... I'm not sure carrying 4kgs would slow you by a second a lap

haha yeah probably more like 10kg....... i just remember the commentators talking about it at monaco.....

[fdrx7]

Williams did over 60 back to back practice race starts at testing last monday. It's not like they're not trying.

I can't see Kimi not winning this again, but expect to see a Williams of some description on the podium.

[fdrx7]

Oh and updatef1.com have live timing without registration.

[AndyMac]

My guess.

Webber will follow Heidfeld through the first corner and block out Kimmi.

Mark on a 2 stoper compared to a 3 stopper for Nick.

M Schumacher to win the race by about 3 light years

Kimmi 2nd &
Webber 3rd with Heidfeld 5th
Alonso 4th.
Trulli 6th

Webber to drive his best race of the season....

there ya go......100 to 1 odds of all that happening...but it is F1.

[Stix Zadinia]

my predictions:
Heidfeld will be out within the first half of the race (after a run in with someone), Schumacher will pull a good lead (but spend the first half of the race trying to break a few other drivers) and be light years ahead (as mentioned before) i'm guessing 4th or 5th for Webber. but i hope he does better.

[zpeed]

sato changed his engine so he'll be at the back,

[Nafe]

Sato will probably blow the new engine too anyway

Interesting fact - BMW make the clutch, but Williams make the clutch actuator. Talk about a team effort to fix the starts..... I wonder what those de-briefs are like after shitful GP starts. Hopefully they will have improved it so that Webber can make an equal start to Trulli and hold that bullshit Toyota behind him so he can have a proper race

[RS-11]

Well well well, a little better off the line but only till the first corner.....Montoya did turn a little sharp maybe should have stayed out wider,

but i guess it is more of a "racing incident".....i guess mark was desperate to keep his position after the last few starts and didn't want to let Montoya through.

[Lurch]

Well... It happend again.
Poor bloody Mark, he can't seem to catch a break.
If I was him, I'd be feeling completely fed-up by now...

[trent from punchy]

im not watching it anymore

[zpeed]

finished on live timing.... damn what a race will watch it now, looked like a interesting race

Spoiler below higlight it to see it

mark webbers crash out means next week in canada he wil get a shit qualifying run position as he didn't finish

[Billzilla]

Well you can quote me - again! - on that single tyre rule being one of the fucking stupidest things in racing I've ever seen.

Sorry to see Raikkonen go out like that.

[takai]

Bloody hell. Stupid stupid stupid Montoya, turning in .... grrrrr. If i was out there i would not be a happy chappy

[AndyMac]

Webber actually said he thought he was more to blame then Montoya Takai. Watching replays, I think the accident was a 50/50 to each driver.

As a Webber fan, I wish he didn't of break so late!

2 Weeks Canada.