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    Toyota to enter nascar

    NASCAR and Toyota announced Monday the manufacturer’s plans to expand its NASCAR program by competing in the NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series and the NASCAR Busch Series starting in 2007, fielding the Toyota Camry model. The expansion will follow three years of Toyota competing in the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series, and will result in all three of NASCAR’s national series having four manufacturers competing, as Toyota will join Chevrolet, Dodge and Ford.
    “NASCAR welcomes Toyota to the greatest auto racing in the world,” said NASCAR Chairman and CEO Brian France, who made the announcement on Monday at NASCAR’S Research and Development Center in Concord, N.C. “Toyota’s entry into the NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series and the NASCAR Busch Series is good for drivers, teams and the fans. This move provides for even more intense competition on the track between drivers and manufacturers, which will provide more excitement and fan interest. Toyota’s entry also provides more options for drivers and teams, which will increase the competition between manufacturers.”
    “It’s a great pleasure to announce Toyota’s entry into the NASCAR NEXTEL Cup and Busch Series with the Toyota Camry,” said Dave Illingworth, senior vice president and chief planning and administrative officer for Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc. “Next year – 2007 – will be a special year for Toyota in more ways than one. Toyota will be celebrating its 50th anniversary in the United States, and we will be joining the NASCAR NEXTEL CUP Series, America’s premier racing series. Toyota has been an important part of the U.S. motorsports community for almost 25 years. We’ve competed and won in different series and on tracks across America. Toyota drivers and teams have won championships in a variety of different series. But, if you want to compete against the best, in America that means NASCAR. We look forward to February of 2007 when the green flag waves to start the Daytona 500 and the starting lineup features the Toyota Camry.”
    Illingworth, who joined France in making the announcement, said more information – regarding possible sponsor and driver lineups – will be released Tuesday night, during a media gathering at Lowe’s Motor Speedway in Concord.
    Toyota, which has been doing business in America since 1957, now has eight plants in the United States – 14 if you count all of North America. Toyota will build approximately 1.6 million vehicles this year, including production at its new Tundra pickup plant in Texas. Toyota and its dealers now directly employ approximately 142,000 Americans. Since 1986, Toyota has built more than 12 million vehicles in the United States. More than 6.5 million Camrys have been sold in the United States and it has been the bestselling car in America for eight of the past nine years. Camrys are built at Toyota Motor Manufacturing in Georgetown, Ky

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    Why do you laugh?

    I hear their Truck Series motor is pretty tough, lotta money spent on it. Camry should be competitive then

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    will they be racing with tissue boxes and cushions on the parcel shelf?
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    so nascar now?? what about the V8 supercars they were "apparantly" entering into aswell
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    V8 Supercars got snobby and wouldn't let them enter.

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    Don't they have to run old school engines like they would have to in Supertaxis? I thought Nascars still ran carbies?

    They actually sell Camrys there. Here they give them away for free to fleet companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsnotagsr
    Don't they have to run old school engines like they would have to in Supertaxis? I thought Nascars still ran carbies?
    carbs, restrictors, control cams (or cam!) - they're worse than v8 supercars... at least we run motecs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsnotagsr
    Don't they have to run old school engines like they would have to in Supertaxis? I thought Nascars still ran carbies?

    They actually sell Camrys there. Here they give them away for free to fleet companies.
    Yeah I'm fairly sure they have to use pushrods. Not sure about the carbies though. It wouldn't surprise me. I just find it interesting that Toyota are actually making a pushrod engine just to compete in NASCAR.

    That "Camry" would have to be RWD too.

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    Yeah but neither V8 Supercars, NASCAR or any of the Nascar sub-series are about anything more than the engine having 8 cylinders. and lots of crashes. So it really doesn't matter whether Toyota are representing their product in anything more than name and brand.

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    and being that nascar is only painted fibreglass shells ANYWAY, it's just a big remote control model making war, really

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    Why wouldnt the biggest car manufacturer in the world want to be involved in the worlds most successful touring car series...in one of its biggest markets???

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    Lay off the Camry. (hugs is Camrys)

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    “NASCAR welcomes Toyota to the greatest auto racing in the world,”
    yeah, cause F1 is for non-american pansys
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    Quote Originally Posted by dojobi
    Yeah I'm fairly sure they have to use pushrods. Not sure about the carbies though. It wouldn't surprise me. I just find it interesting that Toyota are actually making a pushrod engine just to compete in NASCAR.

    That "Camry" would have to be RWD too.
    I think most of the Yank "shells" running NASCAR are nameplates of real-life cars which are FWD sedans anyway.
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    Yeah you're right. I just checked some specs and noticed that the Monte Carlo is fwd. Putting a 5.3L V8 in a FWD car is crazy.

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    the only thing similar between a nascar and the car it is based off is 0.5mm of sheet steel of the turret and the door skins. They are a purpose made tube frame setup which the class mandates it use a steering box (not rack) and double wishbone front ala kingswood and live axle rear. It's like comparing a top fuel car with a production car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zac
    V8 Supercars got snobby and wouldn't let them enter.
    gays..
    what reasons? ford and holden only or some shit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash H
    yeah, cause F1 is for non-american pansys
    Bernie would love F1 to draw as many people as Nascar does to each of these races..

    No one can deny Nascar is the biggest motorsport series (inc trucks busch and nextel cup) around.

    The only way anything could overtake them is if China starts up a ricshaw race series and all billion chinese start watching



    Also I would say this is a good stepping stone for Toyota to enter v8 supercars, (the standardised chassis which TC wants to bring is the final stone)
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    V8supercar regs do actually say it has to be a falcon or commodore BUT they have been quite open to allowing entries from other manufacturers (toyota & mitsubishi) to run. The catch is of course that they would have to run with the existing rules, so its a 5 litre pushrod V8 with a heap of control components, 10:1 comp & 7500rpm, holinger 6 speed H pattern, control 9 inch live axle, control front suspension (except shocks & springs), control wheel size, 1380kg min weight etc etc.
    Neither toyota nor mitsubishi wanted to run to these regs.
    In the end a camry V8 supercar would share the same number of components with its road going equivalent as a commodore or falcon does.

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    Meh it is easy to enter Nascar, all you do is buy the control chasis, the control engines and then tweak the control suspension for left hand corners on control tyres. Oh woops I forgot goto cover your car in lots of sponsors as that is about the only part that isn't regulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by summoner
    Meh it is easy to enter Nascar, all you do is buy the control chasis, the control engines and then tweak the control suspension for left hand corners on control tyres. Oh woops I forgot goto cover your car in lots of sponsors as that is about the only part that isn't regulated.

    It might be easy to enter, but extremely difficult to do any good at all. With that much preparation you would not even make it past qaulifying.
    I did the Claude Roulle Motec Seminar last year and Claude said in the better teams, for the 36 races they run per year they have 24 cars per driver. Each car is build specifically for each track, though some can double up for other tracks as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billzilla
    It might be easy to enter, but extremely difficult to do any good at all. With that much preparation you would not even make it past qaulifying.
    I did the Claude Roulle Motec Seminar last year and Claude said in the better teams, for the 36 races they run per year they have 24 cars per driver. Each car is build specifically for each track, though some can double up for other tracks as well.
    They are crude, but extremely refined for what they do.
    And with toyota dominating the truck series i'm sure they will do well in 2-3 seasons time with Nascar. I understand they're refined and crazy etc, but I just find them so boring :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by summoner
    Oh woops I forgot goto cover your car in lots of sponsors as that is about the only part that isn't regulated.
    Oh yes it is regulated, there is a whole pile of series sponsor stickers that have to be placed on your car right behind the front wheel

    And with toyota dominating the truck series i'm sure they will do well in 2-3 seasons time with Nascar. I understand they're refined and crazy etc, but I just find them so boring :/
    See them live and you will be blown away.... I am serious the amount of air these guys move when the go passed you at 200mph on a oval two/three wide, will knocks over the people in the front 10 rows... crazy to watch. Tv just doesn't give it justice.
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    The only thing I dont understand about Nascar is how the hell you convince the manufacturer of a washing powder to give you big piles of money in exchange for their name all over your car...I just cant work out how that would be money well spent, there must be a good reason, but I have no clue what it is.

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    edo - I don't get it either - it's not like rednecks wash their clothes on a regular basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by St00ge
    Oh yes it is regulated, there is a whole pile of series sponsor stickers that have to be placed on your car right behind the front wheel



    See them live and you will be blown away.... I am serious the amount of air these guys move when the go passed you at 200mph on a oval two/three wide, will knocks over the people in the front 10 rows... crazy to watch. Tv just doesn't give it justice.
    pics of these 'trucks' ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by psssi98
    edo - I don't get it either - it's not like rednecks wash their clothes on a regular basis.


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    Here's the photo...very ricee...nice I mean.not.

    I must say this race series is very amish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edo
    The only thing I dont understand about Nascar is how the hell you convince the manufacturer of a washing powder to give you big piles of money in exchange for their name all over your car...I just cant work out how that would be money well spent, there must be a good reason, but I have no clue what it is.

    Washing powder is easy....... When you already have millions of loyal Nascar fans buying NASCAR POTATOS so when shopping for there Nascar Potatos and Carrots that they will pickup some Tide washing powder because there fav driver is sponsored by them




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    It just has sheer market presence and alot of people watch it.... and buy what they see....

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