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    Subaru WRX gets 195kw . Not bad

    And the belated Sedan is coming finally

    http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...p:content2:wrx
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    The more refined third-generation WRX upset the cult car's traditional fan base - so Subaru has restored some agility and aggression with a new version.
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    Subaru has released a new version of the Impreza WRX in response to criticisms from driving enthusiasts.

    The significantly modified Impreza WRX performance car has entered showrooms less than 16 months after the third-generation WRX went on sale.

    The 2009 Subaru Impreza WRX (or 'MY09' for model year 2009) features a range of improvements designed to make the car more agile and more powerful than before. Changes to the Impreza WRX include increased engine performance, stiffened suspension and new tyres, though pricing remains at $39,990.

    The mechanical tweaks to the WRX hatch coincide with the belated launch of a sedan version of the WRX (which also benefits from the changes), though Subaru Australia admits the revised car is aimed at appeasing disgruntled fans of the cult performance car.

    "In the first three months of the WRX going on sale we had our first feedback that while the move to embrace a wider target audience had been successful some of the traditional buyers felt alienated," says Subaru Australia boss Nick Senior.

    "They wanted a WRX that was more in keeping with their expectations and what they had tasted over the years."

    Senior says local customer responses were fed back to Subaru HQ in Japan, and before even the end of 2007 the Australian subsidiary was working with its parent company to develop a sportier suspension package to satisfy the WRX’s loyal fan base.

    Australia wasn’t the only Subaru market in the world sending criticisms back to Japan. However, Subaru Australia’s strong positioning in the Japanese car maker’s constellation – it’s the third-biggest market after Japan and North America – allowed the company to request a unique WRX suspension tailored specifically for Australian roads.

    In addition to the stiffer suspension, the new WRX features a more powerful 2.5-litre turbocharged four-cylinder (there's an extra 26kW to a class-leading 195kW) and more torque (up 23Nm to 343Nm).

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    There are also new, wider tyres from Dunlop that replace Yokohamas.

    Subaru says the result is a significant improvement in performance, with the new WRX shaving half a second off its 0-100km/h time; the new WRX now achieves the benchmark in 5.3 seconds.

    Subaru says its own testing – using Subaru rally drivers Cody Crocker and Dean Herridge – confirms gains in other performance parameters, including the standard quarter mile, or 0-400m test (0.8 seconds quicker) and in-gear acceleration (0.6 seconds quicker in fifth gear from 80-120km/h).

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    Subaru’s Senior says that despite the mechanical upgrades the company is not abandoning its plan to reach new customers with the WRX.

    "The only real change is a more sporty suspension," he says. "The rest of the car has that refinement we introduced on the MY08 model that is still appealing to a broader market."

    Senior says the hatchback version of the WRX will continue to attract the newer buyers, skewed towards a more female, younger demographic. The new sedan will be favoured by the more traditional WRX buyer, he says.

    Subaru Australia expects the mix to be split evenly between hatch and sedan, while the company hopes the mechanical improvements combined with the introduction of the new four-door will help to nearly double WRX sales.

    "We are currently averaging about 80 WRX sales per month, but we want to grow that to about 120-150 per month," says Senior.

    Subaru Australia has sold more than 25,000 WRXs since the model – affectionately nicknamed ‘Rex’ – launched in 1994, with a best-ever annual result of 3776 sales in 1999.

    Senior says that while WRX enthusiasts are always vocal, other car makers would be envious of the car’s following.

    "The WRX since its launch in 1994 has become an iconic car, a vehicle appreciated by a very passionate customer base," he says.

    "They are the first to tell us when we get something right, and the first to tell us when we’ve got it wrong.

    "It’s great to have those passionate customers, because you do get feedback; it’s not as though you have this huge passive audience that a lot of brands get."

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    Still looks like arse though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by UZZ31 View Post
    Still looks like arse though...
    Yep. Getting power out of these was never the issue.

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    I liked the move to a hatch as I just don't particularly sedans, but to see them screw it up so badly was amazing. I just couldn't bring myself to own one.

    The back of the sedan isn't too bad looking though, and is definitely what they needed to get the old market back. Maybe the next model will fix up the front.

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    I watched the british Top gear two nights ago and the STi vs Evo was on. The evo performed flawlessly and going into the corner faster than ferraris. The Sti on the other hand they didnt want to mention it. You could clearly see the Sti understeering and sliding all over the place and spinning out. Sad indeed.

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    Suprisingly the times were similar!
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower." - Mark Donahue Penske Porsche 917

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsnotagsr View Post
    Suprisingly the times were similar!
    The GTR was cheating!

    Oh, wait.

    Looks like a turd, nothing can fix that. At least owning it means you cant see the outside of it when you drive it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsnotagsr View Post
    Suprisingly the times were similar!
    i don't wanna comment on the UK market given they have that FQ360 shit

    and the EVOs seem much more expensive than the STIs

    but here it's the 5 spd manual WRX $39,900 vs. the 6 spd auto Ralliart at $42k

    the WRX would waste the Ralliart pretty much everywhere but you're gonna work at it with the 5 spd

    neither one is 'better' - rather which one suits the buyer
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    They were released at the Sydney motorshow 2 months ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by UZZ31 View Post
    Still not as fugly as the bugeye though...
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    just saw the sedan in parramatta

    it makes the hatch look good!

    surly that wasnt possible

    and ive had 3 beers so it should have helped

    but noooooooooooooooooo

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    Where is the sedan picture? I can't see it.
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    It's not in the article for some reason.

    http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/0/s/k/su...5ised_rear.jpg

    That's a good shot of the rear.

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    Cars are still coming from the factory with under 200kw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckerbox View Post
    It's not in the article for some reason.

    http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/0/s/k/su...5ised_rear.jpg

    That's a good shot of the rear.
    Hmmm....
    Makes me think of a Hyundai Accent butt or something....

    I think it looks better than the hatch though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jambo View Post


    Sir, your Accordi-Kia-roo has arrived
    Yes! Kia Rio

    Thats what it reminds me of
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    That boot looks far too small for a giant box wing?
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    Could the wheels be any gayer?
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    Its like when you see a hot chicks nasty looking mum, you know back in the day she was a stunner then she got old and had a face lift and then had to have another one to fix the last one after the doctor botched the first job.
    So now she just looks like some kind of deep sea monster.

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    That sedan sucks balls and way more than the hatch which I thought was unpossible!!! Mechanical by Japan - design by Korea?
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    it's one of those classic designs where the fronts look like 16s and the backs look like 14s
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    if it performed well maybe they would have a leg to stand on, but compared to the evo and other similar sports cars, subaru seems to have lost it's way with these cars.

    i remember seeing them (previous models) on best motoring atleast putting on a show against the gtr and evo.

    now, they are always at the back just understeering off the road, haha.

    hell even the fwd vw's beat them in most track tests.

    190kw why why why

    just make it 206kw for marketing reasons, jap performance cars had this power 10 years ago as standard, yet the wrx is no doubt heavier and doesn't even match it today.

    give the sti 240 or so to match/better the evo power, give the sales people something to talk about to potential customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB30-POWER View Post
    if it performed well maybe they would have a leg to stand on, but compared to the evo and other similar sports cars, subaru seems to have lost it's way with these cars.

    i remember seeing them (previous models) on best motoring atleast putting on a show against the gtr and evo.

    now, they are always at the back just understeering off the road, haha.

    hell even the fwd vw's beat them in most track tests.

    190kw why why why

    just make it 206kw for marketing reasons, jap performance cars had this power 10 years ago as standard, yet the wrx is no doubt heavier and doesn't even match it today.

    give the sti 240 or so to match/better the evo power, give the sales people something to talk about to potential customers.
    What are you on about?
    This is the base model WRX... it now has 18kW more than the Ralliart lancer and O/S tests have the updated WRX very close to the STi as far as acceleration goes. Completely blitzes the Ralliart Lancer (same price bracket)

    If you watched Top Gear the other night you would have seen that a WRX STI will lap their track faster than the seemingly almighty EVOX.

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    if you held a gun to my head i'd probably take a WRX sedan over a Ralliart Lancer

    the simple fact of the matter is it's 4.7 vs 7.3 secs 0-100

    the lancer turned out way softer than expected

    the wrx turned out to be what a wrx is
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    Quote Originally Posted by T0nyGTSt View Post
    the wrx turned out to be what a wrx is
    Agreed. I think Subaru have pretty much followed the same design/performance spec for all of the WRX's, and for good reason - it works. They have never been the most attractive cars, but they are pretty damn quick, reliable, and great value which is why every model has sold well despite their love/hate nature. The competition is catching up but the WRX is still the class leader and unless the other manufacturers do something spectacular instead of just imitating it, that’s how things will stay.


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    Subaru and Alfa Romeo should be forced to merge

    Theyre like the yin and yang of the car world

    One is style and no substance

    The other is substance with no style
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    They tried that with the pig nose grille on the last model Tribeca. I'm fairly sure an Alfa guy did the design actually. He just flipped his last grille upside down and knocked the rest of the car up in 5 minutes. Voila - instant shitheap.

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