Supra (2JZA61) daily project - Its alive... its ALIVE!

[takai]

After much umming and aaahing about 5minutes really i snapped up a Supra in Wangaratta for use as a project daily/weekend thrasher/khana/other car, similar to what Clive has his R32 for, but for the things i cant be bothered or cant take out the race car for.

Thanks to some great kindness on the part of morerevsm3 on PF, who offered to transport it over from Wangaratta to Adelaide for free, it arrived today, and i finally got to see what sort of a basket case my $500 got me.

Oh and the hillarity of getting into the drivers seat to back it off the trailer and suddenly facing the roof was all good. Oh and going to steer and finding out that the steering wheel wasnt bolted on, we got it into the driveway. After chatting all the afternoon (much to the consternation of my wife) i pushed it into the carport, and had a quick squiz.



Importantly no rust in the tailgate, they are always prone for rusting there. No idea how this one survived without it.


Interior in the car, well sort of. All in boxes. Interestingly enough this car still has an uncracked dash and good door trims... IN BLACK. Which is about as rare as hens teeth.


I wonder why it doesnt run, thats high on the agenda.


Oh and the Simmons, which will be going on the race car soon.

All in all its not bad for the money i paid, need to assemble the interior, and refit the fuel tank (since its sitting in the boot), but im not going to complain much at all, especially as most local people wanted $3k for stuff with rust in it.
The "big" problem is the engine, as i cant just slap the 2JZ in it and take it anywhere near regency. Instead what ill have to do is put a 5ME back into it, and then get it registered before putting the 2JZ into it. All a good excuse to sort out the suspension and other bits.

List of things to do are:

1. Refit interior of supra
2. Rebuild engine
3. Pass regency
4. Otomoto coilover kit for the front
5. R33/BA brake upgrade
6. VP rear shocks
7. SW20 front shocks
8. 6kg front and 4kg rear springs
9. Sort suspension
10. 2JZ VVTi

I have a 2JZGE VVTi waiting in the wings for it when i finally get it sorted. Should be a good ride.

[carcrazy]

Fuck that car has been hit with a lot of hate hasnt it... Looks like a fun project, should keep you busy for a little while.

[rob_2JZA61]

tak my mate has a running 5m-e(from an ma61) here in sydney u can take away for a case if your willing to transport. only has a few missing nuts and bolts used in his 7m-ge conversion.

saves u spending a cent on that boat anchor.

[takai]

Fuck that car has been hit with a lot of hate hasnt it... Looks like a fun project, should keep you busy for a little while.

Not really, it was a parts car at some point, so a lot of stuff has been swapped around. Ill wait until its daylight to find out just how much has been swapped. If at some point it turns out to be more of a basket case than i had thought then ill simply cut my losses and take the Simmons, LSD and W58 gearbox and run.

tak my mate has a running 5m-e(from an ma61) here in sydney u can take away for a case if your willing to transport. only has a few missing nuts and bolts used in his 7m-ge conversion.

saves u spending a cent on that boat anchor.

Hoping to find one for a case in Adelaide, Syd is a long drive for one.

[takai]

So before i hustled off to work today i spent about 15mins ripping out the interior of the car. Not particularly hard when its all unbolted and just sitting there.
The pile of bits which came out looks like this:



Stripped out car like so:




All in all very damn good, really not overly concerned about it being a complete headache anymore. Only a mild one

Pretty much everything was all neatly boxed up and sitting in chinese food containers or icecream boxes, neatly labeled so that i know where they go. So now i have eleventy billion little containers with "Glovebox screws" and the like on them, all of which contain the same screws


Only things which i really found were something, probably oil, spilled in the passenger side:


A bit of surface rust in the spare tyre well, which is pretty normal.


And a cat or something has had its way with the roof lining:


Other than those things most of the interior can go back together relatively easily. Ill give the carpets a good wash, and maybe try to dye them black before they go back in, and everything else should just go back in easily. Im considering getting some dry ice to take out all the sound deadening, especially that nasty tar stuff, but im not sure if i can be bothered at this point.

Other things in the car apart from the interior are a little worse:

Engine is completely seized, even the breaker bar with a 3m exhaust tube extension couldnt budge it. Ohwell, time to find a new one for a case or something.
Its also missing a tailshaft, which i should be able to get at a wrecker or something, and i couldnt find the locknut key in any of the little boxes, which was a big bummer. Not sure if i can get one from a tyre shop or if i am going to have to weld a normal nut to each of the locknuts and go from there...

Not overly keen on welding as they are quite nice rims

On the upside of it all the fuel tank is already out:

Which means i wont skimp on putting a decent fuel pump in it now

Edit: oh yeah, i almost forgot. I found that there is absolutely no engine number stamped anywhere on the body, which makes re-registering it a lot easier with another engine.

Interestingly as well it was also silver at some point, the red is exterior only.

[Gammaboy]

12 point socket of a close-ish size, hammered on over the lugnut will do the job. Been there, done that.

[takai]

12 point socket of a close-ish size, hammered on over the lugnut will do the job. Been there, done that.

Yeah, i had already tried that, just slips off. The lugnut is old and a bit rusty and soft.

[Gammaboy]

Yeah, i had already tried that, just slips off. The lugnut is old and a bit rusty and soft.

Pick a smaller socket!

[takai]

Nothing between 11 and 10mm or 7/16 and 3/8. 10mm and 3/8 dont fit over the center lump.

[Gammaboy]

There's your problem. hammer a bigger socket over the outside diameter of it...

[Potsy]

A socket + a rag will work fine.

[takai]

Oh, over the outside of the lugnut, didnt think about that one.

[takai]

Bingo, over the outside and its all out.

[carcrazy]

Nice work...

Cant wait to see how this turns out...

[takai]

In a probably completely vain effort to create a thread which will rival Babs' Hako thread im going to document nigh on everything that im doing.
All in all ill probably fail.

After cleaning up the BIG pile of parts and sorting them into the shelves in the garage space which the car will occupy (probably on the weekend when i can call on some other grunt to get the car maneuvered in, i started on the rust.

Remember this rust in the spare tyre well:


Well Mr Rust, meet Mr Rust Converter

In this case in a wanky bottle called RustBuster.

Simply splash some onto a rag and wipe over all the rusted surfaces, allow to dry and a little while later it looks like this:

No rust left.

A little application of rattlecan silver and voila:


Yeah, i was sick today, couldnt be bothered doing much else, over the weekend ill get the car shifted in next to the race car and start looking at suspension and maybe pulling out the dead 5ME.

[Marco_VESS]

Interestingly as well it was also silver at some point, the red is exterior only.

Yeah I was wondering about that, on first glance at those stripped interior shots I was wondering if for some reason Toyota didn't paint anything that couldn't be seen

Not that a car company would ever do a thing like that. Exhibit A: the undercoated, but not actually painted, underside of my VE's parcel shelf...they literally only painted the bits you can see without sticking your head in the boot.

[carcrazy]

haha is that wheel silver?

[Asteroid]

Good start to the project. Needs more 7M-GTE.

[takai]

haha is that wheel silver?

Huh, im confused. What wheel?
Next thing ill probably do is put the car into the garage and pull the engine out, see what the gearbox is like and stuff as well as degreasing the engine bay. All of that can wait until the weekend.

[carcrazy]

Huh, im confused. What wheel?
Next thing ill probably do is put the car into the garage and pull the engine out, see what the gearbox is like and stuff as well as degreasing the engine bay. All of that can wait until the weekend.

wheel silver is shiny silver paint typically used on commodore chaser wheels etc.

[takai]

Oh, no. Its the cheapo "Fiddly Bits" silver which you can get from bunnings, all of $3 a can*. Got matte black for the cage and interior of the race car only to find its really more of a semigloss...

*so realistically Lisbeff wheel silver

[takai]

In my search around for wheels for the car i have come across these:


Thoughts?

[Asteroid]

They look decent, would suit the period of the car.

[Sketchy]

I approve. Well done mate, and yes those wheels should look the goods.

[takai]

Thanks sketchy.

Im now considering ditching 4stud entirely, and going to a 5stud setup. Although getting nice meshy 16" rims in 5stud might be just as hard.

[aaron_hogan]

close up pic of mag wheel lock-nut?

Can PF come to the rescue???

I reckon i might have one that would fit that if its the shape i think. If so i will post it over if you will post it back?

[takai]

Its already off aaron, the hammer on a 12pointer worked a treat. Ill take a picture of how it came off though if you want :P

[takai]

I had a bit of time on my hands tonight, so i wrote out a complete spec of how the car will probably end up:

Drivetrain
2JZGE VVTi
Lightweight Flywheel
HD Clutch
F-series LSD
Stock Rad, AU falcoon fans
Oil cooler

Front Suspension and Brakes
MX83 Cressida struts, steering arms and hubs
R33 GTST Calipers
BA Falcon rotors
GH Sigma LCAs
RA40 tierod ends and tubes
SW20 Rear Shocks (AGX or ExcelG)
Otomoto Coilover kit, with 6kg springs
S13 cambertops
Modified S13 strut brace

Rear Suspension and Brakes
MS123 hubs
Unsure on brakes, maybe R33 again
Ford Focus Rear AGX, or VB-VP Commonwhore ExcelG
Aurora rear springs 4kg/mm
Rear harness/tower bar

Interior
MP3 USB Headunit
6x9s in the rear "doors"
Otomoto Steering Wheel
Celica manualised climate control
Carpet (maybe from Knox)
AC removed
Celica analog dash
Maybe an alarm

Thats about it, not an overly complex setup, but only parts from 14 different cars involved Hope to pick up some of those parts on the weekend.

[vet 180]

nice. I have one of these with a mildly worked 7mgte in it and yes it had rust in the tailgate, got a new tailgate and now there is rust in that lol

[takai]

nice. I have one of these with a mildly worked 7mgte in it and yes it had rust in the tailgate, got a new tailgate and now there is rust in that lol

Yeah the rust in the tailgate is a normal thing. Just be glad it doesnt look like this:


Thats what a US guy paid US$500 for. Damn im glad with my purchase