FT-86 to be named FR-S...

[rj_astra]

Official BRZ pricing
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/c...713-2213z.html

Subaru is also offering the BRZ at a driveaway price that includes free scheduled servicing for the first three years or 60,000 kilometres.
The BRZ comes in at just one level, coincidentally or not, very close to the Toyota 86 GTS. The BRZ six-speed manual is priced at a no more- to-pay $37,150, with the six-speed automatic another $2580

Direct comparisons with the 86 pricing are difficult. The Toyota price doesn’t include registration, stamp duty and dealer delivery, which add about $3500, while even with Toyota’s fixed-price servicing (at $170 a service) there’s another $680 during the first three years of ownership (service intervals are nine months).

Factor all that in and the 86 GTS is about $2400 more than the Subaru, but the Toyota also gets satnav and leather/heated seats – the latter pairing a $1500 option on the BRZ. So we’re talking about ... well, not a lot in terms of differentiation. Except for image, branding, customer loyalty and that bold online sales approach.

[noobd]

moar

This. It should go well at Gatebil, with its 2JZ and all.

[smellytofu]

So rumours circulating earlier in the week were right.

Free servicing. Wow. There's a first for Subaru.

[rj_astra]

So rumours circulating earlier in the week were right.

Seems so, the spec level looks good. Nice interior without the dodgey satnav and artificial suede seats

[smellytofu]

That's your choice. I prefer not having a potential head smacking device hanging off the windscreen.

[ironhorse]

Official BRZ pricing
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/c...713-2213z.html



Direct comparisons with the 86 pricing are difficult. The Toyota price doesn’t include registration, stamp duty and dealer delivery, which add about $3500, while even with Toyota’s fixed-price servicing (at $170 a service) there’s another $680 during the first three years of ownership (service intervals are nine months).

Factor all that in and the 86 GTS is about $2400 more than the Subaru, but the Toyota also gets satnav and leather/heated seats – the latter pairing a $1500 option on the BRZ. So we’re talking about ... well, not a lot in terms of differentiation. Except for image, branding, customer loyalty and that bold online sales approach.

I thought it was law now that manufacturers must advertise the driveaway pricing ...remember only a few years ago everything was (+orc) Toyota are advertising pricing before onroads ? I noticed the cheapest one on carsales was about $37k for a GT auto.

[UZZ31]

Toyota website is like any other manufacturer in AUS... You put in your postcode and it tells you driveaway price?

[TonyJZX]

if you wanna be up with what the cool kids have you'd get a double din Android 4 solid state head unit (ie. it has no music cd drive)

this would kill all your GPS and media needs dead (unless you are Forg and need a CD)

its an 86... you need to keep up with the hipsters

[ironhorse]

oh yeah it does , so the $29990 is all a bullshit headline , its actually $34190 driveaway for the base model manual and $39855 for the gts.

[Asteroid]

I didn't think anyone really bothers with rrp prices anyway. It's nice that you can get an on-road price easily without dealing with a sales drone these days.

I am pleasantly surprised the BRZ is competitively priced (but still prefer the 86).

[MZ21]

This a pretty good thing actually. So basically you can get the 86/brz in three trim levels. If the gt is too basic then go for a brz. Want all the bling up front get a gts.

[CXTdreamer]

Oh no


I went around the corner to the massive Toyota dealership to have a look at one, fully expecting that I wouldn't fit in it headroom-wise (Don't fit in NSX, DR30, MX5, barely fit in Aristo/Chaser/Liberty/5 Series/Merc GL, had to get VR6 seats with adjustable rails to fit in Golf etc)



I fit. Just.


And the two things that annoy me the most in cars, oil filters and alternators that are a pain in the arse to get to, are not problems with these things at all, they're both mounted right at the top of the engine bay


This could cause my hip pocket some pain...

[Cracka]

Subaru alternators are known to fail
They could put the alternator between 500 locked precious metal cages with barriers of aids, airborne duck vomit emitters and nazi slogans in bold font and noone would give a fuck because it just doesnt matter on a flat 4 with reliable shit.

Changing a timing belt or head gasket though? Fuck you subaru.

[Cracka]

That said if my black liberty sells...I'll be in the first manual BRZ I can get my hands on I think. Need to get a look at if the leather is worth it. Sat nav is definitely not.

[MRMOPARMAN]

shirley its wouldnt take an hour to pull an N/A subie motor out of the car? would make both jobs piss easy.

now a gearbox on the otherhand, thats 40 mins at least

[Jim]

i(unless you are Forg and need a CD player)

Get away. I doubt Forg would be involved in that moderm malarkey. He'd have to remove his car record player to fit one anyway.

[Jim]

^ I'm with stupid
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[MarkMash]

low mount turbo kit almost finished

[Cracka]

Odd place to mount it.

Edit: Not so odd considering not making new manifolds. Quite simple really.

And left hand drive? Give no fucks. Surprised it isnt mounted ontop of the boot spoiler.

[MarkMash]

yeah interesting, i think it's more to do with lower COG - not sure if the extra piping would add much more weight though... dyno run is on tuesday (USA) for it.

[Nero]

oh yay...a big air filter above the engine sucking in hot air to the turbo being cooled by water splashing up from the road...

[Monk]

This looks rather tough...

I think that just looks dumb to be honest. Hopefully it will look better with the big arse flares on it. It's like some 70's throwback where you just stick wide wheels on it and bugger the offset. Either that or it's a front wheel drive drag machine...

[MRMOPARMAN]

was it the taillights?

[Nero]

how tall are you?

Oh no


I went around the corner to the massive Toyota dealership to have a look at one, fully expecting that I wouldn't fit in it headroom-wise (Don't fit in NSX, DR30, MX5, barely fit in Aristo/Chaser/Liberty/5 Series/Merc GL, had to get VR6 seats with adjustable rails to fit in Golf etc)



I fit. Just.


And the two things that annoy me the most in cars, oil filters and alternators that are a pain in the arse to get to, are not problems with these things at all, they're both mounted right at the top of the engine bay


This could cause my hip pocket some pain...

[Nero]

how tall are you?

Oh no


I went around the corner to the massive Toyota dealership to have a look at one, fully expecting that I wouldn't fit in it headroom-wise (Don't fit in NSX, DR30, MX5, barely fit in Aristo/Chaser/Liberty/5 Series/Merc GL, had to get VR6 seats with adjustable rails to fit in Golf etc)



I fit. Just.


And the two things that annoy me the most in cars, oil filters and alternators that are a pain in the arse to get to, are not problems with these things at all, they're both mounted right at the top of the engine bay


This could cause my hip pocket some pain...

[noobd]

You probably won't fit. In the flesh, it looks about the same size as a new Corolla, but with 2 seats. Small little thing.

[craveae86]

I sat in one today.

I was quite comfortable and I am 6 ft 3

[craveae86]

Double

[craveae86]

I think that just looks dumb to be honest. Hopefully it will look better with the big arse flares on it. It's like some 70's throwback where you just stick wide wheels on it and bugger the offset. Either that or it's a front wheel drive drag machine...

Stolen from the 86 forums 2JZ Yo!

http://www.86forums.com.au/index.php...-project-86-x/

http://www.speedhunt...86-x-build-pt1/
http://www.speedhunt...86-x-build-pt2/
http://www.speedhunt...86-x-build-pt3/
http://www.speedhunt...86-x-build-pt4/

[myliberty]

2JZ 86?

Do not want.