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not the best looking oneOriginally Posted by TRD-RT81
97 vvti supra
Garret GTx3076R for sale brand new
Is there a build thread on that car? Just trying to get my head around exactly what theyve done there. I cant see how they avoided cutting the stock passenger side box xmember mounting point off.
Last edited by Mr Ed; 25-07-11 at 10:22 PM.
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looks to be a SHITLOAD of cutting incl firewall!
I really should get off my arse and roll my gearbox into my car....might do it tomorrow night and take some pics.
Doubt it'll need any firewall mods considering an A340e fits down there piss easy and here is my T56 with the bellhousing from one.
Last edited by Mr Ed; 25-07-11 at 10:43 PM.
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Oh sorry, THEY might have to cut the firewall.....LS1/T56 bellhousing is a fuckload bigger than what Im using.
"The trouble with quotes from the internet, is you can never tell if they're genuine."
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out of interest what did all the bits for the t56 cost? Obviously you have not done the clutch yet. Shouldn't be hard to get a custom unit made? Should be able to do a 6 speed supra item to suit the t56 spline?
Geez we're a bunch of softcocks...we have a 911 and we're obsessing over non-functional ducts and indicator colours
A 6 speed 'seems' expensive but it comes with everything you need and fucking around with a t56 setup will be a similar cost to end up with something modified, other than something that was always perfect.
PS: LS1 is narrow, but a fucking long motor.
Uh?
4 cylinders long.
Box cost me $1,000 (fluke deal I found in the local classifieds), usually more like $1,500
Adapter plate cost $240
Bellhousing was sort of free (Worth maybe $50?)
Shifter will be ~$300 from the US
Tailshaft mods will probably be $300-500
Crossmember will be $20 worth of steel
Clutch/flywheel needs to be narrow to fit in the auto bellhousing, also needs to be push type so the only off-the-shelf things I could use would be a W58 package, re-splined to suit the T56. Im expecting to spend somewhere between $700-1500....will decide how much I wanna spend once I get some quotes/options.
So fairly cheap for what you get, alot more fucking around than an R154 though.
"The trouble with quotes from the internet, is you can never tell if they're genuine."
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V160 is spastic expensive and is still a PITA to fit. If you already had one in a JZA80, obviously keep it, but Id never bother using one in a custom install job as I dont like the V160 ratios either.
My T56 conversion will cost about $2k+ clutch. V160 would be $1,000 more.
Plus, if I break my T56 a rebuild is $1,800.
"The trouble with quotes from the internet, is you can never tell if they're genuine."
- Abraham Lincoln
to compare, this is what the 6spd getrag cost behind my 2jz
- box(integrated bellhousing) + fly + used stock clutch = $3200 would usually be $3500 or more
- custom tailshaft for ma61 (not far off what a ma70 one would be), 2 piece new centre bearing, has upgraded unis and integrated slip yoke in one section, $750 but should have been $1000 guy quoted low and wore it cause hes a champ.
i know its an ma61 and not the same, but it required cutting tunnel only, no issue with firewall.
Last edited by rob_2JZA61; 26-07-11 at 02:57 PM.
ma61 + 2jz-gte + v160 + 3.5 torsen
ohsdocs.com.au Safe Work Method Statements and other OH&S paperwork for builders and tradies, PF members PM me I'll do you a good deal.
could use these maybe ?
http://dirtydingo.com/store/American...3s650vmujmhj81
97 vvti supra
Garret GTx3076R for sale brand new
sure there is a thread here you go Mr Ed alot of usefull info in there
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...ySt-s-Build-up
97 vvti supra
Garret GTx3076R for sale brand new
5 Cylinders long but certainly nowhere near as long as a straight 6. Get rid of the stupid massive water pump and it's a lot shorter.
Old cable throttle LS1, single turbo, tune, 500hp atw. It is easier to get power from a turbo LS1 than a 2JZ. Capacity does that.
David Fraser - Automotive Historian!
I don't understand how a V8 is 5 cylinders long. It's 4 cylinders either side of the "V".
Are you saying it is the water pump that makes it as long as a normal 5 cylinder?
Looks like not a bad place to start but theyre still gonna need some work on the chassis side as an A70 mount is nothing like that.
Cheers, having a read now.
"The trouble with quotes from the internet, is you can never tell if they're genuine."
- Abraham Lincoln
Because the banks are staggered.
I'm saying that there are two types of water pump, one is a nugget, the other is less of a nugget.
Now go and have a cup of tea and a lie down.
David Fraser - Automotive Historian!
part number for non-nugget pump?
I've been offered a ls1 and t56 complete package with loom maffless tune for $4k. Is thus an ok price supposedly has 69000 kms. Another with auto box same k's for $3k
Or go auto 2j 2550 ?
97 vvti supra
Garret GTx3076R for sale brand new
Do you want a V8 or a 6?
The 2J will bolt in with the right sump and engine brackets, the LS will be custom.
The LS will be something different, the 6 will be same old same old but work, the car will still be worth fuck all with either engine. Power delivery will be quite different.
Edit : I am so helpful.
Last edited by JZK25; 27-07-11 at 07:14 PM.
David Fraser - Automotive Historian!
I reckon as far as budgets go:
Upto 350rwhp target = LS1
Upto 500rwhp target = 2JZ
Over 500rwhp target = LS1
Apart from that, LS1 has more rumble goodness, 2JZ is easier and still pretty cool. Neither is a unique job by any means these days.
"The trouble with quotes from the internet, is you can never tell if they're genuine."
- Abraham Lincoln
^^^Agreed.
David Fraser - Automotive Historian!
good deal for manualle!
lolwat?
Hater, More like 4.25 cylinders long.
And then..... cunts outta nowhere!
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add the block offset and the timing gear and water pump and they are a bit longer than the average 4 cyl. Still way shorter than a 7M/1/2J.
Cool project!
Your social better.
I kind of disagree with this. Well actually it depends. I agree If you are just talking engines and gearbox. But when considering all the custom crap you will need to put it into a ma70 I dont think an ls1 will be the best budget move. Also I think there will be problems with the bellhousing on the v8t56. You could maybe mount it further forward. Also might need custom headers which are serious coin.
I guess it is a little silly talking about it as if you want a budget manual ma70 with 350rwhp would be better to use a 7mgte or 1jz with w58. Well the 7m would be hard to beat budget wise i think.
Geez we're a bunch of softcocks...we have a 911 and we're obsessing over non-functional ducts and indicator colours
Perhaps, but really.....what kind of faggot builds a supra with a max 350rwhp target in mind?
"The trouble with quotes from the internet, is you can never tell if they're genuine."
- Abraham Lincoln
swede from queen st?!
hahaha to true. Couldn't have said it better myself
Geez we're a bunch of softcocks...we have a 911 and we're obsessing over non-functional ducts and indicator colours
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