Cracka's white boy shitbox Gen 3 Liberty. TT V6 wouldn't fit so now V12.

[bahaimus]

Is this finished yet so Al can start on the Bahaimus merc?

This car is no impediment to mine being done. Mine is booked in to start on March 12.

[CussCuss]

Speedflow fittings for vac lines! Jeebus!

[JZK25]

What happens if one(or two) 5/8th hoses blows off an inlet manifold on a map sensed 5l engine?

[myliberty]

What happens if one(or two) 5/8th hoses blows off an inlet manifold on a map sensed 5l engine?

danger to manifold?

[myliberty]

PS. nothing, because it's MAP sensed. trick question.

[TT]

What happens if one(or two) 5/8th hoses blows off an inlet manifold on a map sensed 5l engine?

We get to see cool photos of broken V12?

[noobd]

Forged engine?

[Cracka]

Most expensive basic rebuild ever. Robin would hate me

[TT]

Batmans friend Robin?

[JZK25]

Fucking noobs. The thing takes off and runs through Kindergarten fences(when not guardrail equipped) and kills babies. Massive vac leak on big torque engine with map sensor = large amounts of airflow. Does that explain it?

[myliberty]

no.

I need a practical demonstration.

[jzx83]

^
Or alcohol.

Or a demonstration while consuming alcohol.

Or a demonstration while both Az and the car consume alcohol.





PS My brain is no worky at the moment, but I think Al got the explanation wrong when he assumed that a guard rail would make any difference to this thing.
All I am getting in non working brain is that you would be either over or under fuelled, probably by a fair amount.

I prefer Al's explanation though.

[CussCuss]

Fucking noobs. The thing takes off and runs through Kindergarten fences(when not guardrail equipped) and kills babies. Massive vac leak on big torque engine with map sensor = large amounts of airflow. Does that explain it?

Each to their own etc. but I think a hose and screw clamp would be quite safe as it is for pretty much every factory car.

[myliberty]

depends how fast the computer is.

if a hose blows off under boost, it's a manifold leak and the map sensor will not give 2 fucks. Providing the turbos can flow enough, the only thing that will happen is the turbos will over spin and start making hot air, and it'll run rich and ping it's heads off no doubt.

if it's not on boost, then it will idle at 5000rpm but no children will be harmed

[myliberty]

either way, I'm going to inspect it on Saturday with a carton of bourbon and Dave and a dog and santa claus. My old man is driving so we'll be obnoxious and giggly for most of the day.

[MRMOPARMAN]

if it's not on boost, then it will idle at 5000rpm but no children will be harmed

it wont idle high, because the TPS is still reading low. it however will hunt like a cougars cunt

[MRMOPARMAN]

oh and on boost it wont go well and be rich as fuck, as it will have a mass boost leak.

so either way, no babies should be harmed in the making of awesomeness

[TT]

either way, I'm going to inspect it on Saturday with a carton of bourbon and Dave and a dog and santa claus. My old man is driving so we'll be obnoxious and giggly for most of the day.

Going up the following Saturday too?

[number8]

it wont idle high, because the TPS is still reading low. it however will hunt like a cougars cunt

it will idle high

oh and on boost it wont go well and be rich as fuck, as it will have a mass boost leak.

it wont be rich

[JZK25]

Each to their own etc. but I think a hose and screw clamp would be quite safe as it is for pretty much every factory car.

Every factory car with a map sensor and turbo will not have two 5/8" hoses hanging out of the manifold held on by screw clamps for this exact reason.
The car would do 100km'h with a 5/8" vacuum leak and no throttle.

[MRMOPARMAN]

Dont the ecus your using have a target rpm at idle? So if the tps is reading 0 and its getting too much air it would cut ign till it hits target and do it over and over (ie hunting)

[millsi]

Too much tech talk, not enough skids!

[myliberty]

Going up the following Saturday too?

negative, following Sat is Taurus weekend.

[myliberty]

Every factory car with a map sensor and turbo will not have two 5/8" hoses hanging out of the manifold held on by screw clamps for this exact reason.
The car would do 100km'h with a 5/8" vacuum leak and no throttle.

isn't this a moot point, because the hoses are already installed?

Less talking, more epic conversioning

[JZK25]

Dont the ecus your using have a target rpm at idle? So if the tps is reading 0 and its getting too much air it would cut ign till it hits target and do it over and over (ie hunting)

So when the clamped on hose blows off at full throttle and you back off because something broke only to find that your 5l V12 now has 400 square mm of air ingress and cannot return to idle do you think the ecu will account for that? Maybe I could put some microswitches on the hose clamps and if they blow off it will limit the throttle? Or I could use some $10 fittings and make it so they can't blow off.

Anyhoo, if the first thing you think when you open the bonnet of a white 2000 GX liberty and find a twin turbo V12 in there is "I wouldn't have used dash 12 speedflow for that balance chamber", you are surely fucked in the head.

[JZK25]

isn't this a moot point, because the hoses are already installed?

Less talking, more epic conversioning

More paying bills and taking an interest will = more epic conversioning.

[Gassed250]

Speedflow fittings for vac lines! Jeebus!

The vac hose to my brake booster is a screw on AN -6

[CussCuss]

I got one of them too, either side of it has spring clamps though, so even less secure than screw clamps

As I said, I love the build, I think its epic, some of Als work is even sitting in my car and its top notch of course, was just a passing comment thats all, opinions will always vary.

[JZK25]

As long as it's understood that it's not there for looks then. Everything else is home made out of pipe, trailer plugs, milk crates and receiver driers.

[CussCuss]

Yeah I get that, I guess I have a little more faith in normal fitings