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    Project Bonneville - Cafe Racer ..sorta

    So about a year ago, I picked up this 03 Hinkley built bonneville as my first registered bike. Ive had others before that were either unregistered, or shit..a pair of cbr250rr's, a Honda cb100 and various dirt bikes over the years, so I had a fair idea of what I liked to ride and what I didn't. After listening to Jeff Lang / Keith Thompson's "1952 Vincent Black lightning" way too many times, I was set in my mind that I wanted something old, or at least old styled, had to be carbies, and preferably english. Found the Bonneville at a dealer not too long after this, paid what in hindsight was probably a little too much, and proceeded home to promptly remove the homemade saddlebags and rack some old codger had slapped on there.



    For the first few weeks, you couldnt keep me off of it, and i left it pretty well alone other than the normal maintanance, a new battery, and leaning the bars back a fraction. Problem is, at this stage I only had my learners permit, and the bike is not on the LAMS list. after a few too many close calls, I called it quits, parked the bike up and went and did my Q-Ride. Its been sitting in the garage ever since, and knowing my full licence is now only a couple of months away, Im getting itchy.

    So. Here is the bike as of last week as a stocker



    First thing I did was try a mod that was free, and relatively simple. Flipped the handlebars to give it a much lower feel, and removed the mirrors.




    Two issues here though. With the handlebars in this configuration, they hit on the tank before reaching full lock, and the bar end mirrors I have are for 7/8th" bars. I could use some 1" risers from www.newbonneville.com, but decided against it. Instead, I've ordered some 1" x 36" wide drag bars meant for a Harley Davidson. I figure if theyre too wide, I can cut them down to where i want them, and hide any ugliness from cutting with handlegrips and bar end mirrors. If it looks shit altogether, who gives a fuck, they only cost me 30 bucks and I'll go back to square one. this pic i found makes me think it should work out pretty nicely though.



    other option im considering are Bella Course "Superbars" which are a little more upright, and may be a bit more comfortable for the long highway trips most of my riding will be on. There are no corners in Townsville. I swear this place was planned with a map, some tracing paper and set square.

    One of the main problems I have at the moment that has been there since i got the bike is all this corrosion on some of the alloy bits.






    It really drags down the look of the bike so I'd like to clean it up if possible, but don't really know where to begin. failing that, does anyone know where I can find replacement engine side covers?


    the other corrosion issue i have is here on the chrome shock assemblies. I could try and clean it up the chrome, and spray the springs black since they fit my plans for the bike, but these are chrome, not polished, so it may end up easier to simply replace them altogether with newies that already have the black springs. They are most likely the original 9 year old struts anyway

    I have removed the side covers, both front and rear fenders, the battery and started to remove the battery box, hoping to end up with a result like this. I still need to source some pod filters, and make a bracket to support the carbies



    as far as batteries go, I will still need one to start it since the newer bonnies have no kick starter. At the moment im looking into LifePo4 setups using drill batteries stored under the seat, nice and slim and out of view, allowing me to keep the old school open look. This is the set up i will be basing mine on, and the more i read about it the less I understand why its not more commonplace. http://www.triumphrat.net/club-cafe/...batteries.html



    It will take alot of wiring tidy up, but the end result should be worth it. I also want to take the opportunity to relocate these to under the seat. Ugly shit can stay off the front of my bike, thanks.





    the exhaust is also pretty ugly, so I've ripped it off to see what i can do to clean it up, but I actually really like the look of no mufflers at all, and to be honest, the mufflers are so useless that there is any barely a volume difference. the bike is usually pretty loud and crackly anyway. Im thinking i may end up leaving them off and doing the pipes in a white pipe wrap.



    As far as fenders go, im in QLD. apparently we are the #1 state for police being anal about fender eliminators, so im trialing an idea of using the front fender on the back, as it hugs the wheel nicely, and being black, gives the illusion at first glance of there being no fender at all. Will obviously require some bracketry, but Im chasing opinions on the idea here first as to wether its worth pursuing or not. if it ends up looking shit i think i'll just risk it. The front fender i think will ever run without one at all, or a chopped one, depending on QLD legalities again.



    Also had this rock up today, 19T front sprocket as opposed to the stock 17t..should stop me constantly reaching for the non-existant 6th gear on the highway.



    so here is the bike as it sits. Future plans are for a few billet or aluminum bits and peices here and there such as headlight brackets, chain gaurds, sprocket covers etc etc. I will update this thread as I get move on. eventually. probably not.



    Ideas / thoughts?
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    Cool bike! As far as cafe racers go, I have an SR400 cafe style bike.

    Firstly the riding position is pretty uncomfortable for long rides. Bear this in mind before you mod your bars too much.

    As for the rear fender, the SR trick is to cut the rear fender off at the front end and move it forward under the seat. That way the back end still looks stock, but is much shorter.

    Keep the battery! I have the battery eliminator on my SR and kick starting can be a pain at times. It gets old quickly! hahaha
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    I have no kick start anyway, the lifepo4 setup allows it to run pretty much exactly the same as a stock setup, but every so often i will need to hook up a balancer to make sure the cells are evenly charged. If the handlebars dont work out, i may even go the other way for a flat tracker style bar setup. see how I go
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    i think you'll find the stuff with corrosion will polish up - maybe then put a clear coat on it?

    there was a thread on here about polishing - maybe worth looking up?

    love the look of that union jack on the back with the rear guard off
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    they look unfinished with no mufflers

    I thought these things were EFI and the carbs were just throttle bodies?

    You got a Pommy made one, nice work.
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    Have you ridden it with the new sprocket yet? Going up two teeth on the front is gonna make a huge difference to acceleration.

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    not yet, but im far more interested in a lower rpm at highway speeds than initial acceleration anyway. Most of my riding is on the highway. if its too much ill drop back to an 18 tooth..sprockets are only 30 bucks. The new ones are carb-look throttle bodies, and are built in thailand. this is one of the last of the Hinckley built, Carbied model.

    yeah im not really digging the no mufflers too much now either. will see what i can do to spruce up my current mufflers, or even replace them with something a little more 60's.
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    You are like some sort of car rapist, Sticking things where they don't belong, and often don't fit nicely

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    [QUOTE=Crais ?;841382672

    yeah im not really digging the no mufflers too much now either. will see what i can do to spruce up my current mufflers, or even replace them with something a little more 60's.[/QUOTE]


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    well thats different....how do they work though?
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    Buy some autosol metal polish from repco and some rust remover (rainex) from bunnings. Spray the rusty bits with the rust remover, then wipe over them with fine steel wool to remove the surface rust. It'll come right off. Then go over it all with the autosol and a rag. works awesomely!

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    that side cover looks pretty scratched up, you might need to sand it with sandpaper to remove the scratches, then polish it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crais ? View Post
    well thats different....how do they work though?
    Google supertrapp, add or remove discs to change the noise levels.

    Went to a bike show here a few weeks back and lots of SR based cafe's were running them and they looked pretty sweet.

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    look up electrolytic rust removal to do the shocks, meant to work very well for surface rust on chrome, i have used it on steel and it works a treat, and requires next to no effort.
    yep

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    Nice Trumpet.


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    well it finally happened, today i discovered that i do not in fact own the only triumph in history without oil leaks. seems to be leaking from behind the front sprocket.
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    For the rusty bits

    Go to Bunnings, ask for Oxalic acid. Chance are you get some dipshit who has no idea. So ask where the industrial cleaning section is (where the hydrochloric acid is).

    Grab a 2kg bottle (its a white bottle like a big round milk bottle) of powder. The brand is Diggers.


    Next you need a plastic container to make the solution. They recommend 100g acid to 1L water, but i used 100g to 1.5-2L water and it worked well. I reckon go even thinner as its hard to get the stuff off when it sets in nooks and crannies.

    I used a 60l tub filled about half full. Always add the powder to the water (not sure why, its just what others have said)

    Mix it up and drop in ONLY chrome parts. no alloy or other metal as it will either eat it or make it look like crap.

    Here's one at the start.
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    and after a few days

    http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/w...tz/bratz25.jpg

    I found a difference after about 6 hours when you should pull the parts out and give them a wipe over.
    Use soft dishwashing scourers to remover excess. You don't want to scratch the chrome further.

    The bath will only remove rust and not fully refurbish the chrome. pitting and flakes will still be present.


    SAFETY!!!!!!

    Use gloves and best if you wear eye protection. one splash of this stuff and you could lose an eye! Seriously, it ain't worth the risk! I had a few splashes before I thought I'd better do the right thing.



    Before
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    After
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    Once you've finished, pull the parts out and clean them up with water. Use a water dispersant like WD-40 (I prefer Inox as its not a degreaser like WD and will protect against rust) inside tubing.
    Then pull out the polish and rags and get to it. I used a Meguiars metal polish with a coating that helps keep the finish longer and resist rust.
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    Awesome stuff Brasher.

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    whoa epic post. will give it a go for sure. thanks
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    Never heard of that stuff before, seems to get the job done.


    I dare say you shouldn't add water to the acid as most acids react rather badly when mixed with water. If you put a couple drops of water into the acid it'd probably blow up in your face. The other way round it should be a fairly mild reaction.


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    Craig although I don't like the bike much I do like the pipes much, I rekon one or both would look ok on the Bonnie


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    my mags had surface rust exactly like that bike frame and i used my technique mentioned above, it worked just as well but only took 2 minutes. Fuck messing around with acid and shit! how are you gunna dispose of it when you're done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stockymcstock View Post
    my mags had surface rust exactly like that bike frame and i used my technique mentioned above, it worked just as well but only took 2 minutes. Fuck messing around with acid and shit! how are you gunna dispose of it when you're done?

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    My mate's Bonneville.









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    So when did triumph production switch from the UK to Asia?
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    2004 / 05 i think? somewhere around there when the 850's were released

    Cal, ive been salivating over that bike for ages. being an older looking bike, does he cop much grief for the fender eliminator?
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    So what progress on this Trumpy have you made since I typed this post Craig?

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    started sanding back the engine and chain covers for polishing, got a fair bit of the rust off the shocks and watched my mailbox for my drag bars. havent had time for much else, been too busy whinging about working in the FUCKING RAIN FUCKING FUCK STOP ALREADY
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    I have an SR400 cafe style bike and matching Douche Machina t-shirt
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    tell us what you really think about Deus Boxer...
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    i'm upset i lost that video of that aboriginal woman taking a dump on a train that was on youtube
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    Sorry, am late to this thread. I have been protesting against whitey oppressors all morning with my people. I shall serenade this thread with my didge until nash comes in and puts it all into perspective.

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    looking good -got to love a cafe racer .
    one thing though - that finned thingy you put under the seat is the regulator -

    Generally - they put them up front to keep cool with the air flow around them - may not be so good for them under the seat with no air.

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