Mrs is looking for a new car to replace out Honda Odyssey.
She does over 1000km's per week, so need to be good on fuel and maint.
She currently like the Mazda CX5 Diesel & VW Tiguan Diesel.
Do the mazda's have any issues/problems with their diesels, or are they sorted?
How would we know... its a new diesel engine and auto combo.Originally Posted by Turbo 351
bmw x3 not an option?
Having owned a tiguan, and driven the Mazda, I would go Tiguan any day. The just drive that much better. It's a proven combo which works well imo.
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didnt you have a bit of a headfuck with yours?
Two weeks until the Mazda diesel cx-5 is here
isnt the x3 double the price.. i really like the look of the mitsu asx but the idiots dont make the diesel in an auto
everytime you masterbate god kills a skyline.
is a Tiguan any bigger inside then a Golf?
How about second hand A4 diesel mate (if you prefer a diesel). Otherwise I would look at an Accord Euro, Aurion, etc for a reliable family run-about.
How did you manage that? There are no CX-5 Diesels here yet? The review in Cars Guide said the CX-5 (petrol) easily the best in class. They said they cant wait for the diesel.
Nissan CumQuat? Seem pretty cheap.
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The cheapest diesel CX5 is $40K. Top spec is $50K+ In other words they are aiming at the Tiguan market.
Drove a CX5 last month pre-release.
The CX5 feels like you are driving an enormous 4WD. Only problem is it's a small 4WD. That killed it for me instantly. Leather seats and dash were good.
I had a 2L turbo Tig for 10mths and loved it. Fantastic car, feels like a small 4WD unlike the CX5. interior isn't as nice as the CX5 IMO. I was getting 7.5L/100km out of the Tig with my daily 100km commute. 50/50 peak traffic and country road.
I'd choose the Tig.
Sorry, I drove the petrol version. Steering was crap, and handled lamely. I really expected more from Mazda. Unless they improved things in the CX5 diesel, I wouldn't't personally go there.
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These guys say different
http://www.carsales.com.au/reviews/2...l-launch-28991
"Steering the CX-5 is a pleasure. The car is easy to place and the rack quick enough to allow the driver more chance to enjoy the breadth of handling available.
Turn-in is sharp, the car settling to the rear, while tending to modest oversteer only when backing off the throttle mid-corner. Even in front-wheel drive variants we never found ourselves short of control."
mmm, they must be a little more tolerant. Tiguan is far sharper and feels a whole lot firmer on the road, feels much smaller than it really is.
Bottpom line is, drive both and go with what you prefer. They will both cost the same
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... or they are "press", so had a "press car" unlke the one you drove (what you drove being what you get if you buy one).
Mind you every demo new car I've ever been involved in test-driving we've had to go to a servo to fill the tyres properly; dealers seem to think the most important thing is squishy-tyred comfort, not an actual feel of control ...
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carsales is frankly, full of dick
"The downside to all this “Zoom Zoom”, as Mazda would put it, is that the car ultimately wants for more torque. The engine, whilst smooth and happy to rev, just doesn’t offer enough gumption for hilly highway cruising, and it can struggle with overtaking maneuvres"
Do they buying public really worry about mid corner steering feel on a daily basis? Or is off the lights performance more important?
The comparible Tiguan models thump the CX5 as far as performance goes.
Last edited by rj_astra; 07-03-12 at 05:36 PM.
I reckon most of the buyers will care more about the economy nowadays. By the sounds of it the new skyactive engines are a little strange to drive but have great economy.
Most buyers will probably get the diesel, so performance will be fine anyway. My 2010 mazda 6 diesel has heaps of grunt (400nm) and im sure the new engines are better again.
That's all well and good but, a Mazda rep recently said in the Australian press that economy wasn't the major factor in a buyers mind when purchasing. Seems at odds with the endless economy chatter about the CX5.
The diesel may be fine for performance but it's WAY more expensive than a petrol model.
Well the biggest bugbear with the CX-7 was its economy. Everyone complained about it and it hurt sales. The CX-7 is actually a good drive.
I reckon Mazda were worried about economy of the previous models and that will be their biggest marketing point. Isn't that what Skyactive is all about?
A couple of thousand price difference for the diesel isn't that much over the life of car. Personally I wouldn't buy a petrol car as a daily nowadays.
but it isn't just a few thousand.
The cheapest petrol version is 30K on road (FWD manual). The cheapest diesel is 40K on road (AWD auto, mid range).
Judging by that MAzdas people buy (Mazda 3 base spec Neo) I would say that most buyers will gravitate to the cheaper base spec auto petrol CX5.
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