Where do you find diesel 80 Series for under ten grand? The only ones I ever find are factory turbo diesel that arseholes want $20,000+ for! "But it's a diesel!" Fuck off cunt, no cunt wanted the things when they were brand new but because everyone faps themselves stupid over diesels now days cunts think they're worth squillions.
Originally Posted by MR 1JZ
Ok so went and had a look at this thing for educational purposes - actually surprised me on how good it was. Drove nice, gearbox was quite, everything worked. Slow as fark though and I can see why it would be heavy on the juice. The clutch was almost done so I passed on it but was good to have something for comparison purposes. Now I'm leaning towards scraping a few extra dollars together and getting a 91-94ish Turbo Diesel Hilux. There seems to be an abundance of Surfs around ( 4 clylinder ) and for around $6k-$7k there are a few 6's. So how slow would the 4 cylinder Turbo Diesel be?
Not to sound like a hater but I'd avoid Surf's also. They can be a good thing when you get a good one, but so many have engine troubles. Prone to cracking heads, injector pumps have issues, mechanically strong other than the engine.
Pathfinder
Daw park SA $5200 230k
Last edited by GTREA; 16-03-12 at 05:51 PM.
Pathfinder>Surf.
Surf has four grenade items; head, injectors, pump, turbo ( same for diesel delica). Actually that's the same for pretty much every 10+ year old turbo diesel. Each one is over a grand. Who wants the stress of it all. We bought a petrol delica cause we don't do many kays and the thirst is no big deal and I am happy not stressing about the turbo shitting or the head going.
Op seems like hes decided on a diesel.. With good reason.
For the money you cant go past a td pajero. Mid 90s or later if possible
If you go Pajero as MrMoparman said they went 4M40 in about 1994, if you want to avoid turbo diesel, why I don't know, the base GL Pajero had the N/A 4M40, part time transfer case and rear leaf springs, but are pretty rare because only fleets bought them. The later SOHC 3.5 V6 isn't a bad unit, the DOHC 3.5 is a ripper but thirsty and needed PULP. Avoid any Pajero V6 converted to LPG, seen too many issues with them when they were new, least of which being where the tanks have to go.
If you're looking at Hiluxs now the MK Triton wasn't a bad unit, early diesels used the N/A 4m40 though so are a tad sluggish. Another cheap option is the Mazda B2600/Bravo. The pre 1998(?) was petrol only although did have factory LPG which was actually worth going for. The rebody got the 2.5 turbo diesel and is a much nicer thing, most of the dual cabs were used by families so didn't work hard, single cabs however tended to be used really hard.
Still looking at options so haven't settled on the Hilux completely. Bloke next door has a 96 Triton V6 with 300,000kms and he was just telling me how he loves the thing! The pathfinder and Bravo sound interesting. More research required....
Last edited by Sirius18T; 18-03-12 at 12:58 AM.
I think If your looking at Surfs, the 3.0L TD is the one to get. Avoid the 2.4
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Thanks mate. Found a spec sheet and the 2.4litre TD had 71kw and the 3litre TD 96kw. The V6 had 110kw but less torque.Came across a dual fuel 97 pathfinder fairly cheap ( $4k ) but it's done 300k so not sure if it's worth a look.....
Iy you are considering the v6 pajero/ triton avoid the early 3.0 v6, they are quite gutless and much more thirsty than the 3.5 engines.
The only problem with all of the v6s is the heads have corrosion and BHG problems once they get up in the ks.
You will likely find that most have had the heads done by now, so should be good for another 300'000.
Projects:
'90 2jz-gte 929
'02 twin-locked TD42 GU Patrol
I will add too that a mate with the 3.5 quad cam gets consistant 13.6 litres to 100ks, my 3.0 v6 couldnt get near those numbers.
Projects:
'90 2jz-gte 929
'02 twin-locked TD42 GU Patrol
Cool mate, cheers for the heads up! A mate's old man has a 93 Surf 3 litre TD Automatic with 250k on the clock. He took me for a drive in it yesterday- didn't go too bad. Just by coincidence another mate was borrowing an 88 v6 pajero and rocked up for a beer last night so I had him take me for a spin round the block. I liked the Surf but have to say, the older Pajero seemed to have more grunt and I kinda preferred the interior in the Pajero for some reason!
Apparently the early model v6 (like the one you had a spin in) has a smaller camshaft in it, and is the pick of the 3.0 v6's. Also a whole lot less weight, so could be a good thing.
Projects:
'90 2jz-gte 929
'02 twin-locked TD42 GU Patrol
Got to agree, for mid 90's 4x4, a jackaroo is very underrated and very good value for money and while they may not be in the class of landcruisers, the price reflects it.
Doubt you'd have any more problems with it than anyother 15-20 year old car, and I daresay parts would be cheaper than the equivalent year landy.
I always fancied an early 2000's "montery" model as a daily/tow car for the boat, TDI and a lot of luxury shit for your money there.
Interesting, I think I've seen a few Monterey models in my searches so will keep that in mind
nine2nine, good info about the early V6! I was considering taking a look at this but it's the 3litre V6....http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/port-...-lwb/359670201. I checked the specs and the later model 3.5's jump up about 50kw and a shitload more torque. I guess I don't need a family car too so should maybe steer away from looking at 7 seaters....
Last edited by Sirius18T; 20-03-12 at 09:25 AM.
What are you actually towing with it?
considered a mu?
pretty good features for the price.
MU? Max towing would be around 1900kg - A sigma on my car trailer which is rated at 2 tonne. Regular 6x4 trailer trips with motorbike, supplies etc will be on the agenda too. The main killer is the freeway hill here in SA. Suprisingly my VS Commodore does ok up it when towing but the hill is a bit of a towcar killer
I know the hill you talking about. My mate and i went through there fully loaded, me in a td5 disco and him in his duel fuel 4.2 GQ. He was back to 2nd gear revving the ring out of it on petrol, and i cruised up in 5th
If you really wanna surf-be prepared to spend some coin correcting cooling setup; they fuck heads up on autos mainly because factory in rad trans cooler blocks about 30 to 50 percent of normal coolant flow.Put a bfo manual rad in it, and bfo external trans cooler and all is well.Get one cheap and alls well; or just save bikkies and buy 3.0 T/D.Dollars will always be the bottom line I guess.
Cool mate. I test drove the 92 Pajero last night - I'm having fun learning about the various cars! I was gonna pass straight away as the car was in great nick apart from the rusted to fuck sunroof! If you blinked you would miss it so luckily I had a good look and saw the rust. The guy had a ridiculous amount of receipts from the previous owner - $8k just on the motor 2000kms ago. Even with all that work done it didn't drive very nice and as previously mentioned, was slow and felt way underpowered. The hunt continues. Out of the 4 cars I've been in over the past week the Jackaroo was the nicest and ironically he just dropped the price to $3300.....I wonder if the Clutch isn't as bad as I first thought.....
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/castl...ar-/1000027661MU? Max towing would be around 1900kg - A sigma on my car trailer which is rated at 2 tonne. Regular 6x4 trailer trips with motorbike, supplies etc will be on the agenda too. The main killer is the freeway hill here in SA. Suprisingly my VS Commodore does ok up it when towing but the hill is a bit of a towcar killer
thats a mu
suposedly can tow up to 3300kg
pretty slow but not bad for an old diesel.
pretty much a rodeo with a different body.
3" exhaust, intercooler, up the boost to 17psi and a bit more fuel and they go really well considering.
im also getting less than 10l/100k's
I like it! Never seen one here - I wonder if there are many in South Oz......
nice homework jellis.
5 seconds of google tells me they can tow 2500kg. so same as most of the midsized 4x4's
'75 international acco fire truck!!
'70 VG sedan - current project, now 13's for $1300 project
'70 dodge yoot, current project - mothballed long term
'73 KE25 corolla - race car
'74 KE25 corolla - back on the road!
'89 BNR32 skyline - mothballed..
ha ha, 2500kg would be fine. Certainly none for sale in SA though. I did think it looked a little small to tow 3 tonne
In my searching I've come across several Pathfinders which have comparatively low km's and are later models - ie. 95-99 models for $7k or under. The specs on them look good in terms of power and economy. What am I missing? Anyone had experience with the Pathfinders? I like the look of this one: http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automo...D1353602012252
235k on the clock...
Last edited by Sirius18T; 22-03-12 at 10:01 AM.
yeh sorry about that, i was getting the info off an english site.
i must have confused two different cars stats.
Last edited by jellis; 22-03-12 at 09:06 AM.
Re 95-99 pathfinder,
the only thing i have found ( I am looking for something similar), is that some people have had to rebuild auto @ 200,000 km or so.
Others have had no trouble whatsoever with the auto, I presume it comes down to servicing and cooling of the box
I was also looking at Terrano 2, 2.7 TD manual, etc, etc. rumor has it that they are a nightmare with wiring problems, but i am yet to hear of anyone that actually owned one that did it. I have spoken to one current owner, and one past owner, who both have had no trouble at all with them
Last edited by F-Trukin; 22-03-12 at 07:06 PM.
Moo Powered Courier...coming soon, just need time and money
The Pathfinder you linked to Sirius looks a pearler.
Just buy it and be done with it
The only experience I have had with the terrano was a mates mate came offroad with us for a day.
He bent/ broke all sorts of steering with very minimal abuse, and had to get trucked out of there.
Seemed like a lot of car for the money though.
Projects:
'90 2jz-gte 929
'02 twin-locked TD42 GU Patrol
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