not oil baron.
Not oil baron. Do not own harem yet.
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most of the time if you a new engineer.
But to make any money as tradie they work like 72 hour weeks, u would expect to clear 3000 a week at that as a boilermaker/leading hand. Engineer usually works less hours and you not outside and shit. For example I work about 66 hours a week and clear 3000 a week, first job I have had in the mining industry.
I have found that its the money you dont hear about, for example engineers getting 10-30% bonuses each year is pretty common, dont get that as a tradie. If you move up to super nintendo they get good kickbacks and managers usually gt houses and shit, so 200k with zero living expense is pretty good.
I design and sell the following:
-RB30 into GTR sump adapters
-Engine mounts - urethane and perfect for all conversions
-SR20 to RB25 bell housing conversions
-Can do any 3D design and modelling at competitive rates.
Holden 5L 4 bolt main caps and full one piece girdle.
Hydraulic tilt tray trailers, lowest approach angle in the industry, suspension, control it from your Android or Iphone....ETA 2 months
If he lives in Sydney tell him to move to Singleton or Muswellbrook and he will have a job in no time with one of the big contractors up here. This will expose him to different mine sites, long hours and shitty conditions. If he wants to be an operator being local and having exposure to mine sites will be a massive advantage.
As an electrical supervisor/site manager I find I'm normally on around 30% more than the site based electrical engineers who are on more than the city based engineers as they get site uplift etc. We normally work similar hours although on the project I'm on at the moment they work a 6 day 56 hour week (every week) while I work an 80 hour week but 2 weeks on, 1 week off with flights paid back to Adelaide. I'd much rather be on the 2 and 1...
The advantage they have is they don't have to run a crew of 15-20 blokes and aren't as accountable to deadlines etc. It's a lot easier to come in hung over, stamp a few as constructed drawings and update a cable schedule than to run a pre-start meeting with 30 cunts and a HSR all bringing up legitimate safety concerns that haven't been adressed from 2 weeks ago because the safety officer got the sack for being a shit cunt 3 weeks ago then try to get them all working effectively.
Almost all of the supervisors, superintendents, area managers, construction managers, project managers etc I've worked with have been trade based. The baller engineers seem to be in roles like completions management, commissioning manager, commissioning engineers, programming and design. For example one of my areas was due for completion last week. The company gets incentive/progress payments so they are pretty keen to hit the deadlines. A month from the deadline I get told I have a meeting with the "completions team" every day at 4:00PM from now till the handover. They are mostly engineers, headed up by the completions manager who is also an electrical engineer. Anyway, right from the first meeting he asks me to write this epic report on exactly what is required from me and my team to be absolutely certain we'll make the deadline. I hand it to him then by the next meeting, the cunt has broken my report down into what is required day by day, plotted it onto graphs and charts then examines my daily progress (which he now requires every meeting) against his charts and breaks balls based upon that. Cunt.
I would pretty much guarentee he's on 300-400k for a 56 hour week.
Last edited by rorz; 30-03-12 at 01:40 PM.
Knee down and shit.
Do mining companies invest much in training, other than specific site training? For example do they take on a shitload of apprentice diesel fitters/electricians/boiler makers each year? Or do they just lure qualified tradespeople away from other industries with the big bucks?
I give no fark for work in the mining industry, I'm just wondering about the skills shortage.
Boycott temporary street circuits and support permanent racetracks for club level motorsport and driver training.
Yep, they train too, but only have X amount of positions per year
Yeah, they train as many apprentices as most other industries which still isn't enough. The problem is the award wages for apprentices. It's slightly better now but when I started my apprenticeship I was on $4.95 an hour. I cleared about $200 for a 40 hour week... on top of that I had to buy about $2000 worth of tools and get to trade school which was over an hour from where I lived. It doesn't surprise me at all that there is a shortage of qualified tradesmen. I believe the government now contributes to tool costs for 1st year's but they need to offer incentives to industry to train more apprentices as well as paying them more so people will stick it out rather than work in a factory or something for $800-$1100 a week clear.
Schools also seem to measure their success on how many students they successfuly get into Uni? All the teachers, councellors etc seemed horrified when I told them I wanted to do a trade after year 12. They should be directing the kids that are good at tech etc to look at trades as a viable option rather than a last resort if you can't get into Uni.
Knee down and shit.
Another 7.5 fortnight. Im fucked up. Fuck the police
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doing a bit of looking at the moment.. working in rockhampton at the moment on an excavator on gas project, trying to get on a mine site looking for anything from driving moxy, water truck, anything.. trying to get back to nsw but not important (will go anywhere), got hc licence, excavator ticket (qld).. used to high temps, dusty and being away from home..
on a good day rate at the moment, but conditions are rather substandard.. looking for myself but thought it was worth mentioning on here if anyone can point me in some direction.
Best way for a labourer is do the rigging courses then try get local civil construction experience for a year, then try get some shutdown experience
The real money is in mining construction but 99% of people can't take it including myself. Plenty of money to be made locally.
I did 8 12 hour shifts in a row at a local site near my house and I was bloody fucked by the 8th day. How people do 2/1 plus being away from home. Those guys must be superhuman
i'm a boilermaker and want some cunt to throw 3k a week at me, where do i go?
preferably on a site that supplies accomadation, dont want to do half my wage on over inflated rental prices