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    Should also mention the driver of the Escort was still in the car and is very sore and sorry but no breaks.

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    That's a terrifying hit.

    Goes to credit the proper safety gear. And the car builder to make it strong.

    Watching that footage I'm sure many of us have been pretty close to the edge and never though about how it would have ended if we did get over the other side of the line.

    Glad he is on the mend.
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    in those conditions that car should have been removed

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    Omg that is absolutely brutal. You can see the point where he loses it in the over correction, must have shit his pants. What to do hit the wall at huge peed and try to bounce off or just hold the brake and watch the escort get closer very quickly. Man what a hit, must have seen his life flash before his eyes, really is a miracle both drivers are alive.

    Pretty stupid they didnt red flag the session to tow that esky out of the way, that would have to be a possible legal situation due to incompetence.

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    anyone got a link to the photographer who took the yaris image?
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    Damn, that was big. Even knowing a collision was imminent in the video it still came out of the blue.
    A glowing endorsement for the HANS and ROPS regs. A lesser prepared car or driver would not have survived that.

    Hope he recovers as best he can quickly.
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    He did farking well to keep it straight up until impact. If the Escort wasn't there he probably could've kept going and rejoined the circuit.

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    Fuck me they would have felt that. That would have been terrifying, hope they pull up ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billzilla View Post
    There's plenty of vids around that show much the same thing and Scott doesn't need people looking at how he nearly got killed.
    You got all antsy about that video?? *shakes head*

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    Wow that is a big hit, glad both drivers are relatively OK.

    Agree though in wet or dry conditions that was a very dangerous place to leave a stranded car. Should at least have been yellow flags/lights in that section.

    Also brings home the point not many think of, if you're stranded on the side of the track and still in the car, keep you're belts tight and helmet on!
    That impact could easily have caused very serious injury or worse to the driver of the escort had he not left his belts done up tight.
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    Should also mention the driver of the Escort was still in the car and is very sore and sorry but no breaks.

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    If the car was there from the previous session why was it not cleared before the next session ?

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    Those are the questions being asked now.

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    Apparently.

    The Escort drive was still in the car. His engine blew as he came out of the pits, He hadn't even slackened off his Harness and watched Scott coming towards him in his mirror. He also credits his Hans device for saving far more serious injuries. His head was thrown forward and when it came back The helmet fractured against the rear of his seat, rollbar or something.

    Big impact indeed.
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    Wow, brings back bad memories. That helpless feeling of the 2-3sec's before impact

    So glad everyone is relatively OK.
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    Wow, massive acco. Amazing that drivers in both cars are on the road to recovery.

    If the Escort was from the previous session there is no reason it should not have been moved before the next session started. Maybe someone didn't want to get wet and muddy by going and getting the car onto a tow truck??
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    Quote Originally Posted by dat2kman View Post
    Wehther it's a Yaris, a 280ZX, a Silvia, a Escort, what is very common to this is that,
    Lakeside Park is, and always has been, one of a number of circuits that can cause car damage, which, in a lot of cases, causes human damage, some bad, some not so bad.
    If we have the ability to give ourselves a little more capability to reduce human body damage, we should avail ourselves of this.
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    Couldn't agree more. Apparently when I brought up the topic of making T1 at Eastern Creek safer there were certain people that basically considered this a Ghey concept. I'll certainly be wearing HANS from now on, in addition to the new Halo seat and most likely some netting.

    Also noted that the driver of the Yaris was wearing his visor in the Up position. Guess it's tempting on a rainy day, but not a great idea all the same.
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    Jesus, I can't imagine there is much left of either car!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicevo View Post
    Pretty stupid they didnt red flag the session to tow that esky out of the way, that would have to be a possible legal situation due to incompetence.
    Pretty average track management yes. Legal action? Pls no. That's what is turning this country into the capital of nanny states. Lawyers will make $$$, Motorsport gets more difficult and the world goes on.

    Review, take action and implement best endeavours to make sure it doesn't happen again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justengt4 View Post
    Pretty average track management yes. Legal action? Pls no. That's what is turning this country into the capital of nanny states. Lawyers will make $$$, Motorsport gets more difficult and the world goes on.

    Review, take action and implement best endeavours to make sure it doesn't happen again.
    Exactly, litigation won't resolve any problems. By removing money from the sporting body you'll either guarantee that it'll happen again by removing their ability to amend the situation or you'll ensure it'll never happen again by ruining the sport. No win scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soopy View Post
    Exactly, litigation won't resolve any problems. By removing money from the sporting body you'll either guarantee that it'll happen again by removing their ability to amend the situation or you'll ensure it'll never happen again by ruining the sport. No win scenario.
    Or forcing a track closure!

    Agree legal action would cause more problems than it's worth. But I'd be wanting to see a documented review and change implementation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane001 View Post
    Or forcing a track closure!

    Agree legal action would cause more problems than it's worth. But I'd be wanting to see a documented review and change implementation.
    I agree, if old mate needs help financially with his recovery, I would rather see the wider motorsport community put their hands in their pockets to help. Rather than have him go through the courts. Hypothetically of course.
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    I remember years and years ago, there was a HQ race there. A car broke down and sat in about the same position. The officials/clark deemed it in a safe location. A car ran off the track and collected it causeing some major injuries. I always work on the principal if one car got there, another one can, surely the same thought process should prevail with the officials?
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    That is one metric fark of an impact, glad all are OK....
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    Scott is sharing it on a few forums now - best advertisement ever for buying good quality safety gear...

    I kinda look back now and wonder what i was thinking running an alloy cage and no HANS for so many years.

    Glad your mate ignored your advice Bill...
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    Don't know what the fuss is about safety gear when there is nothing stopping anyone from using a HANS etc. It's a personal safety thing, it does not impact on any other drivers or cars if you use one or not. People complain about the Nanny State yet we seem to have some running around saying thuis sort of stuff is essential, I use it so everyone else should and so on
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    When you potter around like a dunce doing track days and not actually racing I can see why you're not at risk mate...

    Most that have raced and seen the odd decent bingle are smart enough to say they (HANS or similar) are a good idea. Ask Choppo who should have had a broken neck after his bingle at EC if you need some perspective...

    I don't agree with making them compulsory in the same way I don't think we should force fuckwits who jump out of planes to actually wear a parachute. Each to their own right ?

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    Don't quite get your point Uncle Arthur? Perhaps I'm misreading you? Are you saying we're a Nanny state for mentioning that safety gear is important or that anyone suggesting using it is a victim of said brainwashing? The legal issue was brought up and this would be the deathnell for most of us that enjoy tracking our bank accounts. In actual fact there should be a mandate that people have to have a minimum level of safety gear on when they leave pit lane...Hans included. The whole notion of the driver assuming the risk is outdated. The more events like we've witnessed in this thread occur, the more likely that some HR Nanny is going to get a hold of amateur motorsport and make it too difficult to participate in. If the powers that be do their job properly ( in this case ensure that the Escort was towed before anyone else was allowed on the track) and are seen to be ensuring a minimum of standards, the less likely that the lawyers are called in. Make no mistake, the family of someone that is maimed or killed isn't going to care a hoot about the rest of us. Their lawyer is going to seek retribution and restitution and we really will be fucked.

    PS...I too had a bingle at Eastern Creek and should have had much worse injuries than a few broken ribs and whiplash. My head was screwed right around so much so that the back of my helmet has a small gouge of where it hit the camera that was mounted on the roll cage behind and centre. Quite a stretch let me tell you. Neck is still suffering. In other words I should have been wearing a Hans or similar device. Lesson learned.
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    You knew the risks man. Shorts, t-shirt and closed shoes should be enough. Anything more is Nanny State stuff...

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    after seeing some big ones recently at hillclimbs, LS1 powered 280ZX at Bathurst, and 2JZ powered Corona at Mt Gambier to name a couple of huge hits, I pulled the engine and windows out of the M3, not doing any other events until it is caged, and also bought a HANS device
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