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    Freelander 2 HSE - GerlyTruk™ Softroader

    The nopics had been on my case the last few months about getting a new car. I guess it was a bit of jealously, I have the XJR and had spent quite a bit on it for the import and the then the work I did on it once it arrived.

    The X-Type had become "her car" back in Switzerland once I bought the XJR, but as you know we couldn't bring it back, so she's been driving around in a 2000 model Mazda 323 which had been driven by her sister since new, and as a result it was a total bucket. So "I need a new car" became a regularly heard statement round here. I had to get rid of the XR6 ute anyway, the ABS module had packed it in & it needed way too much money to get it roadworthy (long list of things needed doing), it would be heading to the scrappers when the registration ran out in a few months anyhow.

    Only stipulations for the new car were it had to be black, with a black interior, no diesel, and enough space with the back seat down to replace the ute. She was hoping for a Mazda CX-5, but no way was I parting with my own money for a Mazda, so I was on the lookout for a 4.2L Supercharged Range Rover Sport, but that idea was scuttled when she actually sat in one & said "no way, it's just too big" so I started looking for a Freelander 2.

    Looking at Feelander 2 HSE's on carsales, in black, with the 3.2L, and quite by accident changed the search to take in all models of Freelander not just HSE's, and an SE showed up in the results. SE being a lower spec it was considerably cheaper than the HSE's, but when I looked at the pictures I noticed the badge on the boot was HSE.

    It was at a dealer not far from our place, so I went down there the next morning to have a look. I took a printout of the ad with the advertised price and saying SE, I figured this would come in handy.

    It was the sales guys 2nd day on the job, and he got me as a customer, poor bloke!

    I had a good look over the car, checking the toys and options fitted. Although it didn't have Satnav (the Aussie LR2's have a Garmin Nav fitted locally by the dealers), it was in fact an HSE. I asked him when they had put the ad up & said the day before, which explained why nobody had picked up on the mistake, so I put out a few "buying signals" to get the salesman on the hook. First of all I asked him to confirm the price, as per the ad.

    "Yes that's the price" he says.

    "What about trade-ins, I've got this 2002 XR6 ute, it's a bit rough, but worth $1500"

    "Yeah we could do that" he says.

    "OK good, so now why does the ad say this Land Rover is an SE, when in fact it's an HSE?" I asked.

    "I need to speak with the sales manager" he replies.

    Cutting a long story short, he goes in to see his boss and 15 minutes later they come back & confirm that it is an HSE, someone screwed up the ad big time.

    I know that the price they've advertised it for is $5K - $7K cheaper than other HSE's on the market right now, so I dig in my heels "you advertised it at this price, and confirmed it just before, so that's what i'll pay, and take my ute for $1500" and the sales manager reluctantly says yes.

    And then I turn into a complete arsehole.

    I start pointing out all the defects in the paint (crows feet all over the tailgate), the sunfaded D pillars and the plinth on the tailgate was also faded. "all this needs to be painted" I demand. "OK yes we will do that"
    But I keep going..."There's a crack in the passenger mirror, dents on the drivers door, this has to be fixed too" "OK, yes, yes, we'll fix it"

    Go in to do the paperwork, and I make them write all this stuff into the contract, every little thing they have to fix. Will all be sorted out when I get back from Korea a week later to pick it up.

    So i picked it up yesterday, handed over the ute, and when the sales bloke went to move it the hose from the intake manifold to the brake booster popped off & there were no brakes! I explained that "it does that sometimes" but he didn't see the funny side of it.

    Paid them the balance & signed the last of the paperwork, deal was done. I've never seen a bloke so unhappy about selling a car....i'm probably their least-liked customer, but that's what you get for putting 300% markup on parts!

    Pics I took at the dealer on the day, before the paintwork had been done, in the pic next to the XJR it's been painted body colour when they did the tailgate.







    You can see the plinth on the tailgate is that faded grey colour.

    So about the car...

    2009MY Freelander 2 HSE
    3.2L Si6 (actually a Volvo engine) with 6-speed auto
    Black on Black
    Alpine Premium Sound with subwoofer, 6-stacker
    Automatic Xenon headlights
    Automatic rain-sensing wipers
    Powerfold mirrors
    Front & rear parking sensors (which override the stereo, happy about that!)
    Panoramic Roof (dual sunroof)
    4 brand new Kuhmo's on factory 18's
    Full service history, with 113'000kms on the clock

    I think the previous owner was a chain-smoking exotic dancer, because there is stripper-glitter all over the steering wheel, and the scent of Marlboro in the cabin (but being a smoker, I couldn't smell it)

    But it's never been off-road, from what I can tell no accident damage, the leather is in very good condition.

    Needs a bit of cosmetic work, mostly from sun damage, the door handles need replacing, the badges are faded, the vents on the front wings also need replacing from sun damage. I've ordered all the bits in the UK & they'll be turning up in the next couple of weeks.

    It's quite nice to drive, very comfortable, the 3.2 makes reasonable power, but despite being a GerlyTruk™ it's still pretty big, it dwarfs the XJR



    Easily as wide, maybe a foot or so shorter, so i hope the nopics has no problems parking it, she complained about the XJR being "huge" so see how she gets on with the Land Rover! Good thing the parking sensors mute the stereo, the X-Type didn't have that & she backed it into a garbage bin because "it didn't beep" well it did, but she couldn't hear it over the music.

    First job was to remove the towbar (it was a real shin-smasher) and tape up the hole left by it, you can see in the pic above. I just realised that the white cover for the plug looks awful so I'll have to paint that.

    And i've been told it will have to get black Euro plates like the XJR...

    I'll update this thread as the bits & pieces turn up, not a project as such, but taking care of all those little things that make the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marv View Post
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    People must assume you are some sort of drug dealer with all these nice cars turning up to a fibro home

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    Probably the only woman in the world to ever say no to a Range Rover.

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    Story is cool but useless without the sale price so as we can truly judge your car buying prowess
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    Well a few packages from the UK turned up during the week, so I spent a few hours today on the Freelander.



    New side vents in chrome, with clear indicator lenses, a black badge kit for the external oval badges, a black badge for the steering wheel, and some centre caps with black badges.

    The Freelander 2 has some odd sized oval badges on the C pillars, which are not used on any other LR model. They are the standard green/gold colours. The Supercharged Range Rover Sport got black badges, and I think they look a lot better, especially on a black vehicle, and i'm not the only one that thinks that way, there was such a demand that a small company in the UK started making these kits to stick over the Freelander 2 badges.



    Not as good as the real thing when you get up close, but since there is no other option, this is it.

    The Supercharged Range Rover Sport also had the black oval badge on the steering wheel, which you can pick up on ebay cheap enough.

    Before



    After



    The vents on the wings quite literally pop in & out, and the side indicators are also a 30 second job to change.

    Before



    After



    Wheel centre caps actually turned out to be genuine ones, despite the super low price on ebay. Or...the green ones I took off were copies too? Either way, massive improvement.





    You can see where I wiped the wheel before taking the cap off, that's from just one week of commuting, a total of 400kms. I think some low-dust ceramic pads are needed here.

    So, nice new wheel caps, but then I saw just how bad the gutter rash was on the wheels....





    Really, they need professional refurbishing, but i'm on the lookout for a set of original 20's from a Range Rover Evoque (direct fit) so I just sat there for an hour touching them up with a silver wheel paint kit.





    Hell of a lot better than what it was.

    So some pics after a wash, it's looking a bit sharper now.









    Still waiting on new door handles to arrive from the UK, should be here next week.

    It's getting there, but this is the easy stuff, next comes the navigation & bluetooth phone retrofit, just waiting on my wallet to recover from the last couple of weeks efforts...
    Jaguar XJR, Freelander 2 HSE, Jaguar XKR

    Quote Originally Posted by Marv View Post
    Look, just because you drive a couple of imported luxo Pommy cars doesn't mean you need to act like an Imperialistic Lapdog and be the last bastion of defence for Straya The Beaut's mid-20th-Century ideals
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    People must assume you are some sort of drug dealer with all these nice cars turning up to a fibro home

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    Nopics Mum has one of these, HSE TDi in ruby red with black/red leather. Quite a nice little bus, a massive step forward from the original wart.
    Obviously they haven't improved the plastic trim quality though!

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    I can vouch for these things, owning a sd4 HSE. Nice wagon indeed. Only issue is that its chewing brake pads due to their weight and smallish brakes, but overall v happy.

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    Cheers fellas. Yeah it's a good bus, head & shoulders over the 1st gen Freelander.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin View Post
    Nopics Mum has one of these, HSE TDi in ruby red with black/red leather. Quite a nice little bus, a massive step forward from the original wart.
    Obviously they haven't improved the plastic trim quality though!
    I think the problem with this particular one is that the previous owner didn't garage it & that killed the unpainted exterior plastics, and the paint to a certain degree. The back end must have been poking out of a carport, hence the plastic plinth over the rear number plate & the d-pillar covers were pretty stuffed. The vents in the wings and the door handles weren't so bad, but still needed attention. The door handles on this one are the 1-piece jobs so you can't just change the "skin", I've got some covers coming which go over the whole handle, if they're shit then i'll have to look at completely new handles. The tailgate had crows feet all the way through the colour under the clearcoat, which again posts to no garage...

    Quote Originally Posted by JayTHEFordman View Post
    I can vouch for these things, owning a sd4 HSE. Nice wagon indeed. Only issue is that its chewing brake pads due to their weight and smallish brakes, but overall v happy.
    I've had a quick look into the brakes cause I also feel they are a little inadequate...
    From what i've read online, the 3.2L has bigger front discs than the 2.2L, but the rears are the same.
    I'm in the middle of downloading the latest Microcat parts catalogue to check the exact details.

    R1 Concepts in the US does discs for the 3.2L LR2, but i haven't seen anyone do an upgrade to bigger discs or calipers.
    Since the bolt patter is same as the late model Jags, and the Focus/Mondeo, I wonder if a Focus ST or RS brake kit could be adapted.
    The 2.5L Focus ST brakes were a direct bolt-on to the Jag X-Type, so fingers crossed...
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    People must assume you are some sort of drug dealer with all these nice cars turning up to a fibro home

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marv View Post
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    I have a full dealer-level diagnostic system for Jags & late model Land Rovers, it's called SDD, which is the successor to IDS.

    So I hooked up the SDD yesterday to have a bit of a poke around, mainly to see what "dealer options" there were to play with.

    I really wanted to turn off the warning beeps if you start the car with the drivers door open, or open the drivers door before removing the key.

    I found the vehicle configuration where you can change all this sort of stuff, but sadly no option to turn off the chimes. Actually there's not many options in there at all, you can select if the mirrors dip in reverse, select the drive-away locking, and select daytime running lights, and that's it...

    A bit disappointed....

    There isn't even an option to turn off the beltminder, although I did find out how to do it without the SDD.

    1) Insert the key fob
    2) Press and HOLD the start button without your foot on the clutch (manual) or brake (auto) for about 2-3 seconds
    3) Insert and remove the seat belt 9 times - a chime will sound on the 9th attempt
    4) Seat belt warning is disabled

    Still can't shut up the key-in/door-open chimes though...

    I hate cars that beep incessantly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marv View Post
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    Another package arrived from the UK last night. A parcel shelf / load cover.



    These things are damn expensive, the list price in the UK was £240, i didn't even ask what they would be to buy local.

    Lucky I picked up a new-old-stock one off ebay, from Belfast of all places, for £100 plus shipping.

    Surprised that an HSE didn't have one as standard, or it's probably sitting in the previous owners garage under a pile of junk...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marv View Post
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    People must assume you are some sort of drug dealer with all these nice cars turning up to a fibro home

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    100 pounds is pretty good. For reference its $320ish for a current model captiva blind
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    you cant kill the beeps sadly, its our most asked about question. i work at a lr dealer. what size are the wheels?

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    Don't feel to bad about the price of the cargo blind, I just priced the combined cargo blind,load restraint net for my thing. AUD$1000!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fly510 View Post
    100 pounds is pretty good. For reference its $320ish for a current model captiva blind
    Quote Originally Posted by irsa76 View Post
    Don't feel to bad about the price of the cargo blind, I just priced the combined cargo blind,load restraint net for my thing. AUD$1000!
    Yeah I got lucky with that one. The shipping was a bit steep but i'm still well out in front, especially since it was brand new, still in the original box.
    There were 5x black ones on ebay.uk all ~£100, I wrote to all of them asking for international shipping, this guy was the only one who replied.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sloth View Post
    you cant kill the beeps sadly, its our most asked about question.
    I can believe it that everyone wants to turn it off, it's so annoying!
    What surprises me is the lack of "dealer options" in the SDD, with the Jag there's dozens of different settings you can play with, the LR is pretty basic...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sloth View Post
    i work at a lr dealer.
    You mentioned that, do you guys do Jaguar as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sloth View Post
    what size are the wheels?
    Currently 18's, with a brand new set of Kuhmo somethingorothers that have done 1000 k's or so...it's bittersweet, i'm glad it's got new rubber, but if it didn't that would be a good excuse to get the Evoque 20's that i'm lusting after...

    Want a set of Style 6 in Sparkle Silver, prefer 5x to include the spare as well.



    There's a mob in Sydney offering a new set of 4x replicas with Atturo tyres for $2K but I can't justify that, especially since I have brand new rubber on the 18's, and I'd prefer an OEM grade of tyre...and it's only 4x, and, and, and....

    I asked the local LR dealer if he could hook me up with something, he told me to go to Tempe Tyres!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marv View Post
    Look, just because you drive a couple of imported luxo Pommy cars doesn't mean you need to act like an Imperialistic Lapdog and be the last bastion of defence for Straya The Beaut's mid-20th-Century ideals
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    People must assume you are some sort of drug dealer with all these nice cars turning up to a fibro home

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    lol nah we do vag, lr and suzuki. sadly no jaaaag.

    sdd is very limited even in dealer. there isnt much that you can do. suprisingly the bmw era stuff has more choices.

    reason i asked about the rims, is that they look small.

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    What an unusual combination of brands for a dealer...hmmm....

    I can do everything with the SDD apart from the "Golden Key" stuff, and I don't have a VMM, but I think it's more the Freelander doesn't have that many toys to play with, so not many options in there...

    Yeah it really needs 20's, the 18's are just too small.... you work at a LR dealer, hook a brother up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marv View Post
    Look, just because you drive a couple of imported luxo Pommy cars doesn't mean you need to act like an Imperialistic Lapdog and be the last bastion of defence for Straya The Beaut's mid-20th-Century ideals
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    Good pickup, I had not noticed what a big car these things are.
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    Cheers Sketchy.

    OK regarding the brakes, i've done a bit more digging, and this is what I found.

    The rears discs of the 3.2 are 302mm x 20mm ventilated, which are unique to the Freelander 2...
    EBC 1551, Centric 22018

    The rear discs of the 2.2 are also 302mm but are thinner and solid.

    The front discs for the 2.2 are 300mm discs, used on a number of vehicles....
    EBC 1500, Centric 39040

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    Range Rover Evoque 2.0L & 2.2L
    Volvo S60, S80, XC70, V70 non turbo small engine
    Ford Mondeo MK IV 1.6/1.8, Galaxy, S-Max 2.0/2.3

    The fronts discs for the 3.2L are 316mm, used on a number of vehicles.
    EBC 1549, Centric 39042

    Freelander 2 3.2L
    Volvo S60, S80, XC70, V70 2.5 turbo and 3.0, also 4.4L V8 (but USA only)
    Ford S-Max 2.5 turbo

    Pads are pretty much the same applications as the discs, although the Ford Kuga also got a mention.

    So, we know that the bigger discs & calipers from the 2.5L Turbo Focus ST are a direct bolt-on to the front end of the MK IV Mondeo, I wonder if they will fit the Freelander....?

    Anybody make big brake kits for Volvos?

    EDIT

    Looks like I found a 336 x 28mm disc from a Volvo that'll bolt straight on to the front hubs.
    And it appears that the Brembo caliper from the Volvo S60R & V70R would be a bolt on.
    Only problem is the the S60R/V70R discs are 330x32mm, so the new disc would be a little bigger but thinner too.
    Might be close enough though, something worth looking in to down the track.

    The S60R/V70R discs aren't a direct bolt on because the hub is 68mm, whereas the FL2 is 64.3mm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marv View Post
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    People must assume you are some sort of drug dealer with all these nice cars turning up to a fibro home

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    Door handle covers arrived from the UK during the week, went to put them on friday night and they didn't fit...

    Got in touch with the seller and it turns out I was the 2nd customer from Australia having this problem, so the seller agreed to a refund, not sure of the reason why but in any case looks like i'll have to order some complete handles...

    There is a genuine accessory kit with complete colour-coded handles available from Land Rover, not cheap at £113 plus shipping, but at least it'll be done right.

    Even with the black covers just sitting over the existing handles it looked way better than the crappy faded grey handles.
    Might as well order the colour coded mirror covers too to finish it off.

    For whatever reason the steering wheels on the LR2 are really crap compared to the Disco & RRS wheels (despite being all but identical) the leather wears really badly, and this one is no exception, so a replacement wheel was on the to-do list. Genuine replacement wheels go for £400 and even getting one re-covered in the UK is £200 plus a core charge of £120 if you don't send your original wheel back, and then there's the shipping on top both ways. Luckily I won a secondhand steering wheel on ebay.uk for 99p, I took pity on the bloke & gave him £20 for it, it's now at a trimmer in Germany getting recovered in leather in the OEM style for €130, should turn up in the next week or two...
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    I got the new handles on a week or so back, but didn't get the chance to take a pic. The easiest job I ever did on a car, literally 15mins to change all four handles. The busted door mirror finally got replaced and the dings pulled out of the drivers door. So I figured i'd put some colour-coded mirror covers on too, finish it off nicely.



    Looks a million times better than those crappy faded grey handles.

    Couldn't believe it, the guy that pulled the dents out of the door removed the bolts from the door lock, and forgot to put two out of three back in. I'm wondering "why doesn't this door close properly" and voila, no bolts. Muppets... fixed quick enough, but still, you expect people to do a good job, and they let you down..

    eBay has been very expensive the last couple of weeks, I picked up a genuine Audio Connectivity Module, which gives you iPod, USB and AUX inputs to the factory stereo, also picked up a set of genuine HST exhaust tips. Should be here in a week or two. And I won a TomTom Start60 / Via 620, which fits perfectly in the hole in the dash, gotta find a free weekend soon, the to do list is pileing up..

    In a half-hearted attempt to improve the mileage, i put a K&N panel filter in today, makes a very noticeable difference to the induction note, but i'm not holding out much hope for an improvement in economy. Seems that Viezu has an off-the-shelf tune for these things, but it's a power tune... they talk about adding ~25HP and 20Nm or so.
    I'll have to see what the local agent has to say about it...

    Still waiting for my new steering wheel to turn up too...

    Found a guy in Hong Kong offering the Evoque 20's for around $1100 shipped here, which is very tempting...
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    People must assume you are some sort of drug dealer with all these nice cars turning up to a fibro home

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    if you'd order off r1 concepts, you might get a 15% or so discount if you sign up on the cadillac forums

    i had f/r "premium slotted rotors" and hawk pads shipped to my door for under 500 dollars...
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    More rabbit less turtle!

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    Cheers fellas.

    Tut I will probably go for R1 Concepts discs, I put a set on the XJR and they have been brilliant. But the shipping from the states costs as much as the discs themselves...

    I found a pic of a black Freelander with the Evoque wheels I want, opinions?



    And to compare

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    People must assume you are some sort of drug dealer with all these nice cars turning up to a fibro home

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    Do it.
    Just don't paint them black!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Nicholson View Post
    Cheers fellas.

    Tut I will probably go for R1 Concepts discs, I put a set on the XJR and they have been brilliant. But the shipping from the states costs as much as the discs themselves...
    i had a quick look at my actual order, and turns out

    03-05 CTS sport sus. - f/r premium slotted only rotors + hawk hps pads $480.49, discounted: $425.00
    Shipping: $185.00

    so a tad more than i remembered, but still not too bad, all in all (especially since locally it would have been ~2000 euro for 4 slotted disks and hawk pads)
    just sayin...
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    I personally like the stock wheels better. Although I think it has nothing to do with actual wheels, I think I visually like the look of the larger sidewall. If the evoke wheels had tires with the same size sidewall as the stocker I would guess I would like them more.
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    Wheels will have to wait until tax time, if I get a reasonable return then I'll drop some coin on the wheels & do the brakes at the same time. The dust from the stock pads is ridiculous.

    Picked up a pair of genuine new old stock exhaust tips from the HST kit for £50, put em on this morning, but they are pushing the swede-limit a bit...



    it's a 5min job to put the old ones back on so well see how it goes.

    The Audio Connectivity kit and GPS are here, but it's a good half day to put them in, no time this weekend, and next weekend is a blow out too.

    The steering wheel has finally shipped so I'll put that in at the same time. The trimmer sent me a few pics, much better finish than the OEM ones.
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    Change em back - looks arse
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    Re the brake dust, give the wheels a good clean with something like Autoglym wheel cleaner then spray them with Autoglym instant tyre dressing. Brake dust doesn't stick to them as much, I'll have to pull my wheels off and do them properly when I get my destroyed wheel replaced/get new wheels for my thing.

    Oh and having just destroyed a 17" wheel running 50 series rubber, I'm thinking more sidewall is a good thing!
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    The 20s really degrade ride quality over 19s. When they were introduced on the evoque they needed 39 psi in the fronts though to pass high speed validation so that didn't help. It has since been reduced but still not ideal. 19s are as large as you would want to go for comfort and performance.

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