Results 1 to 29 of 29

Thread: Mamba/Kinguwara turbos

  1. #1
    Registered User dnegative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    4,415

    Mamba/Kinguwara turbos

    Anyone have any feedback on Mamba turbos sold by Eiji Takada?
    Looking at one of these for a 1JZ if I cant find anything used/good/cheap locally

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MAMBA-GTX...item2a54eeb912


    Chinese junk or genuine decent product?
    Vaguely remember someone saying they are garrett CHRA's but with aftermarket housings etc
    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    Fuck I'm retarded

  2. #2
    Registered User JZK25's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Sunshine Coast, Qld.
    Posts
    7,848
    The quality of the castings and machining is much better than garrett. Sad but true. The CHRA is a Garrett copy.
    David Fraser - Automotive Historian!

    Quote Originally Posted by bigmuz View Post
    You can't polish a turd but you can put 600hp in it and laugh your fucking arse off coming past someone sideways at Powercruise.

  3. #3
    Registered User dnegative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    4,415
    I know the Chinese can make good turbos, I'm yet to replace an exploded china Garrett (and those have the worst castings known to man);
    Just need to know if these are any good?

    Just need a 'budget' replacement for fucked twin's, the Mamba looks like a bolt up solution.
    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    Fuck I'm retarded

  4. #4
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    1,399
    I've had a Kinugawa on my TD42 patrol for ~50,000kms.
    Does what it should and I have had no issues
    Ban low performance drivers not high performance cars

  5. #5
    Meh
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Gold Coast
    Posts
    26,940
    Just out of curiosity, what's the biggest Kingugawa turbo that'll fit onto a standard WRX? Just bolt on type of thing.

  6. #6
    Registered User JZK25's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Sunshine Coast, Qld.
    Posts
    7,848
    Probably a TDO6h 25G. You are restricted by the 57mm inlet fitting.
    David Fraser - Automotive Historian!

    Quote Originally Posted by bigmuz View Post
    You can't polish a turd but you can put 600hp in it and laugh your fucking arse off coming past someone sideways at Powercruise.

  7. #7
    Meh
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Gold Coast
    Posts
    26,940
    Ta. How many Llamathrusts would that make on my EJ25? Just a rough guess.

  8. #8
    Arrogant wankeler Slides's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Central West/Lake Macquarie
    Posts
    1,390
    Enough to thrust the teeth off the gears? Is that a geargasm?

  9. #9
    Registered User Justengt4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    canberra
    Posts
    3,663
    A pity they don't do any big singles I need something than punches like a Precison (fir the size) but priced like a BW
    GT8
    1UZ Celica
    1.07 flat Wakefield Park

  10. #10
    Registered User dnegative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    4,415
    Should I be the test mule?
    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    Fuck I'm retarded

  11. #11
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Heyfield
    Posts
    183
    Quote Originally Posted by Justengt4 View Post
    A pity they don't do any big singles I need something than punches like a Precison (fir the size) but priced like a BW
    How big do you need? I have their xr6t upgrade on my falcon and it seems to make angry noise and make wheelspin. Need to find time for a proper tune though
    (Kinugawa t04r billet thingo)

  12. #12
    Registered User Justengt4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    canberra
    Posts
    3,663
    Quote Originally Posted by blingcommander View Post
    How big do you need? I have their xr6t upgrade on my falcon and it seems to make angry noise and make wheelspin. Need to find time for a proper tune though
    (Kinugawa t04r billet thingo)
    76-80mm comp inducer...so, pretty big
    GT8
    1UZ Celica
    1.07 flat Wakefield Park

  13. #13
    Registered User dnegative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    4,415
    Pulled the trigger on one in .74 AR, his Mitsubishi shit seems to get decent reviews for not exploding so I guess we will see.
    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    Fuck I'm retarded

  14. #14
    Registered User dnegative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    4,415
    Its in the mail, ETA this week
    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    Fuck I'm retarded

  15. #15
    too old for this shit Kiahatsiu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    Brisbane/OkTedi
    Posts
    2,600
    Billzilla, I'll have a look at their turbos. They make an equivalent of what I used to run on my 2.0. It would be excellent, and you would be able to make a lot of lamathrusts.

    http://shopping.kinugawaturbo.com/ki...2-1-1-2-4.aspx <---this with a billet wheel would perform similarly to my blouch unit. Keep in mind you have an extra 500cc's.
    Last edited by Kiahatsiu; 02-09-15 at 09:04 AM.
    Torque sells tow cars.
    Horsepower wins horse races.

  16. #16
    Meh
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Gold Coast
    Posts
    26,940
    Ta.
    Looks like I might have some money coming in, so I'll be able to afford a decent turbo for the thing at last.

  17. #17
    too old for this shit Kiahatsiu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    Brisbane/OkTedi
    Posts
    2,600
    But seriously. AMauto "rotated" GTX3071. I used to think the stock locations turbos were good, but the exhaust housing really holds them back. Their peak power is good, but they don't respond like a garret or precision.
    Torque sells tow cars.
    Horsepower wins horse races.

  18. #18
    Meh
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Gold Coast
    Posts
    26,940
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiahatsiu View Post
    But seriously. AMauto "rotated" GTX3071. I used to think the stock locations turbos were good, but the exhaust housing really holds them back. Their peak power is good, but they don't respond like a garret or precision.
    As long as it bolts onto the standard bits, it's good.

  19. #19
    Registered User JZK25's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Sunshine Coast, Qld.
    Posts
    7,848
    I'll lend RZ the jig to make one Bill. Then just buy a normal T3 GTX3071R. It will make 300kw and be responsive.
    David Fraser - Automotive Historian!

    Quote Originally Posted by bigmuz View Post
    You can't polish a turd but you can put 600hp in it and laugh your fucking arse off coming past someone sideways at Powercruise.

  20. #20
    Meh
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Gold Coast
    Posts
    26,940
    Okay when the time comes I'll take you up on that offer, ta!

  21. #21
    Registered User dnegative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    4,415
    Fitting this thing on Sunday/Monday;
    Fitting kit wont suit my manifold but aside from that the finish on it is exceptional, even the small things, name brand blanking plugs in the oil feed and drain, the gaskets are from US made gasket paper and the coated paper covering the exhaust housing is the same shit we get raw cast parts at work in.

    Could all be fake Chinese shit but its got me fooled.
    Not expecting it to explode
    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    Fuck I'm retarded

  22. #22
    Registered User dnegative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    4,415
    This is still going strong and skidding tops for anyone interested. For a turbo I took a gamble on its not bad.

    For the money, would buy another one.
    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    Fuck I'm retarded

  23. #23
    Registered User BiH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    233
    Gurus. Would putting one of these on a rx7 FD 13b tt be silly? Rotary exhaust temps put even the big names to the test let alone no names.

  24. #24
    Arrogant wankeler Slides's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Central West/Lake Macquarie
    Posts
    1,390
    Most of their compressor/turbine/housing combos tend not to be rotary friendly. You would have to pick carefully, probably better off secondhand garrett if you want a roller or getting a borgwarner plain bearing turbo better suited to the 13b for similar money or a proboost copy/hybrid with a largish turbine flow to compressor ratio.
    Last edited by Slides; 23-04-19 at 05:09 PM.

  25. #25
    Registered User BiH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    233
    Target is max 300kw at the wheels. Absolute max. More into mid range and general driveability.

    Thanks Slides.
    Fortune favours the brave

  26. #26
    Registered User BiH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    233
    Ah internal wastegate would be preferable. Can't believe the $$ increase from a decade ago.
    Fortune favours the brave

  27. #27
    Arrogant wankeler Slides's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Central West/Lake Macquarie
    Posts
    1,390
    You could probably get away with the largest od the sxe200 series turbo if you are all about response and don't want over 300. Sxe360/362 with a ~0.9 a/r would probably be ok too.

    Unless you intentionally choke the exhaust it's unlikely anything other than the internal gated BW EFR turbos will hold pump fuel friendly boost on a rotary.

    Something like this would be good in terms of response and target power vs cost.
    https://gcg.com.au/petrol-performanc...0-650hp-detail
    Last edited by Slides; 23-04-19 at 08:31 PM.

  28. #28
    Registered User BiH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    233
    Proboost reckons $1500 for GTx35 type unit 1.06 turbine AR with internal gate. I was thinking more like GTx3076 0.86 turbine AR with internal gate. But you reckon that's too small/restrictive for the gate to regulate properly i.e. boost spike +20psi?
    Fortune favours the brave

  29. #29
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Approaching Uranus
    Posts
    597
    I've got a brand new bush bearing billet wheel 3076 with 1.06 housing if you want to try something for cheap.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •