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    Great read and pics, thanks for posting. Was in Adelaide briefly for work one weekend too late to catch the AMF. One day...

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    This thread is bloody awesome. The passion is real.

    Is it worth getting the brake fluid changed?
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    Awesome to see it came together.

    My experience with running 2nd hand Porsche cup slicks on my old 240z is, yes the older they are very much the slower they are. Also the mismatched tyres wouldn't be helping.

    Please keep the updates coming so I can live vicariously through you whilst not having a track car to drive.



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    I missed this. What an epic toy. Congrats mate.
    It Places the lotion in the basket!

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    Awesome mate

    It's a difficult choice to argue with - you get the awesomeness of a 3-pedal GT3 car (pure, thoroughbred, fast, engaging) along with the sensibility/practicality (is this the right term to describe a 911 race car?) of a 3-pedal GT3 car (no road-car tax, no worries about sequential 'boxes, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLO 767 View Post
    That is literally, the fucking best I can feel the adulation.

    Being a cold start lumpiness, does it have some sort of oil pressure or coolant temp trickery that won't let you get up it until those values are satisfied?
    . To my knowledge there isn't any of that stuff on the car (my lotus had it as part of the adaptronic). I started it last weekend, much to the disgust of my geriatric neighbour and the lumpy idle was nowhere to be found.

    Quote Originally Posted by 200MPH View Post
    Great read and pics, thanks for posting. Was in Adelaide briefly for work one weekend too late to catch the AMF. One day...
    Shame you missed it. I got talking to a bloke from WA who had incidentally been there for work and he was loving it. Next year!

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Rust View Post
    This thread is bloody awesome. The passion is real.

    Is it worth getting the brake fluid changed?
    I forgot to mention, it has had a couple of fluid changes along the way, although admittedly the fluid leading up to this event was getting close to 6 months old, however it's SRF which usually has little moisture uptake compared to some of the other high temp fluids. The brakes were fine but had it been a high speed track with more heavy stops I would have done the fluid. Out of curiosity, why do you ask?

    Quote Originally Posted by PXL265 View Post
    Awesome to see it came together.

    My experience with running 2nd hand Porsche cup slicks on my old 240z is, yes the older they are very much the slower they are. Also the mismatched tyres wouldn't be helping.

    Please keep the updates coming so I can live vicariously through you whilst not having a track car to drive.
    The hankooks are one track day old, the pirellis god knows. Interestingly not a huge imbalance between front and rear. Hankooks are less than impressive. I reckon their overall grip when new is not too dissimilar to A050, yet they retain all the negative features of slicks such as time taken to come on and lack of progressive brake away. But, 2K a set v 3K for pirelli. I have considered running A050 and softening off the set up more than a few times, but the idea feels a bit sacrilegious and can't get A050 in the big tyre for the rear.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigshipengine.jpg View Post
    I missed this. What an epic toy. Congrats mate.
    Thanks mate

    Quote Originally Posted by tremolo View Post
    Awesome mate

    It's a difficult choice to argue with - you get the awesomeness of a 3-pedal GT3 car (pure, thoroughbred, fast, engaging) along with the sensibility/practicality (is this the right term to describe a 911 race car?) of a 3-pedal GT3 car (no road-car tax, no worries about sequential 'boxes, etc).
    Thanks mate. Those reasons you mentioned were very much along the lines of my thinking, and you're correct to question...there is no sensibility, nor practicality to *any* race car
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    I wish to disagree, for practicality and speed, it just has to be a racecar.

    A track car that is also a road car, that is what is not practical.
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    re brake fluid: my line of thinking was being stored for 10years and unknown fluid absorbing moisture but you've allayed my fears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy928tt View Post
    I wish to disagree, for practicality and speed, it just has to be a racecar.

    A track car that is also a road car, that is what is not practical.
    Wrong, you just need to choose carefully!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 200MPH View Post
    Wrong, you just need to choose carefully!
    I am with this guy. Something satisfying in driving to the track, towelling up dedicated race cars and driving home sipping a traveller

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    On one hand, there is nothing quite like driving home from a track day after flogging the pants off the car. My previous GT3 always seemed to feel better, like it had loosened up a bit. Probably just me feeling relieved it was all still in one piece. On the other hand, a trailer is nice when shit breaks .

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    ^^^ Hearing you. When its metro, I often drive just cause i can. When its the track 2 hours south, its car on the trailer and cruise down in the towrag in air conditioned comfort and tunes. A metro tow, or trip home to grab the trailer isn't a big deal. A 4 hour round trip would suck a bag full of dicks.

    All that aside. A cup car i still a stellar idea. Have investigated rally reg for one, just cause driving things on the road that shouldn't be is fun, but apparently it cant be done. Something about the special VIN and import approval of cup cars? You could always bolt all the cup car parts onto a road reg GT3 but these days, this isn't economic sense.

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    Yep I copped one country tow on a Sunday and that was enough . I believe thatís correct re: rally reg. There are a few guys that have converted cup cars to rally in the UK, most notably, Tuthill with their 997s but evidently our regulations suck balls and it cannot be done. Would be a fun multi purpose thing with minimal mods - tyres, fans, street friendly clutch and probably a more widely tunable suspension set up to cater for tyre change. Realistically I know the guys in the UK spend big $$ doing it but I reckon you could do it for under 15K if keeping it in the realm of a simple targa set up. Not sure the non-vario cam would be all that suitable for targa though. Have thought about pizza run in mine as is a number of times haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 200MPH View Post
    Wrong, you just need to choose carefully!
    Pray tell, what have I missed?

    As soon as it has A/C, ICE, it has things I neither need nor want in my track car, but make a road car livable...
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    Yeah, a tow home from a country event can hurt. Only happened to me once when I cracked the block on my RX-7 and was at Collie. Luckily another competitor drove home and let me use his tug/trailer. I'm also a fan of the drive to metro events but trailer the away games. Except when I drove to Albany and back in the GT40. That was amusing and something to try at least once in your life. Actually, was perfectly OK, or would have been if not so as hot outside.

    928tt - where to start? Going from your signature, the obvious answer is a clubman of some type. No doors you see... And no compromise on track. Or for other, more 'livable' ideas, what about the cars owned/previously owned in this thread? 911 (older, lighter simpler versions of course), Lotus (Elise, Exige). Or build your own road car, cunningly disguised as a race car, as I did for my previous effort. Again, zero racetrack compromise. Lesser budget? Get an early MX-5. So many choices, one for every budget and the only common theme for great road/race car is lightness. Or, go with the pack and run an EMO 7, 8 or 9. Not for me, but plenty fast enough 90% of the time to take out 90% of other competitors. And then is a boring shopping trolley of a car on the road. Happy shopping!

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    200MPH I think you got your maths wrong re: evos. fast enough 10% of the time, broken 90% of the time . *disclaimer I am currently looking for an Evo 6 DD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiller
    The hankooks are one track day old, the pirellis god knows. Interestingly not a huge imbalance between front and rear. Hankooks are less than impressive. I reckon their overall grip when new is not too dissimilar to A050, yet they retain all the negative features of slicks such as time taken to come on and lack of progressive brake away. But, 2K a set v 3K for pirelli. I have considered running A050 and softening off the set up more than a few times, but the idea feels a bit sacrilegious and can't get A050 in the big tyre for the rear.
    Not sure if it's still the case this year, the 12hr guys had to spend thousands and buy 10 or 12 sets of Pirellis at Bathurst....which couldn't be used in GT rounds, etc. Some cars were only using 2 sets the entire time they were up there and some were a bit pissed at that situation...might be a chance to get practice/club event tyres for cheap if you wanted a legitimate reason for a trip next week!

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    can vouch for one of these from this place too - https://www.xcar360.com/porsche-piwi...i-vci-box.html

    let me know if you need the software, but it does key programming and all the factory stuff (so long as you have your security codes)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gxxr View Post
    Not sure if it's still the case this year, the 12hr guys had to spend thousands and buy 10 or 12 sets of Pirellis at Bathurst....which couldn't be used in GT rounds, etc. Some cars were only using 2 sets the entire time they were up there and some were a bit pissed at that situation...might be a chance to get practice/club event tyres for cheap if you wanted a legitimate reason for a trip next week!
    From my understanding, everyone in motorsport is getting fingered by Pirelli as of the last few years. Unfortunately the 996 and 997 use smaller tyres than pretty much all of the current spec GT3 cars so itís really difficult to find take offs. I called about 5 shops like a pleb last year trying to find some to shake down on and no dice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stix Zadinia View Post
    can vouch for one of these from this place too - https://www.xcar360.com/porsche-piwi...i-vci-box.html

    let me know if you need the software, but it does key programming and all the factory stuff (so long as you have your security codes)
    Hmm, not sure it will talk to my car due to Bosch Motorsport Ecu. Need a Bosch MSA Box II and Cup car cable (about $1300 worth). We havenít even checked the hours on the Ecu as Iím too tight to fork out for it. Buiks have the gear but the only ancient serial port equipped laptop they have wonít read it. Havenít asked them about trying a USB to serial port adapter yet.

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    Thanks for taking the time to post with such detail Spiller. As everyone has stated, it is a great read and truly appreciated.



    If you are chasing old race reports etc, I have quite a few of the magazines from that era on the shelf here.

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    ^^^ my nerd boner just blew a load! That is wild. PM coming your way.

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    I like where this thread is going. Quality read.

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    Duuu huuuude. That pic is so cool.

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    I somehow missed this thread. So many awesomes. Reading it all now.
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    Sorry Spiller, unfortunately some bad news.
    That muppet that took Ambrose out at Bathurst in 05 has sat in your car and more than likely driven it.
    Time to sell, buy a Kluger and move on with your life.


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    Good ol' Spud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMulla View Post
    Sorry Spiller, unfortunately some bad news.
    That muppet that took Ambrose out at Bathurst in 05 has sat in your car and more than likely driven it.
    Time to sell, buy a Kluger and move on with your life.

    Priceless, did the value just go up, or down?
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    I'll offer $50 to take it off your hands now it's dirty....

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    Saw this out at AMF. Looks awesome dude. Such a great event!

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMulla View Post
    Spiller, some awesome news.
    That legend that took that poofter Ambrose out at Bathurst in 05 has sat in your car and more than likely driven it.
    Value just went up!

    Fixed
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