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    Land-Yolo Discovery 1 #2 - Im officially broken

    If purchasing one is a poor decision, then buying a second is full blown lunacy.

    No, the white one is not dead yet, but it IS on borrowed time. Have been umming and ahhing about what to do with it and tried working out a plan of attack with the nopics. What it came down to was this - I havent really spent any money on it besides purchase and getting it through rwc, engine is ailing but it still works and will still function fine as a daily/kidlet hauler until the rego runs out next year. The problem is going forward - rebuilding or replacing the engine would be a waste of time and money given the lack of range with lpg/petrol will still be a problem, especially with the dwindling availability of LPG. Running it on straight petrol would not be an option with the sort of k's we are doing in it - aint nothing in this world that drinks like a Rover V8, except for maybe my alchoholic uncle. Doing an engine conversion is too many headfucks and too many dollarydoos to get right and I dont exactly want to break down in the middle of nowhere because of a conversion piece not being up to it.

    So a plan is formed to look for a D1 200tdi or 300tdi with all the good stuff [suspension, bigger tyres, bull bar etc] done to it with a budget of approx 5 to 7k which should buy a good one. Preferred a 200tdi because they are simpler and seem to have less shit go wrong with them than the head and timing belt eating 300tdis and there is actually fuck all power/torque difference between them anyway.

    On Friday, that plan [which lasted all 4 days] went out the fucking window. Was trawling land rover forums on the Monday and spotted a pretty badly written ad that just said 92 Discovery, 0 replies after 2 weeks. Figured it was a Petrol V8 that are a dime a dozen and that no one wanted, and almost closed the tab. Instead, decided to open it, only to find out it was actually a 200TDI manual, with snorkel/cargo barrier/prettyshitbullbar/dual battery setup/cb [all stuff i wanted] that had been parked up because the heater fan didnt work and it was down on power. It now didnt run because batteries were dead and hadnt run for a few years. This is exactly what my Mrs and I agreed on should replace the white one

    Behold, one shitboxen in all its greeny glory



    Its actually fucking straight besides one rear quarter which has a scrape in it that will hopefully tap out. Paint on roof and bonnet are rooted, little bit of rust starting in the cargo area but other than that it looks the goods. Interior is better than mine and will clean up better [and mines already decent on that score] so at this point, its looking pretty fucking good for the 700 smackers hes asking.



    Took a spare battery with me to try and get it fired up only to find out the Commo battery i brought with me had the terminals round wrong way. Stole the battery out of mine and two cranks and 9 of victorias nastiest spider attacks later the bastard thing fired up in a blackish smoke show. Settled down to idle and actually sounded quiet, winrar. Reason for loss of power is pretty fucking obvious after all of 30sec [and i dont even know anything about diesels]. Apparently the intercooler piping is known to collapse and split on these things. The amount of duct tape and electrical tape being used in an attempt to hold all-teh-boosts into the plumbing was impressive. Theres your problem sir, and hopefully he hasnt fucking melted it with high EGTs due to the poor thing not getting air.

    Angry 200tdi lump



    Ugly bullbar which will hopefully get replaced by a proper ARB bar





    Agreed on 650, going to retrieve it on Friday.

    Plan of attack:

    -White shitboxen still runs, and is rego'd till next year. This gives me until Apr-19 to sort this nugget out
    -Need to do a leak down test and get a feel of what sort of shape the bottom end is in, hopefully no need for rebuild [im in two minds about doing this anyway]
    -Redo suspension - 2" lift, redo bushes, steering dampener etc
    -Respray bonnet and roof
    -245/75/R16s for that slight lift feeling, hopefully get away without needing to trim the arch
    -ARB front bar, the PIAA foggies i bought and a set of driving lights of some description
    -Add trutrac to rear diff and maxidrive axles sometime down the track

    Engine wise, plan is some form of turbina upgrade. Standard turbo is T25 flanged, if i had to guess id say an SR20 one would be too big to bolt on and fucked if i know how people determine turbo sizing for these things. Do not want lag - the MU i had was a punchy SOB but if you got your take off wrong, it bogged badly until boost came around so pretty keen to avoid that. Been looking at VGT stuff - possibly 4JJ1 Rodeo or the Hilux VGT, a mate is trying to convince me to go compound setup. Rest is turn pump up/exhaust/intercooler upgrades.

    Heeeeere we go.

    N-
    1978 Gemini Sedan - Powered by i change my mind every week
    1980 Gemini Sedan
    1992 Land Rover Discovery 200TDI

    #2
    Beyond broken you are but respect for sticking to it. Hope this one delivers, canít go wrong with diesel
    Originally posted by Faux Forg
    I agree with Rdyno

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      #3
      It has begun. I wonder how many Discovery's you'll own 12 months from now?!

      Diesel was a good choice.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Rascasse View Post
        It has begun. I wonder how many Discovery's you'll own 12 months from now?!

        Diesel was a good choice.
        I'm tipping 3 and 1/4
        +1 on the diesel, but a power upgrade is a must - especially if towing.
        Put an aftermarket temp sensor & gauge with alarm on it.
        Lots of minis & mokes including a G13b powered Sports Sedan, a couple of Swift Gtis, a Goggomobil, Porsche 928S, Polo Gti, BMW 540i, a WRX and a few others.

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          #5
          says alot about these cars though...for all thier problems, you still chose another.

          and most say the same.. "it was a fucking shitbox, my towie ended up my best man, and i hate all blokes named lucas by default..would i own another? absolutely."
          '67 Volkswagen Beetle 1300cc
          '09 VE SS


          Originally posted by Scrad
          You are like some sort of car rapist, Sticking things where they don't belong, and often don't fit nicely

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            #6
            i await rage quit when replacing bcambelt and gaskets.

            because fuck you gasket.
            https://www.google.com.au/search?rlz....0.AGpNN0J-wYE
            Originally posted by Marv
            Only be concerned if that Dunning-Kruger Motorsports bloke is there and goes all Captain Damphands McGigglefingers on you after a couple of lemon squashes....


            I'M NOT A HOOKER BUT 20 BUCKS IS 20 BUCKS...

            robslothyoung - follow me on insta.

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              #7
              Rename to Disco Stu?
              "Where can we get hold of a Vincent Black Shadow?" "Whats that?" "A fantastic bike," I said. "The new model is something like two thousand cubic inches, developing two hundred brake-horsepower at four thousand revolutions per minute on a magnesium frame with two styrofoam seats and a total curb weight of exactly two hundred pounds."

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                #8
                The lights on it look like Cibie Super Oscars, you can buy new lens and reflectors for them still.

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                  #9
                  You sir, have the disease, welcome to the cult.
                  Ban low performance drivers not high performance cars

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                    #10
                    Thank you thank you, I wish I could say im glad to be here but....

                    :D

                    If we extrapolate current rate of discovery ownership [first bought in feb, #2 in july], and consider growth rate is exponential, by this time next year I should own all of the ones ever sold in Victoria.

                    All jokes aside, even with bumping the budget up to 7ish, we didnt stand a chance of getting a good diesel GQ. 80series cruiser? Forget it. Needed to be wagon body and tow 3t and that just wasnt going to happen in anything other than a Disco. I had the usual suggestions of why dont you just redraw on your mortgage and buy a hilux bro. Sure, ill just take out a bit extra and buy a jetski too like the rest of the joneseseses [brain not working this morning, grammar not loading]. So here we fucking are.

                    Lol sloth not looking forward to the timing belt but at least its not a 300tdi which are apparently worse, or a 6VE1 Isuzu which are scary to even look at. Ill have the front in bits anyway to replace radiator, hoses etc [not taking any chances] so hopefully will make life easier.

                    Anything I should know/need to replace on this as a matter of urgency besides the belt and gasket behind it?
                    1978 Gemini Sedan - Powered by i change my mind every week
                    1980 Gemini Sedan
                    1992 Land Rover Discovery 200TDI

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                      #11
                      the issue comes when the cover is eaten through by lack of coolant. or the bolts snap off and have to be drilled and helicoiled.

                      they also changed the crank pulley aswell to a lipped type. rimmer bros do a kit, its half the price of genuine.

                      factor in 2-3 days if it goes sideways.

                      at this age id do the waterpump aswell. they prefer an oat type coolant. penrite make a good one that lasts 13 years iirc.
                      Originally posted by Marv
                      Only be concerned if that Dunning-Kruger Motorsports bloke is there and goes all Captain Damphands McGigglefingers on you after a couple of lemon squashes....


                      I'M NOT A HOOKER BUT 20 BUCKS IS 20 BUCKS...

                      robslothyoung - follow me on insta.

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                        #12
                        I spent the weekend helping a mate pick up a Series 2a from up near Albury and tow it back to Mansfield.

                        We picked it up with his TDi300 Defender and I was surprised by how well it handled the load. The trailer was 850kg on it's own and the old Defender happily sat on 110 on the flat.
                        Uphill it dropped some speed but we never had to go below 4th gear.
                        Ban low performance drivers not high performance cars

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                          #13
                          Might as well put this here https://www.facebook.com/Td5Inside/v...2834438110890/
                          Jaguar XJR, Freelander 2 HSE, Jaguar XKR, MINI Cooper S
                          Originally posted by nutttr
                          People must assume you are some sort of drug dealer with all these nice cars turning up to a fibro home

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sloth View Post
                            the issue comes when the cover is eaten through by lack of coolant. or the bolts snap off and have to be drilled and helicoiled.

                            they also changed the crank pulley aswell to a lipped type. rimmer bros do a kit, its half the price of genuine.

                            factor in 2-3 days if it goes sideways.

                            at this age id do the waterpump aswell. they prefer an oat type coolant. penrite make a good one that lasts 13 years iirc.
                            Fuck its so awkward typing rimmer bros into the work computer and hoping luck fuck google gives the correct answers....

                            Had a look for the timing belt kit and cant find anything with a lipped crank pulley for a 200tdi - you sure your not thinking of the 300s? The 200tdi kit shows a lipped tensioner pulley but thats it, no special mention of the crank pulley. 300tdi kit on the other hand specifies the lipped pulley is to stop the belt moving.

                            Water pump is on replacement list as is radiator and everything else, im taking no chances. Plan on doing bulk k's with nopics and little one on board so a break down in middle of fucking nowhere is not optional. Need to look at moving the intercooler, would allow me to drop the V8 radiator in. Quick googles says its good match for 200tdi - outlets on the same side, but full width. Would just require a slight mod to lower outlet [v8 its at 45deg, 200tdi straight out].

                            Originally posted by turbo510 View Post
                            I spent the weekend helping a mate pick up a Series 2a from up near Albury and tow it back to Mansfield.

                            We picked it up with his TDi300 Defender and I was surprised by how well it handled the load. The trailer was 850kg on it's own and the old Defender happily sat on 110 on the flat.
                            Uphill it dropped some speed but we never had to go below 4th gear.
                            Completely standard or has it had a fiddle? Basically all i want to do is be able to go uphill. Right now, the 3.5 with just me in it has to go back to third to get up moderate hills - its really on its last legs. During easter temp was climbing etc trying to get up hills with car trailer on back, had to frequently go back to second and watch it gradually lose speed even though it was sitting at 4000rpm...

                            Originally posted by Jack Nicholson View Post
                            Holy shit that fucking moves!


                            May have found a proper bullbar for this for next to nothing so the brush-gaurd style one can fuck off. Also been looking at intercooler kits on ebay, fucking hell they are terrible - since when was it acceptable to make a 45deg turn out of two pieces of straight pipe rather than a proper bend?
                            1978 Gemini Sedan - Powered by i change my mind every week
                            1980 Gemini Sedan
                            1992 Land Rover Discovery 200TDI

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by F3ARED View Post
                              Also been looking at intercooler kits on ebay, fucking hell they are terrible - since when was it acceptable to make a 45deg turn out of two pieces of straight pipe rather than a proper bend?
                              Take it to a good exhaust shop to make up the right bends/pipes?
                              "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower." - Mark Donahue Penske Porsche 917

                              "In Japan we no give fark for Subaru" - Trust Japan Technical Director
                              (TM - AVENGE)

                              "You can never have enough power. I remember when we had Group B cars... THEN we had enough power!"
                              Juha Kankkunen - Rally of Argentina '02

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