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    Like a Christopher Nolan movie, I'm gonna start at the end, and then work back to the beginning. Oh yes...that's right.



    Now, as we ponder the sequence of events that led to this shocking discovery, I'll have to take you back....to three weeks ago. The 964 has always had an unsteady idle, and for a 3.6L engine with a 20kg flywheel, is surprisingly easy to stall. Now there is a thing that you can do with these Bosch ecus, which is called an idle-adaptation. It's basically like a hard-reset for the idle function, and can only be done via a diagnostic tester. So I'd asked Autohaus Hamilton to have a go at this, at the recent major service. But their tester couldn't talk to the ecu, and Hamiltons suggested that maybe there's an aftermarket chip in there (which might also explain the poor idling).


    So, out comes the ecu, to see what's in there. Firstly, it lives under the passenger seat, where it's secured by 4 easily-reached nuts.


    Undo the nuts, and the ecu slides out, and you can unclip the plug.


    Interestingly...the ecu doesn't look like it's been tampered with.


    And the clips that crimp onto the ecu cover don't look likt they've ever been prised apart.


    But just to be sure...let's have a look.


    First you notice that the ecu is of a double-decker configuration. And the first step it to separate the pillar-shaped clips on the left side.


    Then prise these clips in the plug iself...


    Whereupon the top deck slides back, and opens like a book.


    ...where the main chi is held in with a plastic clip...


    ..where underneath, the chip doesn't look aftermarket, but I google that number on the chip, and find a few links to euro chip tuning joints: http://www.prorace.cl/autossoportado...1-carrera2.htm and http://www.tecnosport.to/mappe/tabella010.htm


    But I dunno if those sites are just referencing the stock Porsche chip number though. Anyway, I put the ecu back together. But that's not all...the ecu in the car is part number 964.618.124.03, which is consistent with my car being a later 964 with the plastic inlet manifold.


    However...I do have a spare ecu, which came with an early, alloy 964 manifold, and that has an older part number of 911.618.124.04. At first I thought that the 911 prefix might mean that this is actually a Carrera 3.2 ecu, but it turns out that this is simply the strange numbering that Porsche used for the first year of production.


    And interestingly...this DOES look like it's been tampered with!


    I take it apart...to reveal its dark secret within :D


    So. What do we know now. Well, I think I probably don't have an aftermarket chip, and maybe the poor idling is just the result of all the exhaust and intake mods I've done. We also know that I DO have a Powerderpchup...but at least it's not in the car (and to my knowledge hasn't been in the car). I guess someone owned an early 964, invested in a Powerchip, then met some sort of sticky end which resulted in that car being parted-out, and 20 yrs later bits of that engine are sitting on my shelf.

    But oh yes. Hamiltons also said that the cruise control is borked. It hasn't worked for years, and the penny dropped when a few guys mentioned that my brake lights flickered on and off, even though it didn't look like I was braking. So I think that narrows it down quite a bit


    The brake light switch is a plunger which operates off the brake pedal, and the freeplay in the pedal was enough to go past the click-point of the switch. So the natural wobbling of the brake pedal would trigger the brake lights as you drove over bumps and stuff...which would then disengage the cruise control. I guess I've take the pedal cluster apart so many times, maybe something's out of alignment, but the switch doesn't look adjustable.


    So I backed out the pushrod for the brake pedal half a turn, which moved the pedal forward a few mm, enough to close the brake light switch. So now it won't switch on the brake lights until you actually press the pedal, and the cruise control works again!

    Hmm...anyone wanna buy a Porsche ecu?
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      Nice work on the cruise control, but I'm disappointed that the Powerchip wasn't actually in the car :D Now THAT would be a story that you could tell the grandkids one day

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        I would put that Chipped ECU in a frame.

        Never forget.


        In other news, what happened to that RUF ECU you were looking at?
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          No back to back Powershit tests? Dissapoint!

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            Originally posted by trent from punchy View Post
            I would put that Chipped ECU in a frame.

            Never forget.


            In other news, what happened to that RUF ECU you were looking at?
            It's mine for 450 euros: http://epages2.euro-web.net/epages/7...24%2010%20X%22

            I think the picture is a bit misleading tho, and it's actually a plug in chup.

            Originally posted by Setanta View Post
            Nice work on the cruise control, but I'm disappointed that the Powerchip wasn't actually in the car :D Now THAT would be a story that you could tell the grandkids one day
            Yes, but that would be a story that would end with "...and that's when I had to sell the car".

            Originally posted by DaveBxGT View Post
            No back to back Powershit tests? Dissapoint!
            Let me put it this way. Someone in the dark distant past, gave money to Besanko for a chip. Then at some point after that, they came to a sticky end, their car was parted-out and in 2013 nothing is left their old car, except an inlet manifold and various other bits and bobs sitting on my shelf.

            I'm sure this entire sequence of events is due to the chup. It's cursed.
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              I'm staying tuned for the next installment, where Babs goes on an epic mission to discover why the idle adjustment doesn't work with the ECU.

              Need a hand with the hex editor?

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                I hereby dub thy 964 "Christine"

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                  Pretty lame that the experts missed a pretty basic problem with the cruise control..

                  You have to try the powerchip- they make up to 2% more power.

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                    Originally posted by bigmuz View Post
                    Pretty lame that the experts missed a pretty basic problem with the cruise control..
                    Nah, they know i do a lot of DIY, so what happens is that during the service, they call me and go thru all the things they're going to replace (just to check that I haven't already done it), and then there'll be stuff that I'll tell then not to touch, and I'll sort it out later.

                    Originally posted by bigmuz View Post
                    You have to try the powerchip- they make up to 2% more power.
                    Smashing the chip with a hammer will be more fun, but.
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                      Good move, unless you've got a spare 964 engine stashed away some where?

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                        Hmm...

                        1. Hoik out PowerChup from spare ecu.
                        2. Frame it, hang on wall.
                        3. Throw money at Ruf GmbH
                        4. ???
                        5. Profit.
                        6. Refit stock ecu if (5) is not profit.
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                          How many kidneys to you need harvest for the Ruf chip?

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                            Originally posted by irsa76 View Post
                            How many kidneys to you need harvest for the Ruf chip?
                            450 euros = A$550, which isn't too unreasonable...
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                              Do it!
                              Who said tuning Porsches is expensive? That's cheaper then the chip for my thing, which may or may not work with my later build high output engine.

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                                what sort of gains would you expect to see from said Ruf chip?
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