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    #46
    Note to self


    Postby Bill in MN Aug 21, 2010 5:50 PM

    As luck would have it I have a scale and an 8 and 9" style 32 sitting close by.

    The 8x17 is 23.5lb, 9x17 is 25.5lb
    Mit freundlichen Gre

    Originally posted by Keith Duckworth
    "I think that in a racing engine, the closer it is to disintegrating, in general the better its performance will be "

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      #47
      But what are the costs/availability of these discs?
      Rust is lighter than carbon fibre.

      My Italian 510

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        #48
        Guy just offered me everything pictured, plus calipers for not much (basically $100 corner complete - which is wrecker prices!). Way way less than the AP 4 pot route.

        Exactly you point bugging me though... It's is a bit of a unicorn

        Edit - won't know till I hold them (if) but there's more than a good chance that standard 308mm vx220 "big brake" rotors are the same thing/spec
        Mit freundlichen Gre

        Originally posted by Keith Duckworth
        "I think that in a racing engine, the closer it is to disintegrating, in general the better its performance will be "

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          #49
          In race/track car situations I think it's better to spend a little more initially on a set up that is cheaper/easier to maintain. Because if something is going to fail/need replacement, guaranteed you will find out the day before a meet.
          Rust is lighter than carbon fibre.

          My Italian 510

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            #50
            one of the big consumables on a track car is discs and pads so yeah you wanna make sure those are cheap and available
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            The major arrests will start from 1st January 2019.

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              #51
              good point.

              i should stop looking at unicorn faeces
              Mit freundlichen Gre

              Originally posted by Keith Duckworth
              "I think that in a racing engine, the closer it is to disintegrating, in general the better its performance will be "

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                #52
                Decent discs for these cars are not cheap.

                I was going to fit bigger callipers and discs to my Elise but in thousands of track miles I've never run out of brakes and that includes sessions of over 30 minutes. Good pads (Pagid), decent, slotted (not drilled) 2-piece discs (AP), good fluid (changed regularly) and braided lines are usually all you need.

                Power assisted brakes on the early Toyota-powered Elises and Exiges felt crap with too much pedal travel. Hopefully your car is too early for that.
                If you dig a hole and it is in the wrong place, digging it deeper isn't going to help.

                Police warn that blow-up dolls are not recognised floatation devices.

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                  #53
                  cad up some hats and find some generic rotors - sell to other unicorn owners
                  Originally posted by ALLMTR
                  the theory is the fuel pump is one of the only things that can fuck out on a diesel

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                    #54
                    Something r35 about this:

                    Mit freundlichen Gre

                    Originally posted by Keith Duckworth
                    "I think that in a racing engine, the closer it is to disintegrating, in general the better its performance will be "

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                      #55
                      Ps... Fuck you fiberglass splinters
                      Mit freundlichen Gre

                      Originally posted by Keith Duckworth
                      "I think that in a racing engine, the closer it is to disintegrating, in general the better its performance will be "

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by doctor ed View Post
                        Something r35 about this:

                        I like the stormtrooper look.
                        Lots of minis & mokes including a G13b powered Sports Sedan, a couple of Swift Gtis, a Goggomobil, Porsche 928S, Polo Gti, BMW 540i, a WRX and a few others.

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                          #57
                          The Exige spoiler really looks good on that car.
                          If you dig a hole and it is in the wrong place, digging it deeper isn't going to help.

                          Police warn that blow-up dolls are not recognised floatation devices.

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                            #58
                            Those 308mm discs pictured above really struggled on the front of mine at Mallala. Also it's fairly widely regarded that the AP 4 pots are a shitty el-cheapo caliper. The boots burn up in no time with track use and the seals fail. Elise-Parts sell a higher temp boot/seal package which would be the way to go if going that route.

                            I fitted 2 piece performance friction on the front of mine which were a lot better but cost me about $700 per rotor/hat. Could probably source them cheaper directly from the UK

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                              #59
                              Im going to just set it up firstly with the 308's and the stock 2piston APs on a 10mm spacer at the front. ill throw in some decent pads and just see how it performs.

                              On the back, Ive pretty much figured out the Tesla uses a modified/custom Suspension upright with modified caliper Mounts. It uses the stock rear Lotus caliper but places it out 10mm for use with the same 308mm rotor as the front. lucky find, so im getting me a set of those uprights, and we'll see how it all goes.

                              so yeah, esentially stock calipers with some decent pads, running 308 front and back.

                              we'll see how it goes before pouring Money into the 4pot AP or whatever.
                              Mit freundlichen Gre

                              Originally posted by Keith Duckworth
                              "I think that in a racing engine, the closer it is to disintegrating, in general the better its performance will be "

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                                #60
                                Yep the 2 pots with good pads, lines and fluid is definitely the way to go if you already have them. It will stop good with the 308s front and rear too. Not sure what master you are using but the Toyota lotus setup was biased quite heavily fowards so having the larger rear rotor and caliper should help you there.

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