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  • gtrboyy
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    vb-vp,kingies & torries supposedly all run same front wheel bearings.

    If booster bracket was for vs it will fit vb to vs....only thing need to really check is brake lines some models double flared others single flared hence adaptors or not although will look better without adaptors.

    Hub rings depend on wheels used afaik.

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  • Faux Forg
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    Use VN style bearings. VT are a sealed unit hub assembly and won't even look like fitting.
    The booster/master I sold you ought to fit straight on in place of your old one. It came off my VS, and AFAIK the VN and VS firewall and pedals are the same. It's a VT/VZ booster with modified brackets to suit earlier cars.
    Whether or not to use hub rings depends on your hubs; VT hubs have a step up in diameter where the disks rest while earlier hubs don't. Your conversion hubs could be either type. Easiest way to tell would be to put the disks on the hubs and see how they fit - they should be snug on the center of the hub. There were hub-to-disk rings in the kit that fit between the disk and the hub, but not the wheel and the hub.
    Wheel-to-hub spacers may be required depending on your choice of wheels, but that's another story...

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  • mad_cow
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    Use hub rings if you need to. It won't be a nice ride without them.

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  • no13b_Coupe
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    Started on the fronts tonight then took the dog for a walk.

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    Probably a good idea to get the done and dusted tbh. Pads are low and there wouldn't be much left in it.
    So I've gotten the calipers off and the rotors are just sitting there. I need to give them a whack to smack them off.

    So you can see there the hubs are ready to go but I should do the wheel bearings.
    Here's my first question. VT or VN bearings? My searchings seem to indicate VT bearings but there's so much conflicting info on the internetz I fucking don't if I am up or down.

    The next question and I double checked what Faux Forg wrote before. I've got his old booster and master cylinder.
    I am right to completely swap that out for the standard one with no modifications? From his post that should be the case?

    Next question. The internet suggest hub rings? Do I really need them?

    Help ob wan PF. You're my only hope.

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  • no13b_Coupe
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    Oh and thanks guys for the help with the shifter so far.

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  • no13b_Coupe
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    So I haven't really had much of a chance or time to slip underneath. It's been too hot and doing the smaller things inside has been easier. Or going over to elkins and working on the coupe.

    So I guess this would be irrelevant post number 137...

    Couple of things to finish on the interior. It's taking forever and it's not even that fancy. Just all the little shit no one cares about.
    I need tunes and really want to be able to have my bluetooth working but I still want to retain the factory head unit. Seems retarded but I do what I want.

    So we went through 34785624ty possibilities and endless over the top expensive options. There are some cool options but fuck just over the top expensive...
    So the options were limited and I decided to buy a aftermarket unit from autobarns.
    The woman tends to load up the glove box with shit so I didn't want to put it in there centre console never has anything useful.
    So I yolo'd a headunit and figured we'd make it fit.
    Of course it wasn't even fucking remotely close to fitting. Like massively over too big.

    IIIdddiiioottt..
    Oh well.

    So over a few beers my mate says, give it to me I'll make it fit. I give him my ideas and options and he takes it away.
    This thing came back fucking sweet!
    We've got a few things to finalise with it but it's all sweet now. Only down side is the vents in console are just for show now. I don't think I've ever been in a VN-VS where they've been fantastic anyway.

    I got that all in and bought two 6 inch speakers for the rear shelf. Wired them all up for and off it went.
    Sorta... Slight mishap with the front wires but all fixed.

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    I've gotta tidy up the wiring where the loom pops out but that's a later job. Nothing is completed till that plate goes over the shifter to be completed anyway.

    I am now chasing the factory speaker frames or casings whatever you want to call them for the rear. The sony ones do the job but look a little tacky.

    Onto the shifter drama. Matt and Willsy came down and up and we spent a day on it.

    So the good news is we think we've got the switches working the way it should.
    The most frustrating part is there seems to be an extra click between Park and Reverse...
    So we've got two reverses now after finding out that for some retarded reason I'd set the shifter back to 3 speed? I dunno what I was thinking. Will play with it some more then try and get it Park Park Reverse Netural D 321.

    After that's worked setup the dakota digital box and one of them build ninja light up things.
    Another thing I am after is a factory VN shift pattern plastic.

    Get that wired up and should all be legal.

    We didn't get to the brakes so will starting them this week. I need to buy rear rotors and pads and they'll all be sweet.
    I think this time next month it'll be ready for a road worthy.

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  • Dogsballs
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    Reverse and safety neutral you have to complete the loop.

    Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

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  • gtrboyy
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    Have a read of the instructions if you have them. or hassle Dale how wire up 2 micro-switches lol.

    Shifter in 3sp or 4spd mode?

    Apparently can swap pins on shifter & brackets that bolt to auto.

    Just keep fucking with it & do odd backyard burnout for inspiration...

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  • mad_cow
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    Barra = manwell
    Last edited by mad_cow; 04-01-21, 06:56 AM.

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  • no13b_Coupe
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    Originally posted by gtrboyy View Post
    Starting in gears?
    Got the 2 switches that came with shifter kit hooked up correctly?
    As in do reverse lights come on when in reverse,if not might need to swap wires..if that's correct you'll need a mate to check shifter is adjusted properly for gears.Vaguely remember had to swap pins in shifter to suit th700
    Yeah we've gotta play around with it. At the moment negative on the reverse lights but I don't know if they even worked before. I think one did and the other didn't.

    Originally posted by StupidFlanders View Post
    Barra kit? Slip that in there to see if anybody is paying attention?
    :D Wait n see hahaha

    Originally posted by Dogsballs View Post
    The heater control is vac operated, once you turn car off it will default to basic setting.

    Reverse light and safety neutral are taped together on the tunnel. Green/pink and striped wires. Pretty simple, if you bridge them,
    Yeah ok I might play with them again this afternoon. Thanks for the input guys

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  • Dogsballs
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    The heater control is vac operated, once you turn car off it will default to basic setting.

    Reverse light and safety neutral are taped together on the tunnel. Green/pink and striped wires. Pretty simple, if you bridge them,

    Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

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  • StupidFlanders
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    Barra kit? Slip that in there to see if anybody is paying attention?

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  • gtrboyy
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    Starting in gears?

    Got the 2 switches that came with shifter kit hooked up correctly?

    As in do reverse lights come on when in reverse,if not might need to swap wires..if that's correct you'll need a mate to check shifter is adjusted properly for gears.Vaguely remember had to swap pins in shifter to suit th700

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  • no13b_Coupe
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    Over the xmas break now that I've unboxed most things I've done a little on this.
    Again things no one will notice but in the spirit of updating V.129:

    The heater controls in these things are an interesting arrangement. I didn't have much to do with them in my ute and definitely different to the HD & Geminis.

    So I finished the gauge looms ran all the wires and just need to connect them in now so they all work. I'll do that when we do the welsh plug etc.
    I put it all neatly back together. Frustratingly enough the fascia is slightly damaged. It's got a crack where it'd suggest someone has tried to jimmy it off to fit one of the 40 stereos this thing had, so it sits slightly out.
    It's bothering me but it'll have to do.
    I don't know if it's factory thing (if anyone knows that'd be great) but It seemed to be stuck on feet. I had the help of Simsy and my mate Brad to sort this.

    I'd assume VN, VP, VR, VS would all be the same and judging by the system maybe VL? They're all swapped by vacuum?
    Turned out I had pulled a line off down the very bottom putting things back together which took 2 days to work out.
    Plumbed it all back in. (I'm writing this in case some dumb cunt like me tries to search) There's like an intersection at the base of the air box (I didn't think to take any pics) with a relief valve I think it is.
    Takes a second or two to grab pressure (and the car needs to be running to get that there apparently) and should be able to switch. If you can't check the rubber thing up where the actual dial is is together. Mine was a little off so was essentially leaking.

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    All the speeds work and I can go from demist to recirculate no drama now. I did notice but. If you turn the car off and change the dial (so say turned it to demist) it defaults to feet?
    Another quirk or I've fucked something there but when the car is running it works itself out. Maybe #justvnthings who knows.
    It's got more screws that I started with so it's all sitting perfectly and it'd be a pain to steal the radio if you were so desperate to.

    Did some fiddling with the ratchet shifter as well. We think it's out of alignment because it's still starting in any gear.
    I'll work it out.
    The dakota digital box rocked up so we will be able to rig that up so the shift pattern lights up light factory and the guide with leds is being built.
    I've also bought a barra conversion kit, brand new 4888r and a few other bits and pieces for it.

    Should make things interesting.
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  • no13b_Coupe
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    So for anyone that cares a little but not much has happened with old grey.

    I had to stop working on it and focus on the Bucket (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPyH3uZrzrY) to get it track ready for Halfwaynats track day (subscribe to the channel for vids on that).

    It's been a hectic few months, been in and out of hospital, bought and moved into a new joint which meant a frantic throw all the cars together build while packing and finishing off the Coupe plus halfwaynats and getting our old place in rentable condition.

    Now you've read the meaningless junk I'll start on the actual VN stuff lol.

    So over a lunch break (before we moved) I managed to put my seat belts together and the new gelwhateverthey'recalled PRESS button thingos in.

    Doesn't look like much but they were a pain to do.

    I got the neater ones I had purchase months ago so I threw out the ones that came with it. They're 4000000 times nicer looking.

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    Tested and they work! Hooray

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    I didn't get any pics of them but I refurbished the rear ones as well. Then went Marco OCD and cleaned and detailed everything.
    Belt plastics, the bolts then completely cleaned everything under the carpet, that shitty trim that runs along the door (maybe called door runners? they keep popping out of the carpet...)

    Having nearly finished the interior I figured I'd really really need to get the seats home and into the VN (makes it easier to drive when moving to).
    So I picked them up out of storage and brought them to our old place.
    Dad had covered them with a sheet but the sheet was half on there so they were pretty dam dusty.

    And so begins the clean of the front seats. These pics don't it justice how 'yuk' they were.
    I guess is a sorta organised timeline of how they came up. What I started with to what they are like now.


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    I've learnt a fair bit in the art of interior cleaning since doing these. 9/10 would not do again.

    8 hours in those two seats alone to get all the shit out. They're probably 7/10 now?
    You see what I started with but. They feel 1000 times nicer now however.

    For anyone who's reading or needs to know how to clean commodore seats. I think the simplest way is to do this in 2 or 3 parts.
    High pressure the shit out of them first (assuming they're not electric). We did this with the seat we got off madcow for that_guys Gemi Coupe.
    Came up pretty decent (wasn't as sad as theses two but anyway)

    Then do a vacuum, then wet vac it then clean it with whatever wet cleaning thingy you have. I used a bissell vacuum with an chair attachment a good mate of mine lent me.

    I pulled about 12 of these outta the seats before they started looking good and the water was clear-ish.

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    Fucking gross.
    I didn't get time to do the back seat before the move so I'll do that another time. It wasn't as bad as the front two which was something.

    So with that I packed every VN bit into boxes the back of the car/boot/where ever they wouldn't get damaged and moved.
    No wheel alignment, no gear shifter so my mate Adam ghetto rigged the original shifter linkages back up and managed to get reverse and forward gears onto the trailer and customary trailer skid to go with it.

    THE funniest thing is seeing all these lovely new neighbours greet us and say hi then a multi-coloured VN rocks up with no front bar, mismatched wheels and a semi running (the fuel is waaaayyy off) 304.
    Then Amy's non discrete Gemini came lol.

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    As you can see. Hadn't been washed in ages and was covered in $40,000 worth of carport dust which is worth double of barn dust. Matt Dennis featuring in this one.

    I gave it a wash and moved it.

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    So now I've got the old house done and out of the road myself, Matt, Willsy and madcow did some mucking around with it yesterday.

    We threw Willsy under the thing and using the bits Tyrie hooked me up with (probably this time last year) actually got the shifter cable setup and after a slight bit of negotiation, it's working!

    While that happened I put my new radiator hose on and did a couple of small things including a quick wheel alignment to get me by till I get a proper one done.
    I've got to now properly mount the shifter and drop box into the hole so it doesn't leak or move. I've pre-drilled the holes and so on just need to get some sealant and wack it down.

    While testing the shifter we did find some thoroughly bad news...
    Seems there was a pool of water under the car. Initially I thought it was just overflow from me filling it up but that's a big negative, seems the welsh plug next to the drivers side engine mount is done Spewing!
    So now we've got to give my mechanic mate a wristy to borrow a hoist at his workshop and get that changed.
    The list grew as we went further into it, but not massively over board. Figured we would do the engine mounts, all the lower seals where we can and a couple of dress up things, just to neaten the engine bay up.
    You'd think that should do it for a while until the engine carks it and I put something else in.

    Willsys taken the centre console back with him after him and Matt modified it for the bluetooth stereo to sit in. The Dakota digital box finally rocked up last week as well.
    I'll get an autoelec to do that and all the gauges at the same time so the shifter will read like it's supposed to.

    Front drivers side seat was mounted as well so that's all sweet to, I've just gotta do the passenger one.
    Oh and test fitted this thing to the back seat. Seems I've had that backwards and fixed that.
    Oh and there's two of them :D

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    Shifter in place, passenger seat and the brakes this weekend.
    Stay tuned! Or not.
    Whatevs

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