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    so bought a 4x4

    As some of you might now, from test driving Wrangles and FJ, even looked a a new Prado over the last few years I kinda realised all those cars have are ok at one thing and missing another and cost a bomb new so looked at the second hand.
    Patrols looked ok on paper until I drove some, fucking hell the 2.8L TD is so fast I can literally outrun it on my bicycle, looked at some toyota's and 2nd had Jeeps and meh

    Decided to buy the worst 4x4 in the world, even had to fly to Melb and drive it back, made it in extreme comfort [emoji4]


    sucking about 12.3 to 12.8 per 100 wasn't goo bad on the highway mind you it felt like I was only driving uphill, once I hit Gold Coast it was getting close to 11.7 on the flats

    Its a P38 so there is bound to be issues right? yup but not the car's fault, someone installed a batter disconnect switch, they do drain the battery after a week if there is a lot of radio interference but the disconnect was loose and it would not start sometimes and threw all this shit at me like gearbox problem, windows not set bla bla, removed the offending disconnect and bam, all issues gone. Also not a lot of air coming through vents which I think it's down to the filters being dirty, will check that.

    Not much else, I think i seen one of the ball joints having a split rubber boot, so might do that and see if it passes RWC, don't leak on the ground, don't make funny noises from the V8. The wheels might go, they are good on highway shit around town at 37psi, might try and find some 16" and leave the 18" for not sure what but I'll probably keep them

    Air suspension is out, looks like it was removed completely, even pumps and everything associated with it which leaves a good piece of real-estate for a 2nd battery under the hood and I'm investigating replacing all relays with solid state ones
    Originally posted by BeverlyHillsCop
    I think u should marry her... slip the ring inside your ass and next time she goes in, she'll come out with a ring on her finger...

    #2
    Nice. Been wondering about P38s a bit, not sure I'm brave enough to go there though.
    "Where can we get hold of a Vincent Black Shadow?" "Whats that?" "A fantastic bike," I said. "The new model is something like two thousand cubic inches, developing two hundred brake-horsepower at four thousand revolutions per minute on a magnesium frame with two styrofoam seats and a total curb weight of exactly two hundred pounds."

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      #3
      Originally posted by Gammaboy View Post
      Nice. Been wondering about P38s a bit, not sure I'm brave enough to go there though.
      Lol, between your bikes, Alfa and BMW, and god knows what else, I don't thing a P38 would be an issue for you.

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        #4
        What year is it? 4.6 or 4.0?

        I never paid much attention to P38's so this should be interesting.
        Jaguar XJR, Freelander 2 HSE, Jaguar XKR, MINI Cooper S
        Originally posted by nutttr
        People must assume you are some sort of drug dealer with all these nice cars turning up to a fibro home

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          #5
          96 4.6, 300k, full log book history until 285k, grandmom gave it to daughter, daughter never service it for 18 months, relay for HVAC faulty no airon/heating (works but it's so random) so she sells it.... I drive pick it up, change relay all works, still haven't given it a service, no oil usage from Melb, no smoke no any crazy shit, oil looks disgusting thou, gearbag oil looks clean so does PS oil, didn't use water, the only issue was the stupid battery disconnect which is silly because going through the service records I seen she replaced the battery in Feb and the guy there written on the battery invoice/docket to "replace faulty battery switch", it had gaffer tape on it! fuck me!

          comes with 2 keys/remotes but only one at a time works, disconnect the battery and looses info for remote which is ok, open door with remote 1 and close door now apparently its learned the remote and works, no idea how to pair the 2nd remote as the same shit don't work, disconnect the battery and do the same with the 2nd remote and works but no idea how to pair the 1st remote, my guess is they either have a master/slave remote or there is learning function which I haven't found out, comes with manual, haven't read it yet!

          has slight faded paint on bonnet from what I can see, don't bother me, I bought it to take my bike to the bike track and ride to work from there so it will be left outside 100% of the time for now, interior is pretty damn mint for the age almost feel guilty leavign it in the sun, booth has some sheepskin covers, might look at that as the leather is in really good condition

          as long as it takes me to the train station/bike way and can tow my boat about 1.8km I'm super happy! apart from that I'll try and get into 4x4'ing and see where it takes me, if I like it it's only a few grand vs plonking 30k for an FJ or Wrangler

          I think the newer P38 come with the Bosch thing but from what I understood you can just change to gen3 19lb injectors on the GEMS engine and you get 90% of the newer engine characteristics without all the crap associated with the newer one electronics and O2 sensors and shit, reminds me of the EFI XF Falcon with AU injectors, fucking massive difference for fuck all money
          Originally posted by BeverlyHillsCop
          I think u should marry her... slip the ring inside your ass and next time she goes in, she'll come out with a ring on her finger...

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            #6
            Yeah '96 is still GEMS.

            I've got the factory manuals with wiring diagrams, electrical troubleshooting guide and a few other dealer documents for it.

            Send me a PM with your email address i'll give you a link to my dropbox to download them.
            Jaguar XJR, Freelander 2 HSE, Jaguar XKR, MINI Cooper S
            Originally posted by nutttr
            People must assume you are some sort of drug dealer with all these nice cars turning up to a fibro home

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              #7
              What sort of $ are these worth?
              I climbed Mt Druitt

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                #8
                Most guys wreck them out or pay a scrapie lol. Should be good off road with coiled live axles. Good thing about old rovers is that by this age every single possible problem has occured and been solved diy, most stuff is a Google away from an answer.

                I'm still tempted by L322s and even d3/4s have caught my interest.... they are a bloody sickness.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bigshipengine.jpg View Post
                  What sort of $ are these worth?
                  not as much as someone would think, probably paid 1k too much than scrapyard because of the interior and overall condition

                  Originally posted by da9jeff View Post
                  Most guys wreck them out or pay a scrapie lol. Should be good off road with coiled live axles. Good thing about old rovers is that by this age every single possible problem has occured and been solved diy, most stuff is a Google away from an answer.

                  I'm still tempted by L322s and even d3/4s have caught my interest.... they are a bloody sickness.

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                  yeah with coil springs it's not bad, today I've looked at thy the climate was shit, one of the relay for one of the blower motors looks burned, will try and find some solid state ones and not fuck around with shitty ones, even a Navra one I used on the STI shat itself within a week driving the lights below the front bar, I reckon best bet for relay's now is to go to wreckers and get some really old ones, they seem to be miles better

                  today fixed the front tyre pressure, fuck me it was at 38psi, looked at what RL recommends and it's 28 front and 38 rear, now the front end is good and much smoother

                  wonder how well 18" would do on the beach

                  nerver liked the L322's they look like a really big barge and the rear is a bit "different" and the cut outs behind the front arches don't do it for me, don't like the LR3/4 either but do love the D2, i reckon the D2 and the P38 have that typical british look but meh, if it's going to last me a few years I'm happy, it's miles more comfortable than a patrol and cruiser at the same cost, some of the 80 series and 100 series are like 20k ... wtf!
                  Originally posted by BeverlyHillsCop
                  I think u should marry her... slip the ring inside your ass and next time she goes in, she'll come out with a ring on her finger...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by irsa76 View Post
                    Lol, between your bikes, Alfa and BMW, and god knows what else, I don't thing a P38 would be an issue for you.
                    Alfa is so simple it's a piece of cake to work on (And reliable). BMW is reliable. Ditto bikes. Had a 2001 Rover 75, hence the fear.
                    While I have no doubt I could work on one, it's the time it consumes these days...
                    "Where can we get hold of a Vincent Black Shadow?" "Whats that?" "A fantastic bike," I said. "The new model is something like two thousand cubic inches, developing two hundred brake-horsepower at four thousand revolutions per minute on a magnesium frame with two styrofoam seats and a total curb weight of exactly two hundred pounds."

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by XFJET View Post
                      if it's going to last me a few years I'm happy, it's miles more comfortable than a patrol and cruiser at the same cost, some of the 80 series and 100 series are like 20k ... wtf!
                      Exactly the same thing that sucked me in with the Discovery :rotflol:

                      I think the biggest issue with these was the airbag suspension which you no longer have and the 4.6 dropped cylinder liners - they are the big one. Other than that i think its all bullshit electrical stuff thats pretty well documented.

                      Will be following this and seeing how you go
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                        #12
                        Same 80 series price thing that saw me buying the Jeep.

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                          #13
                          so bought a 4x4

                          well I sat in an 80 series and GU patrol and fuck me I understand they are supposed to be reliable as hell and awesome but you literally have fuck all comfort or fee like you're going to get syphilis any minute, would rather buy a Defender and at least have some style/class

                          all the 80 series and Patrols under 10k were for sale by 3 toothed yobo's or single mums who blew them up and wanted over 10k for a GU patrol with a blown engine, then there was one GU I had a look at and it would not started, asked for some water, poured it over the pump waited 2min she started right up, bitch din't want to sell it after that, my guess is she will carry a 5L water bottle around all the time, both 80/100 series and GU's have had the rear filled with stupid cages and fridges and shit that it's unusable unless you're camping 100% of the time, wtf with the 3-4" lift as well they are all jacked up and creak, the 2.8L Patrol is an understatement to biped power, literally. The Toyota petrol engine can barely move the car at high way speeds up a slight incline without feeling guilty at the amount of fuel used

                          even had a look at some Surf's with the 3.0 and i could just not fit in them comfortably also 50% had overheating issues the rest were apparent fixed with a new head so in the end rather than unfuck someone else's problem I got the cleanest P38 under 5k, lucky it had the air suspension taken out properly and looks to be serviced properly.

                          I had a look at a TD5 disco but again you pay so much more for the diesel to the point where i would have to own the car for 10 years to make it even and suffer 10 years of driving slug. Test drove a chipped TD5 and yeah it was a little better but my guess is that it would not last at that power level. Test drove an ES with the 4L V8, well test drove a few and one had a massive fire that they tried to clean up and one was from a FIFO family or some shit, sheila was selling it on behalf of husband, she took the plates off as it's ready for sale, got there touched the engine was hot was like what happened? "oh i took it around the block for a bit" told her ok i'm going to come back tomorrow when the engine is stone cold, it had a new radiator. Next day same shit, told her you either do not start the car or I'm not coming back! went there without calling at 8PM, engine was cold, started it up sounded a bit dud then yeah dropped sleeve, walked away, she offers 1k, still walked away

                          So now I had a better look at this P38 and it seems I need to replace a ball joint, lower one passenger side, the booth is split so that's a bummer! my guess is that I either pay someone to do it or find a fucking big ball joint tool!

                          The relay for the AC blower motor was bit charred so I need to find one similar to this, I think these are normally open? and replace it and probably find the cause, shit don't just char up for no reason, my guess is a bad earth somewhere

                          Originally posted by BeverlyHillsCop
                          I think u should marry her... slip the ring inside your ass and next time she goes in, she'll come out with a ring on her finger...

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                            #14
                            I'd working on figuring out what is drawing so much current.

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                              #15
                              Similar scenario but didn't have the money or need for a new 4x4 so ended up with a 120 series Prado.

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