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    #16
    I’m running Dick Cepek Trail Country EXP. 285/70/17
    there are excellent in mud and Rocky ruts and surprisingly good on the road wet and dry.
    sand not super awesome but mainly due to super strong sidewall not bagging out at 17psi.
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      #17
      Originally posted by Babalouie View Post

      You reckon going too extreme on mud tyres is not so good for a Pajero?
      Not that so much, it's more that those particular mud tyres are very heavy. Need to go for a lighter set.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Greg Rust View Post
        I’m running Dick Cepek Trail Country EXP. 285/70/17
        there are excellent in mud and Rocky ruts and surprisingly good on the road wet and dry.
        sand not super awesome but mainly due to super strong sidewall not bagging out at 17psi.
        Run them at 12, will be fine on sand then.

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          #19
          Originally posted by MartyHusseinXF View Post

          Run them at 12, will be fine on sand then.
          yea it's not been an issue as I've not actually struggled but nice to know that I've got something in reserve.
          Funny part is for an RT tyre they are bloody good in the wet,
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          2007 KTM 250 SX

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            #20
            I've owned quite a few 4WD's over the years (9 all up) as well as been lucky enough to be closely associated with a 4WD specialist workshop here in Sydney for the last 30 odd years and get to regularly go away them and see what works and what doesn't on a variety of different vehicles.
            I understand what you are saying about "Heavy" tyres, but none of my vehicles have been standard, so the difference of 3-4kg is not a concern, especially when I am already changing from a factory 29"/30"" to 33" tyre in a number of my vehicles. On a standard vehicle or lightweight vehicle like a Vitara/ Sierra etc yes I am sure it would be much more of a concern.

            In many cases, I have two sets of rims / tyres and fit / chose the best for the 'occasion" Short of listing every vehicle and tyre combination I have had since my first in 1985, my experience is that the more aggressive (It's a common terminology when it comes to describing tyre pattern/design) - the better they are at clearing mud and clay from the blocks that gives the tyre the best opportunity to bite into the surface better. I mean you can have the best compound technology available to mankind to allow the best grip when they are not caked with mud...., but if the tread block spacing to too close, then the tyre will be useless in mud as it can not 'clean itself' and will end up being a slick.

            That is what my Comment was based on, the aggressiveness or tread block spacing. For example, I have a set of BFG KM2 on my Current Pajero and they are diabolical in the wet as mentioned - but I have a second set of ATs for the day to day driving and beach trips etc, so understand that they will never handle as good as a more road oriented tyre or all terrain and drive accordingly/use Constant 4WD when it's wet with the muddies on for the time being..
            I am reasonably happy with them in the mud, but have found that they don't self clean anywhere near as well as the original BFG KM1, I had previously.. (ironically, the Wrangler MT/R i had on my 2007 Pajero were unbelievably great in the mud, which is a very similar pattern to the Original BFG.)

            I think that quite a few of the tyre manufacturers are now offering much more aggressive patterns in their AT range as there are no where near as many people nowadays that are prepared to spend the hour or so swapping over and back rims / tyres for their weekends away, so a more aggressive tyre is more appealing - even if half those buying them will actually need them. ( Just look at the amount of Rangers / Hiluxes etc getting around with 20" "muddies" that are like a 50 series sidewall)



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              #21
              Originally posted by Shep View Post
              By Far the best Off road tyres I have owned are silverstone MT117EX however even short on road trips were pretty unpleasant

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              These look near identical to the set of Simex Centepedes we put on a SWB pajero as a joke for a weekend to the Watagans / Awaba. It was unstoppable, but FMD it was horrendous on the highway run up thee - anything over about 80km and it just floated and the steering wheel offered only "suggested" variations to the actual direction it wanted to go.

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                #22
                Originally posted by MartyHusseinXF View Post

                Not that so much, it's more that those particular mud tyres are very heavy. Need to go for a lighter set.
                Ah, righto
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Babalouie View Post

                  Ah, righto
                  You don't want to put a set of muddies on your Evo Pajero Kev. It will be a huge backwards step in the handling that the EVOPAJ has...

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Southo View Post

                    You don't want to put a set of muddies on your Evo Pajero Kev. It will be a huge backwards step in the handling that the EVOPAJ has...
                    I have a set of muddies on a spare set of rims, and ATs on the car
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                      #25
                      Fair enough,
                      You will certainly feel a difference..

                      If you want the best handling, then get a set of OEM style Highway tyres (eg, Bridgestone Dueler 840 / 684 or Dunlop AT22 etc)
                      They will be fine for running around the sand dunes / beaches etc, but offer much better on-road handling..
                      The wider the tread blocks ( great for Mud cleaning etc) and the more they will squirm about on the road.

                      Also, if you are planning on taking it off road - be really careful of the plastics.. (especially the side steps - they are basically made from unobtanium )

                      EDIT,
                      Actually, with the compliance process, - are you allowed to keep those tyres or do you have the swap them over to new / local ones
                      (The spare set can obviously be brought in as "Parts" but I thought that for compliance - new tyres were required ???? )




                      Last edited by Southo; 04-11-20, 07:52 PM.

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