So...the TRD Aurion

[wiggah]

dude, if it's $44,990 i'll buy one tomorrow...

the zx6 which is a very lightly warmed over aurion is already $42k

I would be suggesting that they have a hard time fitting it under the $57k LCT

now back to some more serious news:

i am still struggling to understand why it would be anywhere near 60k.

look at the price difference between a futura and an xr6 turbo. would that not be a similar comparison? (futura is $39,290. xr6 turbo is $42,990).

if its over 50k, it'll be a flop, and deservedly so.

[wiggah]

now back to some more serious news:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/4739/lim...-spec-typhoon/

now that's the shizzle

typhoons are starting to be had slightly below $55k onroad new! absolute bargain at that price.. i just couldn't bring myself to spend the roughly 18k extra on top of what i paid for my xr6t onroad for the extras it comes with.

[TonyJZX]

i am still struggling to understand why it would be anywhere near 60k.

look at the price difference between a futura and an xr6 turbo. would that not be a similar comparison? (futura is $39,290. xr6 turbo is $42,990).

if its over 50k, it'll be a flop, and deservedly so.

i'm only going on the RRP as published on their webpage

one can hardly expect all that work to be bought for a mere $49,990 when the base use is $42,990...

I see what you mean later on though... they can very well ask for $59,990 like FPV and HSV but undoubtedly you will see the $52k driveaway deals

I would assume Toyota would position the TRD as an FPV/HSV type brand and not an inhouse SS/XR type sport model...they have that already with the SX/ZX

I know how weaksauce that is - I know the ZX/SX is no more than the 380sx and basic XR non turbo/SV6 reheatings... this isn't my opinion... it's how the want their respective whitegoods to duke it out

[audineil]

I am not particularly a Toyota fan, but I would choose Toyota build quality, precision and technology over Ford or Holden any day.

In my view, that makes a TRD Aurion worth more than an XR6 Turbo or an SS Commodore.

I know I am in the minority, but I do care about panel fit, casting quality and cast component finishing, machining precision, paint finish, neatness of wiring looms, quality of electrical connections, accuracy of plastic mouldings etc etc etc.

It is just a case of "would I be happy walking up to my car every day and seeing all of these irritating quality issues staring me in the face"? No!

But that is just me.

Neil

[[SPESHAL]]

I've only driven an XR6T briefly, but drive normal XR6's and Aurions regularly. If the XR6T is just an XR6 with a turbo strapped on, give me the TRD Aurion any day of the week. Hell give me a normal Aurion even.

[trent from punchy]

a top level aurion is 49990.

base spec is 34990.

my guess TRD will be somewhere above 50, closer to 60.

[BENN0]

I am not particularly a Toyota fan, but I would choose Toyota build quality, precision and technology over Ford or Holden any day.

In my view, that makes a TRD Aurion worth more than an XR6 Turbo or an SS Commodore.

I know I am in the minority, but I do care about panel fit, casting quality and cast component finishing, machining precision, paint finish, neatness of wiring looms, quality of electrical connections, accuracy of plastic mouldings etc etc etc.

It is just a case of "would I be happy walking up to my car every day and seeing all of these irritating quality issues staring me in the face"? No!

But that is just me.

Neil

Do people still seriously believe that the Toyota end product is streets ahead of the other local guys?

[wiggah]

a top level aurion is 49990.

base spec is 34990.

my guess TRD will be somewhere above 50, closer to 60.

the top level aurion is 49990 because its a luxury version. its hard to guestimate the TRD aurion price based on this...

e.g. fairmont ghia vs xr6 turbo.. fairmont ghia is substantially more expensive.

[Captiva Fan]

Do people still seriously believe that the Toyota end product is streets ahead of the other local guys?

Yes, mostly because it still is.
I don't kow how they do it - there's probably all sorts of black magic & virgin sacrifice involved - but they still do it model after model.

[oldcorollas]

Yes, mostly because it still is.
I don't kow how they do it - there's probably all sorts of black magic & virgin sacrifice involved - but they still do it model after model.

initial design and.... good old quality control.
the toyota manufacturing method works, and they insist on high quality and accuracy.

when i was working for a foundry, there was a big difference in the standards required for local (falcamagnadore) product and japanese products, from metal composition to heat treatment to dimensional accuracy.

local product was "she'll be roight", and exported product was "oh shit, they might send it back if they aren't satisfied"....

[Nero]

attention to detail and manufacturing process refinement. I posted a good link some time back about this from the new york times. No mystery, just better business practices.

[kabab]

I've worked with Ford, Holden, Toyota...

Toyota > * in terms of everything.

[trent from punchy]

the top level aurion is 49990 because its a luxury version. its hard to guestimate the TRD aurion price based on this...

e.g. fairmont ghia vs xr6 turbo.. fairmont ghia is substantially more expensive.

yes but a xr6t isnt an FPV, and HSV/FPV is closer to what TRD are aiming at i think.

[audineil]

yes but a xr6t isnt an FPV, and HSV/FPV is closer to what TRD are aiming at i think.

No!

Quality of manufacture is systemic. It matters not whether a car is being sold as a taxi or a "premium" model. The basic product quality is often the same.

Some manufacturers have worked out that the difference between $35000 and $80000 occurs in the marketing department not on the factory floor, because marketing is cheaper than engineering.

Of course, with some manufacturers, the engineering department is still more important than marketing. I would prefer to buy from them.

Neil

[kabab]

Its all bout selling a perception...

Thats what BMW and Merc mainly play on..