Do you carry a spare wheel/tyre?

[mx6KLZE]

I want to go back to the question of torque steer and wonder how it is not a problem. It is a fucking huge problem and anyone who has driven really powerful FWD cars knows this.

I have driven cars like rogercordia's (by like I mean shitheap Cordias with dash conversions) with upwards of 350HP and they are fucking dangerous to use much more than 25% throttle on any suburban street.

Yes Torque steer is a cunt and I wish it didnt exist but im making do with what i have got. I find it hard to handle 300whp for instance (lets just say) but in a rwd car with 400whp you will find it hard getting on it in a suburan street as well.

When im driving around suburbs, I have boost set to 3psi and that is enough to overtake some wanker hogging the right lane but definately nothing to get excited about. 8 psi will be for WSID as I really want to be able to break into a low 13. But when im on an open track 8psi at 100kms/hr + is still managable. 300whp at speed 100kms+ is not that hard to manage even in a fwd car. It is at 60 K's in 2nd gear that it wants to go sideways.

Again, not saying I have 300whp because I know someone will jump on it.

[mx6KLZE]

You don't even know what car he is talking about there.

I went through that list very quickly and saw soarer and moved on . Could those cars on that list get 10L/100kms? . This is a daily driver.

EDIT after pics: One thing about 80's cars is you add a bodykit and they look like a big muscle car. yes that car looks fucking awesome, i dont need my eyes checked. And so does the corrolla. But for my ownership, i would prefer a rounder 90's car because that is my taste. Would I drive the corrolla, fucking yes, would the gf like it, nar she wouldnt. Mx6's with bodykits tend to look like F & F dummy cars like say an FTO with a big bodykit.

TonyGTST, yes that is exactly my situation, kinda. I thought about buying another car. i desperately want a series 5 rx7. But if i got one I would do something sacrilege and I would put a KLZE in the rx7. I couldnt take just being another rotary owner, it would have to be different. ive had a taste of being original and I like it. I could never own a typical modified car. I know pf hates FWD cars.

1 month ago i convinced myself to get a Series 5 and leave the the mx6 as my daily driver because at the end of the day, it does get 10L/100kms. But i figured, 10k for a series 5, would do a big difference to the mx6. So i said fuck it and im sticking with this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8ynS5GkWO8

10.7 sec KLZE using the stock "torque steering" G series gearbox. still a 2.5Litre, just forged internals and nothing special engine work (ported head, custom cams etc). Still driven on the street, road registered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPB1TrExobs
Mx6 at laguna seca.

Is the mx6 as good of a platform as other cars, no. Is it hopeless, no.

[psi999]

But for my ownership, i would prefer a rounder 90's car because that is my taste.

33 GTR over a 32 GTR?

(1994 R32 Vs 1995 R33 to make car age fair, but 32 came out in 89.)

[mx6KLZE]

R32GTR is exception. same as R32 GTS-t. The mean boxy look of the R32 is awesome.

Just like i would prefer the Ae86 shape over a 1998 toyota corrolla seca.
But I would prefer a FD rx7 shape over an FC.

generally though, car shapes get nicer as time moves on.

With mx6's, I think I like the look of my 90's model better, but i can see why the older mx6's boxy shape looks alot more aggressive. I wont deny that the 90's mx6 looks very girly, like an FTO does. It is the curves .

fwd cars will always be disadvantaged against rwd cars. Braking/steering/power on one end of the car is fucking stupid when it comes to wanting to go fast. They were made for fuel economy and light weightness in mind. But hey if honda owners and corrolla owners and SSS owners can modify their cars without hastle, why cant I. When you see an integra overtaking a Skyline or silvia on track videos, it just shows that it is a disadvantage but not a massive one, like say racing a push bike would be.

PS Takai I dont think I will beat your time. But when my car is done I bet _you_ driving my car around you would have a much better chance to beat your fwd corrolla.

[HoonBoy]

We don't have an issue with your car, we have an issue with how often you mention that it is the bestesterer car ever.

[crack]

i don't leave anything unnecessary in my car (i will seriously check from time to time to see if any change has fallen out of my pockets under the seats). this is not to save weight but to satisfy my mild obsessive compulsiveness. taking the spare tyre out for super street speed is just plain fucken boy racer. ffs grow up.

[Euroboost]

Saw some poor bugger with a flat space saver today. Bad luck really sucks.
Just remembered mum swapped the space savers for full size spares on her 121 bubble and Honda Civic.

[tinkers]

Geez nearly needed cliff notes to get through all that.

I carry a spare although its 14in and my current wheels are 13in.
But since I cant buy 13s (with decent width) any more I have to buy both new wheels and tyres which I'm not looking forward too.
I also have a full toolbox (so my sons cant keep pinching my tools), extra wheel nuts for the spare horriblewire (AKA Hotwire mag) Trolley jack, various spare hoses and bits for "just in case".
Most of that has been in the boot since I drove Brisbane to Perth and I havent bothered to take them out.

[mx6KLZE]

We don't have an issue with your car, we have an issue with how often you mention that it is the bestesterer car ever.

I didnt say that. That is what ive been trying to explain. I never mention anything about my car. When I ask questions on PF, I dont even make it specific about my car because I know everyone will jump on it and make assumptions. I ask about the issue generally rather then my car specific because everyone is a hero and jumps at a chance to put words in my mouth. I dont mind that much, that is PF, I just avoid it if I can. The only time I talk up my car, is if someone talks it down first. Its not that bad, i like it .

You(everyone) assumed that because I dont carry a spare that I think my car is that much more faster, and that it is awesome. Dont assume anything. What about the other 33 people that dont carry a spare tyre, is it because they are breaking world records to get to work like me?

My spare, is a uni directional 15" wheel(I have 17's), that has no tread and was in the car when i bought it 4 years ago. I dont go on long trips, uni is 15kms away if that, my best mate is a mechanic, who will help if I get fucked up, hasnt happened yet, but I have helped him. To me, the spare is useless weight, and clutter. I hate clutter, which is why I fuck off clothes and cables and books(im not as paranoid as loose change though). And those wheel nuts when they are in the back rattle like a bitch.

It isnt because it will make my trip to work 45 seconds shorter, it is because there is no point to having it there. Why dont I just carry a 25kg tool box as well just in case. Long trips are different.

[Captiva Fan]

it may be pretty good for in many ways PF is very traditional about the way it goes about things

Actually ... another way you could say that is a lot of us old-folk around here, with our walking-frames etc, can see the dumb choices we made with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, and we pooh-pooh the same dumb choices when made by people we're pretty sure we've informed about how dumb those choices are.
Of course we kinda forget that if anyone had informed us they were dumb choices we'd probably have made 'em anyway.

Dropping $15k on an MX6 is probably barely any worse than dropping double that on a Volvo 240 ...

Oh, and on-topic: I bought 5 Simmons FR17's for Project Big Red Car, 'cos in my mind one of the big pointers to the crapness of project-cars is the lack of a matching spare.

[mx6KLZE]

Actually, if my spare was the same as my wheels I have now, I would probably carry it.

[tut]

Following on from the runflat thread-

So, in normal city driving do you carry a spare?

i dont.

no, i put it in the spare tyre well in the trunk.

[tut]

Just thinking the same thing.

I dont, for reasons:
1. Extra weight means more fuel, I drive very light, I dont like extra clothes in my car.

4. My spare is a 15" wheel anyway, and I have 17's

6. Car tyres arent what they were in the 1970's. I get new tyres maybe once 12 months - 18 months like most people. A tyre shouldnt go flat on its on in 18 months. Unless you run over something etc, and even then they are pretty strong. Only have to worry about the odd nail.

1: completely agree. i wash my hands before i leave, cause dirty hands weigh more than clean hands. . .
4: my spare wheel is a 16" space saver. my normal wheels are 15". . . . . .
6: most of the times i needed my spare wheel, whas because of a fucked rim. . . i only once ran flat (with mum's car) because of a mal-aligned tyre, that leaded to wear through, while still having a seemingly good profile on the side you can easily check (rear wheels inner side was worn through)
nails and screws and shit can get in, but they hardly ever really blow your tyre out, you'll more often have a graduatly leaking tyre . . . .

yeah, that's my experienc . . . .

[tut]

Jeesus wanker much?

Do you have a shave, take a dump and then nude up before you get in the car?

got problems with that?

[Esteban]

I used liquid patch on a certain 265/35/18 with 80% tread last friday night. The stuff works pretty well, and I managed to drive around on the tyre without deflation.

Once the tyres get hot however, the liquid patch fails. So trying to remove the remaining 80% smoke out of the tyre was total fail.

I was carrying a spare however it will not fit over the supra 4/2 setup on the front

Tyre was illegal to repair as some dumbfuck's 3.5mm drillbit went through the sidewall and made a tiny hole... I might try a bikepatch or similar on the tyres, as I kept them after replacing them with Proxies of the same size yesterday. Old tyres wont see any road use.

And yeah, tyrepower were pissed to find the tyre full of slime!