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    #31
    Buy mine Mark.

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    Have you heard??

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      #32
      nah, if i was buying atm, which im not, a 12k aristo is hard to go past.
      www.markpakula.com
      2017 Subaru Impreza Hatch - for the grind
      2015 Cervelo S2 - for the fitness
      2005 Honda Accord Euro - for the wife
      2010 BMW S1000RR - for the sanity

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        #33
        righto I'm looking at 2 outbacks tonight (both 2.5) and tomorrow morning a H6 and a heritage.

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          #34
          Originally posted by dojobi View Post
          I found the opposite to be true to be honest.

          Both engines are absolutely gutless, so why bother paying extra for the H6's fuel if you're not going to enjoy it.

          I have heard that the newer 6s were a lot quicker, but you're talking a lot more money for those.
          I didn't say the engine was frighteningly powerful, I said it was a much nicer engine. It has nowhere near the NVH levels of an EJ engine and that is noticeable when driving either car.

          The 6 costs less to service because it has less serviceable items(timing belt, seals, tensioners, idlers etc) and it's fuel consumption is no more on the highway and buggerall more in town.

          My opinion based on direct involvement with both cars and being a Subaru mechanic.
          David Fraser - Automotive Historian!

          Originally posted by bigmuz
          You can't polish a turd but you can put 600hp in it and laugh your fucking arse off coming past someone sideways at Powercruise.

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            #35
            Fair enough mate. I'm by no means a mechanic, so I was just going off the few drives I've had in an H6 outback. I couldn't comment on the servicing side at all. It just really disappointed me performance wise, so I couldn't see the appeal. I went for a spin in one of the current shape 3.0s and it was MUCH better.

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              #36
              slight change of track, more curiosity than anything

              anyone opinion on an audi a4 wagon vs outback?

              the audi is 2-3yrs older for the same price

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                #37
                Originally posted by sejanus View Post
                slight change of track, more curiosity than anything
                anyone opinion on an audi a4 wagon vs outback?
                the audi is 2-3yrs older for the same price
                My gut-feel comfort-level thingy would have me in the Subaru, but the Audi is more interesting to me. I dunno if your missus has any real interest in cars, but the Audi should have an interior that looks & feels to be of higher quality, and that might interest her.
                Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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                  #38
                  Love euro cars... but.. loath to recommend "old" ones.

                  On that note though... how much are 1.8T VW Passat Wagons of the 2000+ vintage?

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                    #39
                    What about an older Sti/WRX? Especially if she drove your old Sti well.
                    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower." - Mark Donahue Penske Porsche 917

                    "In Japan we no give fark for Subaru" - Trust Japan Technical Director
                    (TM - AVENGE)

                    "You can never have enough power. I remember when we had Group B cars... THEN we had enough power!"
                    Juha Kankkunen - Rally of Argentina '02

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                      #40
                      yeah i wouldnt mind a rex wagon but she parks is at the train station each day

                      anyway i have driven 4 outbacks now. the only decent one was manual so she doesn't want that (bloody women). The one I just drove then looked great, but when I drove it the auto did a bloody huge "thunk" going from 1st to 2nd. sigh.

                      The other 2 drove ok but had heaps of scratches interior & exterior. One had lots of overspray in engine bay presumably from a crash.

                      will look at more in a week or 2 when I get time

                      edit - the 2.5 is shockingly underpowered. floor it and the car barely moves I reckon my ss could reverse faster.

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