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    #91
    Originally posted by fly510 View Post
    As an aside I am wondering whether anyone has considered making there coilovers for the front. Sure there is heaps of units off the shelf but this would enable me to select the right shock (bilstein is my preference) and have it valved to the spring rate I select.

    I reckon it can be done for between 1000 - 1500 for the fronts and when compared to a set of decent teins which are 3500 (front & rears) it starts to stack up. Anyway its just something I am thinking about.
    Benski is doing this this weekend (I hope to assist/have a geez at it as I want to do this as well) on his Maserati...

    http://www.performanceforums.com/for...php?t=67241757

    ...using info taken from...

    http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=69493

    Originally posted by mspiegle View Post
    I just finished doing the driver's side strut tube and coilover assembly. I took some pictures of the process and i'm going to outline what needs to be done from start to finish. Unfortunately, to do this yourself, you'll need some pricey tools (cut-off saw, welder, grinders, sawzall, etc).



    First, we need to remove the spring perch. I used a sawzall with bi-metal blades to accomplish this. I would also suggest using this method as it was VERY easy:



    You'll also want to grind down what's left of the spring perch. I used a dremel with a sanding drum attachment. I think there are better ways to do this since it took a while. It might have just been the shitty sanding drums I was using:



    This is the point of no return:



    Ever wanted to know what your strut tube looks like on the inside? Didn't think so...:



    Prepping the strut tube for welding:



    I removed 1" of metal from the tube in order to make use of the shocks which are 4" shorter. I decided to go with 1" because its easier to remove more later than try to put it back. In order to secure the shock properly in the tube, i'll need to add in a 3" spacer (shock is 4" shorter, so I remove 1" from strut tube and use a spacer to take up the rest of the length difference):



    I prepped both pieces for welding and used a magnetic jig to align the 2 pieces of tube. I then made a few tack welds, removed the jig, and welded all the way around:



    This is after I welded. I wish the picture wasn't so blurry, but you get the idea. You can see the adjustable sleeve support (new perch) on the bottom of the picture. I wish there was a little more to it (its just a piece of pipe), but I guess it gets the job done:



    Regardless of how much material you remove from the strut tube, you must always ensure that the top of the adjustable sleeve is flush with the top of the tube. This gives you a reference point of where to weld the support ring (new perch). In order to fit the support ring in the right place, I had to grind my weld down and "press" the ring over the weld. I initially thought there was a much better way to do this, but having the support ring "pressed" onto the weld area functioned as a jig so I could make my tack welds. Its just time consuming to grind the weld down:



    This is after I welded the ring on with the adjustable sleeve in place. It just sits on top of the ring:



    Here is the spacer I made. Its 1/8" thick tubing cut to approximately 3":



    I slid the spacer and shock into the tube. I then bolted it all down with a stock holding nut:



    Unfortunately, the stock holding nut is too large for the 60MM ID springs. I had to grind it down in order to use it. I'm gonna look into getting a smaller nut since its still very close:



    This is the "finished" assembled product:



    This is with the assembly semi-mounted to the car:



    I put the assembly in a vise and mounted a wheel to get an idea of what the clearance would be like. The example is of a stock 195/65/14 wheel and tire. The wheels/tires I will be using are 16x8 20MM offset and 245/45/16. I'm expecting to do LOTS of fender rolling and a 10mm spacer:

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      #92
      Originally posted by fatz View Post
      ohh and rb's dont sound like shit
      Watch out, you'll get the SR loving brigade in here again :p
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        #93
        Originally posted by fatz View Post
        sr's ar great for a super sprint engine

        do more than 5 laps hard though and they have a tendancy to melt
        shitloads of them in IPRA and Sport Sedan racing that would disagree. could you be a bit more specific than "tendancy to melt"?

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          #94
          people in IPRA have an idea and install massive oil cooling and rads lrge sump ect

          your general track hack with decent power > 250 killer wasps (ipra probably have less at the tyres due to restricor)= dead engine
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            #95
            On your budget, I'd be looking for something aspirated & very light.
            Originally posted by 350stato
            100% agree with Shifty

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              #96
              my $9K ex drifter track hack has oil cooler and alloy rad. Sump is on the list of things to add. Water temp sat on 85degrees and didn't budge for 5 lap sessions at its first outing last weekend at Lakeside.

              NA is not a cheap way to do any sort of decent lap times. What are you going to get that's NA & very light that will even get a sniff of which way a basic 200rwkw S13 went?

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                #97
                Originally posted by Unfinished Project View Post
                On your budget, I'd be looking for something aspirated & very light.
                too late, I have bought an s14 as I posted earlier. Too many off the shelf good bits to ignore.

                Originally posted by hrd View Post
                my $9K ex drifter track hack has oil cooler and alloy rad. Sump is on the list of things to add. Water temp sat on 85degrees and didn't budge for 5 lap sessions at its first outing last weekend at Lakeside.

                NA is not a cheap way to do any sort of decent lap times. What are you going to get that's NA & very light that will even get a sniff of which way a basic 200rwkw S13 went?
                The car I bought already has an ARC extra volume baffled sump and an upgraded radiator. It also has a couple of defi guages including water & oil temp which I'll be paying close attention to on its first outing.

                If need be I'll fit an oil cooler which I'll do around the time I up the power output.

                I've been investigating suspension options this morning and I think I have found a setup I'm comfortable with.
                RB26......................Again

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                  #98
                  Don't get me wrong, something turbo will always be faster and the more 'factory' you can keep it the more reliable it will be, and the more modern it is the more aftermarket support will be.

                  I'm just talking about the 'real' cost of ownership with bigger & faster cars being harder tyres, brakes & fuel. I've no doubt you'll be bloody quick in an S14.
                  Originally posted by 350stato
                  100% agree with Shifty

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                    #99
                    yeah but atmo cars are gay. the addition cost of something thats faster/fun/more challenging is worth it imho.

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                      In terms of cooling the rad is more important than the oil cooler and the baffled sump is needed because you will get oil surge. When I had a standard sump on my S14 and a warning light set to 20psi I would have it flashing away almost every corner up the old road, I put the baffled sump on very quickly. The other most important bit is make sure you bleed the cooling system properly, I suspect this is where a lot of issues arise.

                      For the suspension you might want to give heasmans a call and ask to speak to jono (not sure if he is a member here). He runs his daily series 1 S14 at a lot of supersprints (wakefield mid 7's, full weight 'cos it's a daily, about 170rwkw) and has spent a hell of a lot of time testing different valving with the bilsteins. I suspect he knows more about setting up dampers for an S14 than almost anyone else in the country these days.

                      Dunno if I would bother with the S15 injectors, they don't have enough flow to cope with standard turbo/3" exhaust/ic/tune/cams so if you get some you might as well go 550's or 720's (unless you get the S15 ones dirt dirt cheap)

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                        Originally posted by IMOA View Post
                        In terms of cooling the rad is more important than the oil cooler and the baffled sump is needed because you will get oil surge. When I had a standard sump on my S14 and a warning light set to 20psi I would have it flashing away almost every corner up the old road, I put the baffled sump on very quickly. The other most important bit is make sure you bleed the cooling system properly, I suspect this is where a lot of issues arise.

                        For the suspension you might want to give heasmans a call and ask to speak to jono (not sure if he is a member here). He runs his daily series 1 S14 at a lot of supersprints (wakefield mid 7's, full weight 'cos it's a daily, about 170rwkw) and has spent a hell of a lot of time testing different valving with the bilsteins. I suspect he knows more about setting up dampers for an S14 than almost anyone else in the country these days.

                        Dunno if I would bother with the S15 injectors, they don't have enough flow to cope with standard turbo/3" exhaust/ic/tune/cams so if you get some you might as well go 550's or 720's (unless you get the S15 ones dirt dirt cheap)
                        IMOA - I was hoping you might offer up an opinion on this topic as one of the QLD fellas mentioned you previously had a quick s14. Funnily enough I spent some time on the phone to Jon this morning and got him to run me through the options available through heasmans.

                        I have dealt with those guys before with some custom bits and it was a good experience so I'll see how I go but it looks promising.

                        I already have the s15 injectors in the shed so cost is $0 and I wasn't planning on doing cams just a Z32 AFM and a nistune so I was assuming (was gunna confirm with unigroup) that the s15's will support up to around 180 - 190rwkw. Nothing locked in there either just looking at my options.
                        RB26......................Again

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                          Yeah, if they're in the shed then chuck them in, they should be fine with a Z32/nistune as long as the fuel system is in good condition. It's the extra 15-20rwkw and great gains in airflow up high with the cams that pushes things beyond their limit. If it's still a standard fuel pump you might want to think about changing it as it will be getting well on in years.

                          Biggest gains will be from a severe diet though, I reckon you should be able to get down around 1100kg for a street registered S14 that does need any comforts

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                            yep a bosch 040 will be part of any eng mods that I carry out.

                            it says 1210kg on the rego papers and I had the 100kg mark in mind for weight loss. Air con system, rear seat & trim, spare & jack + all the boot linings, carpet.

                            I plan to get it weighed when I'm done to confirm the result.

                            Got any suggestions on eng & box oils?
                            RB26......................Again

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                              Originally posted by hrd View Post
                              NA is not a cheap way to do any sort of decent lap times. What are you going to get that's NA & very light that will even get a sniff of which way a basic 200rwkw S13 went?
                              That only matters if it's about ego.

                              Originally posted by tim510 View Post
                              yeah but atmo cars are gay. the addition cost of something thats faster/fun/more challenging is worth it imho.
                              Fast & turbo doesn't equal fun. The lack of throttle response in a turbo kills half the enjoyment in my opinion. I've driven some pretty quick turbo race cars and if the same power was available atmo, I'd go that way every time.
                              The most dangerous risk of all - the risk of spending your life not doing what you want, on the bet you can buy yourself the freedom to do it later. - Randy Komisar.

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                                Not to mention at the track day level there'll be plenty of cars with all manner of turbo/engine mods, yet stock brakes, suspension and weight...

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