Thoughts on 4stud to 5stud bolt on spacers

[NISMOgemini]

yeah true. i just dont like the idea of them in general... aluminum seems to easy to damage

[takai]

Not going to contest that Alu is easy to damage.

[Dave75]

I did a Preseason Audit on car with "slip on "spacers last year. Looked miles too wide when viewed thru the rim so got him to take the wheel off. The Ali spacer basically fell off the studs ... the stud holes were oval & at some stage the wheel nuts had been loose & the spacer had been slipping between the hub & rim ,damaging the studs. The driver couldn't understand why the Preseason Audit couldn't be completed!! He had tried to compensate for the wrong offset by fitting o/s spacers .

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Dave

[takai]

Yeah, im all against slipons (although i do run a 2mm on my car) but from my point of view bolt on steel spacers cant be THAT bad.

[Dave75]

2mm is more a shim than a spacer

[lysdexia]

those oval holed slip ons are fucking terrible

in my eyes, a good slip on (something that centres on the hub, fits the studs snugly and is almost a press fit), along with longer studs, would be less dodgy than a bolt on. of course spacers such as these don't exist commercially, you'd have to machine something up

[NISMOgemini]

agreed.. bolt on stud conversions just seem way to risky. more then the over sizes slide one ones

[takai]

Yeah, i saw the price of some too, and the thickness. Resigned myself to paying for 5 bolt hubs.
Still trying to decide whether to ues some 5 bolt bolt on spacers under the disc to gain a bit of track and make my brake caliper adaptor a bit easier.

[lysdexia]

have you considered having the existing hubs converted to 5 stud?

[NISMOgemini]

have you considered having the existing hubs converted to 5 stud?

i did this on mine. $125 each side, 5 stud to 4 studd

[jmac]

This is about as dangerous as it gets. They'll eventually fail, and almost certainly when exposed to the greatest schock loading, or force in general - and in general that'd be when cornering or braking the hardest (*or maybe accelerating) and they happen to be the times you'd least like it to happen.

Re: the fact some racers use them day in day out - all I can say is 'yes and there are men who fuck sheep'

[NISMOgemini]

u cant get new axels/hub what ever it is completely custom made?
might cost a bit, but its a pretty important part of the car

[takai]

i did this on mine. $125 each side, 5 stud to 4 studd

I can do that, but its hard. The hubs arnt perfectly round. See here:


This guy has had to get a whole chunk welded into the hub to provide the material to redrill.
For the sort of costs that that is ill just get the MS123 5stud hubs, which i have found a source for.

So ignore the 4-stud to 5stud conversion spacers, ive already decided not to go with those.

The spacers under the disc are because the JZA70 discs are a 68mm hat height wheras the MA61 are 60mm, and the extra 15mm per side would be a very nice track increase.

[NISMOgemini]

u could make it round and leave it round unless theres a reason for it to be like that.. if it is, im sure they could mill the chucks out of it if needed

[edo]

Well I had 5 stud hubs made up for the Capri, out of billet chromoly...they also use a much bigger wheel bearing than a Capri usually has (falcon instead of escort). Its expensive but fuck me, not doing it right could get much more expensive. Oh, yes so far they have not fallen off the stub axles while the car has been pushed around...the ultimate test.