You know that point in a car project...

[oxy]

As long as you cut a decent skid at this years PF Christmas Party, I don't care what you put in it

[TJ]

Well no not really

Stock turbos, cooler, zorst, safc, pump = 280-320ish rwhp - depends how healthy turbos are how much fuel wind out of it etc.

To go 400 you need either uprated singles which are hard to find, or a manifold, turbos, injectors, ecu, custom piping and dump plus tuning.

There goes 4k easy

[psi999]

9k for 300 & ~15k for ~450ish... seems well within reason to me.

or start with a 2JZ - my stock turbo auto aristo went 356rwhp with stock ECU (but then what box do you use - 1jz is all too easy & much more cost effective)

[TJ]

And probably would have gone 380 behind a manual with tons of useable power and torque.

But 2j 6 speed cuts are drug money.

1j definitely the cost effective winner

[Cal]

As long as you cut a decent skid at the 2023 PF Christmas Party, I don't care what you put in it

Fixed

[bahaimus]

Carnt

[Norbie]

I have an unopened 3.0 24v I6 in a Corona Mk2 with 48mm ITBs. Sounds porn, and was good enough for a 13.8 quarter and a 1:10 around Calder. Norbie's been in it. Does that make me cool or uncool?

It makes you even less cool than you were to begin with. Sorry about that.

Incidentally I'm sure I suffered permanent hearing damage after that blat around the suburbs of Melbourne.

Did you sell the century?

I reckon putting the 1j in Claytons merc is like putting an LS? in the century...

Nope, a V12 Century is unique and interesting, in large part because of the Jap V12 under the bonnet. No matter how much you like Mercs you can't say the same about a 190E or its powerplant.

Incidentally if I really did want to turn a Century into a cheap and cheerful track weapon an LSx would be pretty high on my list of engine conversion options. In terms of bang for your buck it would shit all over anything I could do with a 1GZ. These are the sort of things you have to consider when the budget is tight.

[Marv]

"Unique and interesting"? Do you have a Daimler Double Six too? Or any of those big Mercs from the '70s? How is a Century any more "unique and interesting" than them? Apart from the fact it was styled in the middle of a blackout by retarded monkeys and has a clunky old V12 that really isn't any good, that is.

[Norbie]

Are we talking about the same car here? The current Century and its all-alloy VVTi V12 engine was released in 1997, hardly "old and clunky". As for unique, how many Jap V12's have ever been built? Oh yeah, just that one.

Back on topic, I reckon 2JZ is the way to go, especially if a manual transmission has already been lined up (which I think it has). As mentioned earlier Aristo front cuts are pretty cheap and they already come with the correct sump. A reliable 300rwhp with arseloads of torque is as simple as an exhaust, intercooler and bleed valve. BTDT!

[The Pupat]

It would be worth the difference wouldnt it?

motor strength wise I don't think there is much in it, 'cept you get 20% more capacity. V160/1 box goes to bombproof instead of bulletproof though.

[psi999]

[Marv]

If the 190E is such an evil under-steerer, what is the extra weight of a 1/2J going to do to that?

Are we talking about the same car here? The current Century and its all-alloy VVTi V12 engine was released in 1997, hardly "old and clunky". As for unique, how many Jap V12's have ever been built? Oh yeah, just that one.

I meant the older ones, like that purple "VIP" convertible on here.

And if those are the criteria for desirable cars, I guess we better start saving Mazda Roadpacers, FWD Ferrari V8-powered Lancia Themas and the BMW 850CSi, too. Doesn't matter that they're all shitboxes, they're rare and interesting! This is how those Morris clubs got started and covered half of the over-50 car enthusiast population in tweed FFS.

A clean, tidy 190E is as interesting as a clean, tidy E30 BMW, is as interesting as a clean, tidy Toyota Century, which is less interesting than a new stock base-model 911 to most people.

[Shifty]

it was styled in the middle of a blackout by retarded monkeys

Props

and has a clunky old V12 that really isn't any good, that is.

What the fuck? Who are you and what have you done with sense and reason?

[psi999]

What the fuck? Who are you and what have you done with sense and reason?

....says the bloke with a turbo 1400cc motorbike

[Shifty]

1402cc thank you.