You know that point in a car project...

[bahaimus]

If the 190E is such an evil under-steerer, what is the extra weight of a 1/2J going to do to that?

Won't be any worse than current. It is already a 6 cylinder variant. But it will have improved suspension and tyres.

[TJ]

Why does it seem everyone is against this, well bar a couple of us?

This place thrives on different.

[Marv]

I'm against the juanjayzee in favour of an L98. I just don't rate the 1jz much anymore

[ALLMTR]

Yep I'm voting 6 litre and T56

[bahaimus]

V8 conversion of pretty much any sort would also necessitate a streeing rack conversion. Bit more fucking around than I care for.

[lotec]

V8 conversion of pretty much any sort would also necessitate a streeing rack conversion. Bit more fucking around than I care for.

Thanks for your input Clayto, but how about you sit back and let us decide what's best for you.

[Andrew Bolt]

Lol!

[JZK25]

You're dreaming if you think fitting an LSx to a foreign car, other than a bogan mobile, is going to be cheap. Custom extractors are not $250 on ebay. Steering conversions, starter relocations, cast alloy sump mods etc.

Mortgage, wife, kids, life = build what you can afford(and finish it) and be happy with that.

[Marv]

V8 conversion of pretty much any sort would also necessitate a streeing rack conversion. Bit more fucking around than I care for.

But aren't you making custom arms and what-not? Wouldn't this let you fix the oddball steering/handling that edo's been banging on about once and for all?

Sure, it's more work and expense, but if you add 6-12months to the project timeline and fix the fuggin' thing once and for all isn't that worth it?

[Andrew Bolt]

Rack and pinion conversion is a headfuck. I did this to put the 1UZ in the Crown. I ended up palming that off to someone.

Must admit, I'm a bit surprised the 190E has a steering box.

[edo]

Nope, a V12 Century is unique and interesting, in large part because of the Jap V12 under the bonnet. No matter how much you like Mercs you can't say the same about a 190E or its powerplant.

Only you & very few others think that a V12 Century is actually interesting, 99% of car people would regard it as some weird oddball jap thing & thats it. Thats fine, youre the only one who has to think its special.

A 6cyl 190E is more interesting than a 4cyl, but its ok, you dont have to like it. I still think bunging a bigger than intended with more valves etc merc donk in makes for something pretty cool, something that bunging a jap engine in doesnt.

It seems though that Clayton wants fast & more power over something cool...which begs the question why he started with this & not say an Aristo or Supra or something more normal.

[Dave]

1j

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[psi999]

I just don't rate the 1jz much anymore

I'd be curious to hear why & what changed your mind... personal experience?

Seems to tick all the boxes other than not being a Merc engine & slightly heavier due to turbo setup.

[Norbie]

Only you & very few others think that a V12 Century is actually interesting, 99% of car people would regard it as some weird oddball jap thing & thats it. Thats fine, youre the only one who has to think its special.

Nice theory, but in practice I get hassled for information about this car almost every time I take it out of the garage, and people are staring at the thing constantly. I'm not trying to say it's the most awesomest car in the world, but I find it hard to imagine a stock 190E would generate that much interest or attention, even among Merc fans.

I'd be curious to hear why & what changed your mind... personal experience?

Seems to tick all the boxes other than not being a Merc engine & slightly heavier due to turbo setup.

Precisely. A 1JZ/2JZ offers great bang for your buck, there's a huge amount of JZ-specific knowledge out there, massive aftermarket support, and above all it fits without major surgery. I have nothing against an LS1 conversion in principle but if getting it in will be a headfuck why even consider it? Apart from the fact some guy on the internet doesn't "rate" the alternative.

[Asteroid]

I'd stick with the Merc engine. Euro snobbery ftw!