Police chase end with Family dead and Facebook trolled

[Sirius18T]

How are the cops supposed to "catch him later"? It's a stolen car FFS. It's not like they can do a rego check and pay him a visit the next day. If they don't chase, then anyone can steal a car and it's all good......

[BevanChick]

I think people also need to consider that it's not always clear cut when a "pursuit" starts.

I don't know the details in this case, but I've seen plenty where cops have followed people, lights and sirens, for a fair distants where the dumb buggers didn't even realise the copes were behind them. In many cases, so dumb/drunk/high that they continued the foolish behaviour, including speeding, that drew the cops' attention in the first place.

So I guess, from a copper's perspective, it's not always an "ok, he's nicked off and started doing 200kph, we're having a pursuit" (although it may have been in this case).

[takai]

Knowing the stretch of road, and the idiots who frequent it, i daresay they saw the RBT/whatever and went "oh lets just outrun the coppers, because we have a rolling start and in a turdbro"

[Aaron]

The acco site is just down the road from my office - drove past it at lunchtime and there's a few things about it that really hit home when you see it...

The most notable is the fact that there's virtually no skidmarks before the impact point, and the debris field is fucking huge.

The Astina was turning onto Canberra Ave (left turn) from the Monaro Exit and was hit just on the Narrabundah side of the overpass. If the driver of the Astina was driving through a green light with no other traffic in the intersection he could have virtually appeared from no-where in front of the 626 at an easy 40+km/h (it's a nice sweep down onto Canberra Ave if you like driving).

If the chase started around where the NSW coppers usually work on the outskirts of QBN then it would have been on-like-Donkey-Kong for only a few minutes - not enough time for support to arrive and help, and to be honest I feel not enough time for the cops in pursuit to do anything but chase. As most Canberrrans could appreciate if you were doing a running from the cops and they backed off as you crossed the Hindmarsh/Canberra Ave lights you'd sure as shit nail it as hard as you can on the straight to attempt to get enough distance to let you get into Narrabundah/the burbs and wait out the chase. Cutting left onto the Monaro isn't an option because it's too open and too easy for the cops to cut across the centre to impede the escape.

The pic Bevan posted makes me fairly sure I've met the 626 thief dude - if he's the same guy I'm thinking of then pretty much all the comments about him are true... Still trying to work out if the Astina Driver was someone I've come across on a forum before - the recently ACT plated, lightly tweaked Astina makes me think it could be.....

[Chase Rockwell]

Tragic loss of life.

[The Schapelle Guru]

WHAT THE FUCK!!!

Speaking to Neil Mitchell’s program today, the inconsolable mother of Skye, Ms Webb, 44, said: “It’s terrible. People have really got to get the message out there that police have got to stop this. Innocent people are dying all because of police chases. Obviously you run from the police because you don’t want to get caught."

In her comments today, she said police should have radioed other areas to set up a road block.

She blamed “young coppers” for pursuing the car, and said they were “totally” at fault, although she acknowledged “Justin may have a little bit to do with it”.

While Justin had “done wrong” by stealing a car, it was a “petty little crime”.

"He didn’t murder anyone at the time, you know. But that’s what it led him to because of the police chase.”

Ms Webb said she knew that Justin had been in trouble before.

“Justin’s not a bad kid. He’s just got a bit mixed up in the criminal world.”

She said she not contacted about her daughter’s accident by the police, and only learned about the tragedy the next morning about 1.30am.

A sobbing Ms Webb said police had failed in their duty to her.

absofuckinglutely un fucking believable some of the shit some people can come up with, on national tv as well

she's is just jealous that she couldn't find the keys to her car so she could be chased by the cops while on a suspended license and high as a kite

Can I ask a genuine question of the police that are on here (and if you can't answer this for whatever reason, fair enough) - in a chase situation such as this one, is the strategy basically to give chase in the hope that they will come to their senses and pull over (and by extension, when it becomes apparent that this won't happen and/or things are getting dangerous, to call off the chase)? I can't imagine that the police would really want to chase someone across the city at high speed for half an hour if the offender doesn't stop?

this is just speculation, but if cops refused to even chase a car

then every punk thief would just go out and steal cars,thinking they weeren't going to get chased,

I remember seeing an interview of some oxygen thief who carried knives around saying "yo bro, whadda the dumb cops gonna do to me, they can't search me if I'm not doing anything wrong, so they can stick right up their ass"

so I guess they gotta chase them to some extent

[rj_astra]

Is the PIT move the one you see on Yank Cop shows (they give the chased vehicle a hit in the rear quarter)?

If so, I can't see it being of much use as more and more cars get ESP

[Captain_Slow]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not for a moment suggesting chases should be banned. Just genuinely wondering what the protocol is.

[BeverlyHillsCop]

Is the PIT move the one you see on Yank Cop shows (they give the chased vehicle a hit in the rear quarter)?

If so, I can't see it being of much use as more and more cars get ESP

yes.

ESP wont save you when u really get the shit rammed out of you

[80DGY]

WHAT THE FUCK!!!

Speaking to Neil Mitchell’s program today, the inconsolable mother of Skye, Ms Webb, 44, said: “It’s terrible. People have really got to get the message out there that police have got to stop this. Innocent people are dying all because of police chases. Obviously you run from the police because you don’t want to get caught."

In her comments today, she said police should have radioed other areas to set up a road block.

She blamed “young coppers” for pursuing the car, and said they were “totally” at fault, although she acknowledged “Justin may have a little bit to do with it”.

While Justin had “done wrong” by stealing a car, it was a “petty little crime”.

"He didn’t murder anyone at the time, you know. But that’s what it led him to because of the police chase.”

Ms Webb said she knew that Justin had been in trouble before.

“Justin’s not a bad kid. He’s just got a bit mixed up in the criminal world.”

She said she not contacted about her daughter’s accident by the police, and only learned about the tragedy the next morning about 1.30am.

A sobbing Ms Webb said police had failed in their duty to her.

Typical shitskin 'notmyfault' rubbish

[BeverlyHillsCop]

fuck you guys i'm gonna go out and steal a car... it's only petty little crime... nobody cares for that shit... you cant get charged with it or sent to jail for it....

.....


..... shit sorry, on that note, does anyone know of any cars in canberra that have hand controls that i can steal pls. I need a ride home.

[Marv]

ESP wont save you when u really get the shit rammed out of you

Is that why they didn't even bother fitting it to the early MX5s?

PS: Bevan, I just pissed myself at a mental image of a bloke in a wheelchair sitting beside a Lamborghini like a beggar with a cardboard sign reading, "Want to steal this car, but need able-bodied help. Don't worry, its a trivial crime - just fuckin' relax, aye!"

[GT-R LM]

2 parties to be blamed in my opinion is the dickhead who stole the car and the judge that didnt lock him up the last time he tried it.

Also that girls mother needs a good shin kick to the teeth

[Cal]

2 parties to be blamed in my opinion is the dickhead who stole the car and the judge that didnt lock him up the last time he tried it.

^this

[sprintman]

"we're all forgetting the real victim here. some poor sob got his car stolen and wrecked. his beautiful 626. "

That poor sob was me. Pity the low life died as I would have really like to have had a 'chat' with him but alas he piked it. Car owed me three to four times the available insurance and yet his low life girl friends parents say "not really his fault". I'd better not say any more right now!