What torque settings to reassemble my Simmons with?

[Cplus]

Muz - you sure? i've never seen nyloc nuts on simmons and that includes a brand new pair straight from the factory.

[takai]

Loctite is your friend also.

Yeah, definitely using Loctite on it whatever torque settings.

Also these ones seem to be the original bolts/nuts, aged about the same as the rim. Plus the new V4s that a mate got in 2007 had that style of nut, not nyloc or trilocs.

[7HEAVN]

Me too. 8 Alta's.
Last one Retro did for me had a leak through the silicone....

How much does Retro charge to take them apart and put them back together?.

[lysdexia]

I think those are called Nordloc.. why are they so pricey? we use em at work (in washer form as a pair per nut).

nord locks are just the washers, they have nothing to do with the nuts

those nuts are called wizzloc nuts, or just serrated flanged lock nuts.


as for the torque value for doing the wheels up, i have seen 30 ft/lb thrown around as the correct value for SSR wheels, but even then it would depend on the bolts/nuts used.

[BigMuz]

We always used the aircraft nylocs but the main point is not to use a mild steel nut.

[JESUS CHRIST]

How much does Retro charge to take them apart and put them back together?.

Not sure actually, always had inners replaced at the same time and on multiple wheels. Got sick of the cost hence was going to try to do it myself. Problem fixed = bought different wheels

[gxxr]

Not sure of the name of them, they're all metal, self locking nuts - should be readily available at any reasonable fastener place. Seem to be common on all the three piece wheels I've touched...top looks like it's staked.

There are comprehensive tables for imperial fasteners in shear and tension, coarse and fine thread. After trying to get something on 10x1.25 12.9 grade into aluminium the other week, might have to resort to best guess if there's nothing standard.

[Karnage]

Is it worth asking the fastener supplier what the recommended torque value is?

[Greg Rust]

If you can wait a bit I will dig around in our archive for AS1275-1985 for metric fasteners.

It will be 70% of the proof load with lubricated threads.

[Karnage]

On that subject, does locktite work as a lubricant when torquing bolts? I have seen a few threads arguing that it hinders accurate torque readings vs a properly lubricated thread torqued correctly shouldn't need locktite

[Merry Vanly Stan]

call them and ask??

http://simmonswheel.com.au/

i would be rather sad if i took a random answer off an internet forum and my wheels fell apart.

[Uwish]

Would Neales wheels know?
They seem to repair alot of wheels
30 Gould St
South Strathfield NSW 2136
(02) 9642 1002

[Supercrown]

If you can wait a bit I will dig around in our archive for AS1275-1985 for metric fasteners.

It will be 70% of the proof load with lubricated threads.

+++1

You should go by the specific nut/bolt combination you have.

Any number you get from a part manufacturer will simply be based on fastener type/size/grade.

[takai]

Yeah, can wait for a bit. Ill pull out the part numbers for those nuts and bolts and find out what grade they really are from Coventries.

[Greg Rust]

On that subject, does locktite work as a lubricant when torquing bolts? I have seen a few threads arguing that it hinders accurate torque readings vs a properly lubricated thread torqued correctly shouldn't need locktite

Molydbenum disulphide grease is actually the best lubricant for tensioning fasteners especially internal engine components, but for something like a wheel assembly that is subject to vibrations, then I would prefer to have an anerobic locking compound on them, as the range of tension is going to be pretty fine for a small M8. but yes a correctly tensioned fastener shouldn't come undone..but then Murphy steps in sometimes.

call them and ask??

http://simmonswheel.com.au/

i would be rather sad if i took a random answer off an internet forum and my wheels fell apart.

I spoke to Simmons some time ago about buying new outers and they really said that they weren't interested some bullshit liability thing,

I seriously doubt that they would then provide tension specs for someone, imagine if they gave that info and then you fucked it up and it came apart.