FT-86 to be named FR-S...

[Mr Ed]

Yes but its a RWD sports car in the same price range.

[Rona]

Not the 4 banger version.

[Mr Ed]

What do you mean not the 4 banger.....is it not RWD? Or is it more expensive?

[TonyJZX]

i would question how viable that is... in the US (which is the only market that you can compare), the RWD sport/muscle whatever cars start at around $22-$23k... the v6 mustangs, turbo 4 genesis etc.

Toyota would be brave hitting the same pricepoint with a 150kW four

they can of course, and i'm guessing they'll be reasonably successful given the pent up demand but somewhere down the track i would not surprise me if it hits $20k or less

this is a $26,990 Mustang GT... yeah...

[Captain_Slow]

I do not understand the comparison between these and a Golf.

The only real comparison is that they're going to be about the same money. But seriously, why would you buy a Golf over this unless you had a desperate need for four doors? They both have bugger all rear-seat room I suspect so I'd get this and let me kids climb into the back. They'd think it's fun anyway

[Rona]

What do you mean not the 4 banger.....is it not RWD? Or is it more expensive?

Look at the post above yours then look at my comment.

[Mr Ed]

Meh, this thread moves too quick. :p

[Rona]

Meh, this thread moves too quick. :p

Bitches getting wet over a new sports toyota.

[rj_astra]

i would question how viable that is... in the US (which is the only market that you can compare), the RWD sport/muscle whatever cars start at around $22-$23k... the v6 mustangs, turbo 4 genesis etc.

Toyota would be brave hitting the same pricepoint with a 150kW four

Except it won't be a Toyota in the USA. It will be marketed as a Scion. Not sure what that allows them to do (ask a higher price??)

[TonyJZX]

scion has aspirations of being able to ask higher prices like Lexus just like how they want to target hipsters and ended up transporting bluehairs

hasn't worked out how they wanted

[schnitzelburger]

when are car designers going to get over the shaved wheel arches look

looks retarded

[perthdrivers.txt]

I think you fail to remember that torque turns tyres

280 Nm at 1700 - 5200 rpm for the GTi, rather than 205 nm at 6,600. A GTi will be significantly faster in a straight line-

I think we've already worked out that any number of cars are going to be faster in a straight line, but thats not the point. This car will by all rights decimate a GTi anywhere that involves cornering and handling, and no doubt be a heap more fun in the process. Remember that several people here have said they dont like the GTi's numb lack of feel and FWD-ness, two flaws that are not going to be an issue for the Toybaru

[rowdytoot]

I think we've already worked out that any number of cars are going to be faster in a straight line, but thats not the point. This car will by all rights decimate a GTi anywhere that involves cornering and handling, and no doubt be a heap more fun in the process. Remember that several people here have said they dont like the GTi's numb lack of feel and FWD-ness, two flaws that are not going to be an issue for the Toybaru

the post I was responding to said that the toybaru would be as fast as a Gti cos it has the same powah & is lighter... i said he was wrong.

I'd buy a Clio Sport Cup before I bought a toybaru.... Ibet it will be a) faster b) cheaper...

[baggins]

i think we've already worked out that any number of cars are going to be faster in a straight line, but thats not the point. This car will by all rights decimate a gti anywhere that involves cornering and handling, and no doubt be a heap more fun in the process. Remember that several people here have said they dont like the gti's numb lack of feel and fwd-ness, two flaws that are not going to be an issue for the toybaru

rofl.

[rj_astra]

I think we've already worked out that any number of cars are going to be faster in a straight line, but thats not the point. This car will by all rights decimate a GTi anywhere that involves cornering and handling, and no doubt be a heap more fun in the process. Remember that several people here have said they dont like the GTi's numb lack of feel and FWD-ness, two flaws that are not going to be an issue for the Toybaru

Except the GTI is not the only car in the segment. You also have the Megane RS250, the Scirocco R, upcoming Focus ST, new Renault Clio RS (turbo this time).

Do people want low powered rwd sports cars? The dwindling sales of the Mazda MX5 says maybe they don't.