FT-86 to be named FR-S...

[<---cop]

For a hater it must of been poor judgement to put a deposit in on a brz sti.

The truth comes out?

[cracka]

Do all circuit racing types argue back and forth constantly like a pack of pussy hurt teenage girls as seems to be happening here?

Don't know. But straight line arguments are easier to quantify and compare, are they not. So of course it gets attention on a forum where numbers suggest performance, not a kinesthetic relationship with a car to properly judge what's best.

Anyone buying an 86 who expects it to be as fast as an fg falcon taxi is deluded. Brilliant car, but no different to an mx5 and noone talks about them in straight lines.

[cracka]

The truth comes out?

No. Sold brz because not turboing. Rather put money into v12. As per sale add on pf.

Brz sti because brz is excellent car and by then it should have some nice quirks to set it apart. The boys at sti have been doing phenomenal cars since 1994? So can be quietly confident it will be a good thing.

[Dave]

kinesthetic

props

[cracka]

Word a day calender

[piss98]

Yep, they might even make them in a size large enough for your wife!

LOL I posted my wife's rig the other day....to even things out let me post a pic of yours.

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IIRC none of the modded 86s/BRZ's (except the Turbo one) in Motor Mag Hot Tuner this month could do better than a 15.1

[rorge]

LOL I posted my wife's rig the other day....to even things out let me post a pic of yours.

*makes way to thread of the century to see how things have changed...* OUCH! :D

[perthdrivers.txt]

IIRC none of the modded 86s/BRZ's (except the Turbo one) in Motor Mag Hot Tuner this month could do better than a 15.1

That's pretty hilarious given the 500000 reviews online showing stock ones doing mid to high 14s

[MZ21]

That's pretty hilarious given the 500000 reviews online showing stock ones doing mid to high 14s

I think only one review got a 14.9 didn't they? The rest where 15 or above.

[perthdrivers.txt]

Most of the online auto mags like R&T, Motortrend, Ignition, etc were getting high 14s easy, standing start, BRZ or FRS

[Deus Ex]

No. Sold brz because not turboing. Rather put money into v12. As per sale add on pf.

Brz sti because brz is excellent car and by then it should have some nice quirks to set it apart. The boys at sti have been doing phenomenal cars since 1994? So can be quietly confident it will be a good thing.

An extra 50hp is hardly phenomenal. Dale did something far more phenomenal by the sounds of it. STI brakes and pretty bodykit aside, its not going to be a different car. If you want a different car, that's why Subaru sells a WRX STI.

[Rona]

All the modded NA ones were making the same power you'd expect a stocker too anyway ie 105-110rwkw so i don't think their intake, exhaust & tuning mods were actually achieving much as some were claiming.

[Nafe]

I didn't buy the mag but had a quick flick through. I think they were claiming to have smoothed out or eliminated the torque curve dip.

[cracka]

An extra 50hp is hardly phenomenal. Dale did something far more phenomenal by the sounds of it. STI brakes and pretty bodykit aside, its not going to be a different car. If you want a different car, that's why Subaru sells a WRX STI.

Nah. It will be a brz with wheels, brakes, body kit.

Then I'll turbo it with a forged 8:1 fb25 short block and gt40.

And watch fuckwits complain I ruined the delicate balance or some shit.