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    Originally posted by Ribfeast View Post
    Anyone managed to get a H6 3.0 engine into an 86?
    yup, think theres even the workings of a kit?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GTAztP4-7E
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      Originally posted by Ribfeast View Post
      Anyone managed to get a H6 3.0 engine into an 86?
      yeah like three times because everyone just turbo's
      it seems to fit nice, starter motor is on wrong side of gearbox though
      Originally posted by Walt Kowalski
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        Surely it would be a torque monster

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          Originally posted by 200MPH View Post

          Problem with 2ZZ and the like is you get not benefit out of the sky high power when driving 'normally' on the road. I've owned a B16A civic daily, own a 2ZZ and test driven a 2ZZ in various corollas/celicas. Up until the high lift cams kick in, you may as well be driving the grandma spec donk. So life begins at 6000 rpm. Which is fantastic on track, but useless on the road.
          Agree, mate of mine who had a Sportivo Corolla said the same, it was ultimately an exercise in frustration.... but the parallels with the 86 are there - i always thought it was a far better track/khana thrasher than a daily for this same reason

          Turbo direct injected 4cyl have no soul and are appliances, but they work far better in a daily.
          The thing is, at the 86's price point you cant expect something like a Cayman which makes a N/A great at both, and for the 90% of 86s which would never see a track anyway - punchy turbo engine (or more cubes) all the way.

          Originally posted by Jim
          I feel that rules are important as without rules there is no cheating and cheating is a vital part of drag racing.

          Originally posted by elfturbomax
          What has happened to PF? It seems to be diesel love now days. Maybe the name should be changed to Particulate Forums.

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            Originally posted by fury View Post
            And turbo is awesome.. something like a 1.8L turbo would be good in this thing..keeping it emissions friendly yet allowing people to tune it and fuck emissions.

            Unfortunately Subaru does not have much in it's stable to allow this..
            Subaru has a brand new 1.8 turbo engine (CB18) which has just come to market in the new Levorg. Only 130kW but 300Nm. An 86/BRZ with that much torque and a power bump to say 150-160kW would probably get along pretty nicely.

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              Originally posted by Reax View Post
              I think it has been said before, if they turbo it or even used a detuned WRX engine, Subaru will lose customers that would have normally purchased WRX. Even worse , they will share those customers with Toyota.
              Is there really that great an overlap between 86/BRZ and WRX customers? I'd be super interested in a turbo 86/BRZ and not at all interested in a WRX.

              But maybe Subaru thinks there's an overlap, and that's the problem.

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                New BRZ announced

                https://www.autoblog.com/2020/11/18/2022-subaru-brz-revealed/#slide-2278568

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                  170kW at 7000rpm and 250Nm at 3700rpm. That second figure is great news IMHO, considering the current car has 205Nm at 6400rpm and the infamous 4000rpm torque dip. Should be a much more pleasant daily drive and fire out of corners faster. Still would have liked to see a turbo version, but this might be a pretty good substitute.

                  I don't mind the way it looks either - probably slightly prefer the current one at the front but some of the rear details are nice; there's a bit of RCF/LFA/LC500 in there and the tail lights "stick out" in a similar way to the GR Yaris. Interior is a lot like the GR Yaris too, which makes me think Toyota did the styling again. Maybe the Toyota version will have a better front bar; the BRZ one is a bit Subaru-messy.

                  On the whole I like it. I don't know that I'd be queuing up at the Toyota dealer on day of release, but it'd be on my list when the time comes to replace my 86.

                  Heaps of photos here: https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/...ealed-gallery/
                  Last edited by Captain_Slow; 19-11-20, 07:32 AM. Reason: Got my Lexus acronyms mixed up

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                    I think I've found my next track hack to buy in 5-6 years time when they're $15K. Hopefully they'll sell in big numbers like the current model (86 that is)

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                      Seems an improvement on every level.. with a proper exhaust, may even sound ok..

                      Some early vids:

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK5A7kOg3m0

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjkmcTQVzD0

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l6u6zdAv2w

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQerjHPcaL0
                      Last edited by fury; 20-11-20, 12:33 PM.
                      RIP Simon - Ghost ride that whip in the clouds forever..

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                        LOL - some per-rendered guesses are pretty much the same as the production vehicle -> https://www.caradvice.com.au/876301/...-sti-rendered/
                        RIP Simon - Ghost ride that whip in the clouds forever..

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                          I’m a bit disappointed by the engine, the torque to power relationship is way too truckish for a sports car IMO but if it creates some headroom for breathing mods which give good results it should be a good thing.

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                            People were frothing over the Toyota version, clearly a render of a smaller Supra.

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                              I prefer the current one’s styling. It just pinches in too much at the doors for my liking and the rear doesn’t seem to fit the behind the front wheels detailing. Havign said that, the blue one looks much better.
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                                The design has some similarities to that new Nissan, was it a 400z

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