School me on Diesels

[sean]

Plenty of those abortions around, I wouldn't buy one however as they're mostly ex mining vehicles

[takai]

Which abortions? Dualcab Patrols/Cruisers?

I havnt seen any, lots of single cab ones though.

[fatz]

i shall jump on the toyota TD is shit bandwagon
having a 4 litre prado

it runs 12/100 day to day
19 litres on the frewway at 120km/h with 2.5 on the tow ball
16 litres if you do 80 km/h around town towing
have mates with td prados who tow similar loads and they are up for 15/100

on up hills you have to kick back a gear but i havent met a hill with the prado where its dropped below 110 ( still get 19 litres 100 flat to the bord)

i would have got a td but they want 10k extra and 10k buys alot of fuel and would take approximately 4 years to justify itself ( assuming they cost the same which they havent for a long time)

in saying that i have now driven a few bmw x5 TD's and man they are nice, i would trade the prado in on one of those however they come with non servicable things suck as diffs that scare me

[sean]

Yeah, never made from the factory.

Workshops took an angle grinder to the back of wagons to make them dual cabs and fill a hole in the mining industy. Those that are around now are either fucked from being in the mining industry or have been made in peoples back sheds.







The other option for a larger dual cab turbo diesel would be a defender.

It's a love them or hate them type deal, ergonomics in the cab suit some and not others. No denying their offroad ability and you wont need to think twice about what you tow with a 4000kg braked towing limit

this one's only $10k

[takai]

Yeah, nah.

Dont need the size, but i was mainly curious about the cruisers. Hell i wouldnt mind the top dualcab cruiser.

[Asteroid]

There are a lot of dual cab 80 and 100 cruisers over here, seemingly for private use (and also patrols). The tray ends up very short, so may not be very useful.

[takai]

Look to be about as long as the standard dualcab ute tray. At least in the top photo of the 80 series dualcab.

[sean]

I had a dual cab 75 Series Landcruiser for work, much like the top one, however it also had an extended chassis so the tray was about the size of a normal Lanscruiser tray.

It was a prick of a thing, known as a the "bannana boat" because the extended chassis wasn't really up to the job and sagged in the middle, had to look down over the front of the bonnet to see forwards.

[DR GTR]

Would a slight two second shutter and shake on cold start up be early sign of glow plugs? Warm starts are fine. I believe when I give the glow plugs a second warm up its better.

[Sir Revalot]

As far as my 2.8TD pajero is concerned, I have found that fuel running back into the tank causes slightly spluttery cold startup. A diesel mechanic that was on last 4x4 trip told me this. If I crank it over for a second or 2 in the morning (after it has been sitting overnight or longer) then turn ignition off, then glow plugs and start it, it starts fine. If I try to start it up without cranking it over first on a cold start it sometimes 'coughs' a bit as there is some air being purged. It's definitely not injection pump as that was fully reconditioned recently. Could be glow plugs but doubtful as these were replaced not too long ago and as above, the 'cranking' method sees it start perfectly on cold mornings.

[DR GTR]

Shouldnt a car hold fuel pressure though. atleast overnight. If new cars did that then it wouldnt be acceptable.
If you believe its fuel pressure related maybe i should check the fuel lines from tank to front today. Make sure all clamps are tight and no leaks too.
Another mate with the same Surf doesnt have this small issue.

[Sir Revalot]

Yeah it probably should and I will check all the lines next time I do an oil change (in the very near future), although from what the diesel mechanic said this kind of thing sometimes does happen on older diesels. I'll see what I find anyway.

[DR GTR]

Keep me updated too. Might point me in the right direction too.
Thanks heaps.

[JZK25]

It's quite common to need a one way valve on the fuel feed line. Diesel shops normally sell them.

[MR-PUNANNY]

just re-mortgage and get a 200 Series twin turbo...

I love my 80 series but its a thirsty fucker