Moon landing conspiracy theorists - lend me your ears.

[TT]

I was watching the moon the night they landed on it through a super telescope.
I saw them landing and getting out and walking around.

case closed fag!

[Sketchy]

Defined for which part of it?

Maybe the conspiracy bit?

Why because it was in America? With all due respect that I can afford to truly innocent people who died it was a pretty minor event in history.

I beg to differ, ask anyone in the street about what 9/11 means and then pick some other major historical happenings to see what the response is. Just because other stuff has happened doesnt take away from the event being a global reminder of what humanity is capable of, both good and bad. If you are a poor uneducated kid in the middle of nowhere chances are you know about 9/11 as opposed to other significant events like the fall of the Berlin Wall, Tianamen Square massacre, the end of apartheit (and Mandella being released from prison), numerous poignant battles in WW1 and WW2, etc, etc ,etc. 9/11 played out on the tv screens and computer screens of billions of people worldwide and brought entire nations to a standstill. You reckon that's a minor event?

[No_idea]

They didn't go back yes because it's really expensive but also because they had beaten the crap out of the Russians. They'd also had a good run and not lost any astronauts in space so it was a good record to finish with.
It would also cost a hell of a lot more than 1.2 billion these days.

They were quiet happy to spend money to have a guy on the moon playing golf in 1971.

Wasn't there anything better to do ie search for Lt Ripley?

[Sketchy]

it's the building that houses the people in charge of (probably) the most powerful military in the world. I somehow thing the concrete the walls were made out of was a bit stronger than your average office block, and the wings of a plane aren't exactly strong in comparison to a couple of feet of cement.

Walls of the Pentagon was like 1m thick sandstone and granite.

Duly noted, however I still would have thought that one of two things would have happened in this scenario:

1: wings are made of cheese compared to walls of pentagon. Plane belts building, wing bust off instantly on impact and are left lying on the lawn (more or less).

2. Plane belts big fuck off building at high speed. Sheer force of impact causes wings to tear through building at least a short distance and leave suitable damage consistent with wings hitting as opposed to entire fuselage.

No tin foil hat, just wanting to understand the physics of what happened.

Well one of my hobbies is Photography......

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So where's all your hot shit photos in the photography section then to prove your mad skillz?

[Soopy]

Duly noted, however I still would have thought that one of two things would have happened in this scenario:

1: wings are made of cheese compared to walls of pentagon. Plane belts building, wing bust off instantly on impact and are left lying on the lawn (more or less).

2. Plane belts big fuck off building at high speed. Sheer force of impact causes wings to tear through building at least a short distance and leave suitable damage consistent with wings hitting as opposed to entire fuselage.

No tin foil hat, just wanting to understand the physics of what happened.

More or less my sentiment.

[rj_astra]

Did anyone watch the Mythbuster episode regarding how deep underwater you had to be to avoid being killed by a bullet. If i remember correctly the energy of the bullet was dispersed within < 1m... even a 50 caliber.

So i can quite understand how a plane will vaporise when hitting good old solid earth at 800km/h

[Soopy]

Did anyone watch the Mythbuster episode regarding how deep underwater you had to be to avoid being killed by a bullet. If i remember correctly the energy of the bullet was dispersed within < 1m... even a 50 caliber.

So i can quite understand how a plane will vaporise when hitting good old solid earth at 800km/h

This is true, I've just been trying to find evidence for it in other cases.

[Sturmovik]

Plane didnt have any fuel on board, just water to simulate the weight

[Soopy]

Hrm, Fair enough.

Would be interesting to see what, if anything was left after that.

[No_idea]

Duly noted, however I still would have thought that one of two things would have happened in this scenario:

1: wings are made of cheese compared to walls of pentagon. Plane belts building, wing bust off instantly on impact and are left lying on the lawn (more or less).

2. Plane belts big fuck off building at high speed. Sheer force of impact causes wings to tear through building at least a short distance and leave suitable damage consistent with wings hitting as opposed to entire fuselage.

Well i'm wrong on the missile thing, noidea as usual.

Most pics of the Pentagon show hardly any wreckage but on the link below you will see small metal pieces everywhere which is exactly what you would expect. Most conspiracy sites don't show those pics so you see the odd chunk and wonder WTF the plane went. Well, it's in a billion pieces as it's aluminium.

The wings and tail are not solid so they to would obliterate on impact. Only the bottom structure of the plane is solid and that is the part which was strong enough to bust through the reinforced walls and create a hole in the building.

[Soopy]

Well i'm wrong on the missile thing, noidea as usual.

Most pics of the Pentagon show hardly any wreckage but on the link below you will see small metal pieces everywhere which is exactly what you would expect. Most conspiracy sites don't show those pics so you see the odd chunk and wonder WTF the plane went. Well, it's in a billion pieces as it's aluminium.

The wings and tail are not solid so they to would obliterate on impact. Only the bottom structure of the plane is solid and that is the part which was strong enough to bust through the reinforced walls and create a hole in the building.

Yeah, the only thing I found weird was the fact that there was really minimal damage where you would have expected the wings to have gone splat. But I guess that makes sense. Given the strength of the building.

[Buco_73]

seems legit... good luck with the ad hominems in here buco

They look quite excited for a trio who just went into the history books as the greatest achievement of man kind. Ohhh, must be the anal probes causing all the discomfort or the fact they have to lie to the public. I wonder, hmmmm. Just look at the body language of these guys please. They are military men, These are honest god fearing men forced to lie and deceive their nation, whether in part or the whole thing.

Interesting video. Leave a lot to chase up and verify. Not proof of anything, just an interesting video with some mission inconsistencies that warrant further investigation.

[Buco_73]

A different twist. Maybe this is the reason for the discomfort of the astronauts.

[Billzilla]

They were quiet happy to spend money to have a guy on the moon playing golf in 1971.

Well no they didn't. Pretty much every second of the time they were on the Moon was very carefully scripted. The planners knew how fast they could walk, how long it'd take them to set up the various experiments, etc, so they could budget for 'X' amount of time to do all the tasks they needed to do on each walk. There was a small buffer allowed in all that so at times when everything went perfectly the astronauts would have a little spare time at the end of the walk. Sometimes 30 seconds, sometimes longer.
Alan Shepard had enough time to screw the specially made club head to the end of the surface probe handle to turn it into a golf club. He had a couple of gold balls with him, he missed the first two but hit on the next swing and because of the low gravity and no atmosphere the ball went quite a distance. Same with the second ball. It was extra difficult because due to the limitations of the pressurised suit he could only use one arm to swing with.




Another bit of trivia - On Apollo 11 neither astronaut was allowed to kneel down on the surface as the missions controllers weren't sure they could get back up again. Aldrin, who was/is religious, went against that and when he wasn't on the camera he got down on his knees for a couple of seconds to pray ... or whatever is appropriate for a Catholic on the Moon. On the famous photo of him, you can see the lunar dust on the front of his legs up to his knees.



One of the coolest things one of the astronauts did though was on the last mission, Gene Cernan was running a little late on his last walk but on the way back to the LM he stopped for a couple of seconds and wrote the initials of his daughters name in the lunar dust. So for the next few million years or so, Tracey Cernan will have her name written on the Moon.

[Buco_73]

Pretty cool UFO videos...some explained, but nice compilation..
Not sure how related to the thread, ahh well.



Get ready to have your asses probed bitches.