Current hotness in track/street tyres

[scooby36]

also, who sells neovas? and whats a ballpark price, comparable to RSR's or whatever? 235 17 for example..


http://www.option1garage.com.au/NewTyres.htm pretty hard to beat!

[Rorz de Puniet]

I'm not a fan of r-spec tyres on the road.

A sharp stone can puncture them.

If you get them hot and then drive over some gravel they will media-blast your underbody/guards/sills/etc for you (this is why race-cars look so shitty up close).

NVH is annoying.

Standing water can render them undrivable.

Until they warm up they can be a bit skaty.

They tend to flatspot sitting in the garage - creates extra NVH.

The grip is so high that you have to drive stupidly fast to slide the car around.

I find the biggest issues with R-spec's on the road are road noise (can be fucking unbearable on a daily), tramlining (if the road slopes off to the left the car will try fucken hard to go there) and yeah- wet weather. Some are better than others but they can be pretty sketchy in the wet. Haven't really found grip from cold to be a problem, most semi's grip as well as a street tyre even from dead cold (on dry bitumen).


For the guys running AD08's or RE11's, how many km's are you getting out of a set on what car and how many track days are included in those km's?

I've been wanting to get my SS ute (bolt on, tune, teins and AP's) out to a trackday for a while now but was thinking I'd probably destroy the OEM Potenzas in a day then be up for fairly serious coin to replace them. I don't really want to get a second set of wheels and track tyres as they'd have to be 19's to clear the brakes (or really expensive compomotive 18's) plus the cost of semi's in that size just makes it too expensive to go out and have a laugh/cut slow laps (in comparison to the bikes).

The AD08's or RE11's sound like a really good compromise though. Should be able to do a couple track days without falling apart without all the negatives of full R-specs. Just wondering how many km's I'd get out of them.

[260BC]

I used A048s every day on my old 120Y and R888 on my 1600. I found that they offered way more grip than street tyres under normal driving conditions (cant comment on wet roads never tried it). I got a year out of the R888 driving weekends/track days, and even then it was only the left hand front tyre that was fucked (I assume from roundabouts) That said i wouldn't pay full price and do that, used to get the A048s for $20ea from Aussie Racing cars and the R888s were half price off ebay.

The thing with semis like R888's compared with ordinary road tyres is that they put more surface area on the road so that will give you more grip, in the dry. Just as a bald tyre will do. But it is all relative, try a good crossover like the KU36 or NT05 and it is a different ball game. They will give a better all round performance on the road than any semi.

On the Z I use NT01's for the track and obsolete BFG g-force sport on the road. They have way more grip than I ever use on the road, plus are legal so my insurance is good and they are way better than the NT01's in the wet. Of course the Z's suspension has a lot to do with it too.

[VGP]

also, who sells neovas? and whats a ballpark price, comparable to RSR's or whatever? 235 17 for example..


http://www.option1garage.com.au/NewTyres.htm pretty hard to beat!

Best price I've found for AD08's in a 235/45/17 is $315ea, in Sydney.

[Coffin]

I can get better RSR prices for ACT guys

also, who sells neovas? and whats a ballpark price, comparable to RSR's or whatever? 235 17 for example..


http://www.option1garage.com.au/NewTyres.htm pretty hard to beat!

[Rorz de Puniet]

The thing with semis like R888's compared with ordinary road tyres is that they put more surface area on the road so that will give you more grip, in the dry. Just as a bald tyre will do. But it is all relative, try a good crossover like the KU36 or NT05 and it is a different ball game. They will give a better all round performance on the road than any semi.

On the Z I use NT01's for the track and obsolete BFG g-force sport on the road. They have way more grip than I ever use on the road, plus are legal so my insurance is good and they are way better than the NT01's in the wet. Of course the Z's suspension has a lot to do with it too.

From what I've heard so far the AD08's and RE11's offer far more grip than something like a KU36 without the negatives of a full R-spec.





My cousin has just fitted these to his Evo 9 and loves them. He was using R888's but got sick of the road noise when driving on the street. Reacons the AD08's are quiet like a street tyre but grip like an R-spec. Will probably be fitting a set of these to my car in the near future.

[260BC]

Yokohamas are always so bloody overpriced though.

[Rorz de Puniet]

Yokohamas are always so bloody overpriced though.

They're cheap on tirerack. Even in 19's a set of four is $1200. I priced the RE-11's at well over $800 a tyre in the same size locally. I guess the moral of the story is, don't buy local if you don't want your wallet raped.

[Tyrie]

The thing with semis like R888's compared with ordinary road tyres is that they put more surface area on the road so that will give you more grip, in the dry. Just as a bald tyre will do. But it is all relative, try a good crossover like the KU36 or NT05 and it is a different ball game. They will give a better all round performance on the road than any semi.

I had ku36 on the 1600 before the R888, bought them new and fucked them off after about 1000km. Zero grip when cold, and couldn't warm them up on the street. The R888 I found were at least soft enough to offer good grip from stone cold.

Do these AD08, RS-R, R1-R style tyres suffer from sitting on a shelf for years? I'm half tempted to buy tyres from tirerack but don't want to get fucked again by being promised new stock and getting tyres 3+ years old...

[MR-PUNANNY]

Man i found the AD08 were much better than the Toyo R888 at EC!! I did a 1:46 at EC with them, and a 1:55 at EC with the Toyos lol (But car was alot different too)

[Chisholm]

I generally wouldn't recommend R-comp tyres on the street, but I was very surprised by the R888 when I had em on the street for a bit on the fagna. IMO they are viable as a street tyre, especially on a light car when wear isn't as much of an issue.

They have just as much if not more grip that a good street tyre when stone-cold, only slightly noisier than a street tyre and work fine in the wet. I imagine they would pick up punctures more often, but some of the 'soft' street tyres seem to do that anyway (I've lost count how many punctures my KU36 have picked up).

I wasn't impressed by the R888 on the track though, couldn't get em working properly on my car. IMO about the same as a the Yoko AO32/48 and leagues behind Bridgestone RE55s or Kumho V710 which is my fave these days.

Man i found the AD08 were much better than the Toyo R888 at EC!! I did a 1:46 at EC with them, and a 1:55 at EC with the Toyos lol (But car was alot different too)

+1 R888 are shit on my car (on the front anyway). With virtually no change in setup and probably only a marginal improvement in driving I went from 1:13s around Wakefield to 1:10s switching to Kumho V710. Seems like the R888 just don't work that well on heavier cars?

I love the R888 on the back of my fagna though, because the grip level seems pretty consistent regardless of tyre temp. A big help when there's fuck-all weight there and a fair bit of bias towards turn-in oversteer.

[Cal]

I generally wouldn't recommend R-comp tyres on the street, but I was very surprised by the R888 when I had em on the street for a bit on the fagna. IMO they are viable as a street tyre, especially on a light car when wear isn't as much of an issue.

Perhaps if you live somewhere where it never rains. R888's on a light car in the wet are an accident waiting to happen. They aquaplane badly and the lighter the car, the worse the issue. Hence I use the likes of KU36's on street cars. The shed water vastly better.

[CussCuss]

I generally wouldn't recommend R-comp tyres on the street, but I was very surprised by the R888 when I had em on the street for a bit on the fagna. IMO they are viable as a street tyre, especially on a light car when wear isn't as much of an issue.

They have just as much if not more grip that a good street tyre when stone-cold, only slightly noisier than a street tyre and work fine in the wet. I imagine they would pick up punctures more often, but some of the 'soft' street tyres seem to do that anyway (I've lost count how many punctures my KU36 have picked up).

I wasn't impressed by the R888 on the track though, IMO about the same as a the Yoko AO32/48 and leagues behind Bridgestone RE55s or Kumho V710 which is my fave these days.



+1 R888 are shit on my car (on the front anyway). With virtually no change in setup and probably only a marginal improvement in driving I went from 1:13s around Wakefield to 1:10s switching to Kumho V710. Seems like the R888 just don't work that well on heavier cars?

I love the R888 on the back of my fagna though, because the grip level seems pretty consistent regardless of tyre temp. A big help when there's fuck-all weight there and a fair bit of bias towards turn-in oversteer.

Treadwear rating
V710 - 30
R888 - 100
AO48 - 60

[Kaiser]

Guy I know who is setting up an IPRA Mk2 Escort at the moment has just thrown a new set of A050's on the car after doing the initial setup on a set of A048's and he says they are a massive improvement.

[MR 1JZ]

Ive just ordered some KU36's in 235/45/17 for my evo...had good experience with them on my soarer so I am hoping these are just as friendly

local price on RSR's is fucking rediculous unfortunately

Damo any chance of shipping to radelaide?