Tirerack banned from sendig Yokohama's/Advans overseas

[333pg333]

Nitto NT01's are a viable alternative and can be had out of discount tire or others at a reasonable rate.
I've found that if you use a site's auto shipping calculator it often comes up really expensive, but if you talk to one of their salespeople they can often get that price right down to still make the process way cheaper than buying locally.

Still, I'd be interested if anyone's doing a container.

Do any of the Hot New R specs do anything wider than 295 x 18" ??

[Mr Ed]

Oh yeah, it totally sucks to be a poor Aussie tyre retailer. Real battlers they are! We struggle to make $20-30/tyre on most sizes, and in some cases (common stuff, 175/70R13, 205/65R15, etc) even $10, whereas a shop will whack at least 80% markup on the tyre and sell it to you. Most new tyre distributors go bust after a few years because you simply cannot make a business profitable with such low margins.

If you sold us tyres 80% lower than retail Id give a fuck about your sob story. Hell, make it 50% less than retail, pocket the 30%, everyone wins right?

[Mike the headless chicken]

but as a wholesaler, you supply say 100 retail outlets, if each of those outlets averaged 10 sets of tyres per week, 5 of your brand and 5 from another wholesaler, they have to live on sales of those 40 tyres X $80- $3200, you get 100 outlets x 5 sets of tyres, so 2000 tyres X $20 = $40,000 gee that is tough...

Right... the lease for the Sydney warehouse alone is $630,000pa. So you haven't even covered that. Then there's the other warehouses, trucks, staff, etc. Yeah, swimming in money!

Hey, if you think there's so much money in tyres, you guys are welcome to give it a go. It's a free country.

[myliberty]

They can still send other brands right? I never liked yokos anyway.

[morerevsm3]

Right... the lease for the Sydney warehouse alone is $630,000pa. So you haven't even covered that. Then there's the other warehouses, trucks, staff, etc. Yeah, swimming in money!

Hey, if you think there's so much money in tyres, you guys are welcome to give it a go. It's a free country.

I was only pointing out that a retailer needs a much bigger unit margin due to much lower number to get their income from, Australia will always be far more expensive to run a buisness than the US, purely on number of units that can be sold (doesn't matter if it is cars, TVs or tyres) the overheads are the same as US, shop front has to look the same, spare parts inventry etc, to supply a miniscule percententage of the population

[Eurorogerrevolution]

Right... the lease for the Sydney warehouse alone is $630,000pa. So you haven't even covered that. Then there's the other warehouses, trucks, staff, etc. Yeah, swimming in money!

Hey, if you think there's so much money in tyres, you guys are welcome to give it a go. It's a free country.

I own my own business so I know a lot of your overheads . Rent and insurance will be your biggest 2 killers (they are for me anyway)
Then you have electricity , water , garbage collection , deliveries , wages , office supplies etc etc . It all adds up !

[Nick]

in that case, fuck Yokohama entirely...

/Like!

Just vote with our wallets.

Somewhere someone is making alot of money. McMansions don't build themselves.

[Nick]

They can still send other brands right? I never liked yokos anyway.

I got a quote from them with shipping for Bridgestone RE050As so I'm guessing so yes. I ended up going through Tempe Tyres Bro for some RE050A for the same price per tyre fitted. Bridgestone Select wanted to charge me $460/tyre.. cunts.

[Boxer]

Oh yeah, it totally sucks to be a poor Aussie tyre retailer. Real battlers they are! We struggle to make $20-30/tyre on most sizes, and in some cases (common stuff, 175/70R13, 205/65R15, etc) even $10, whereas a shop will whack at least 80% markup on the tyre and sell it to you. Most new tyre distributors go bust after a few years because you simply cannot make a business profitable with such low margins.



Actually, Yokohama do their own distribution in Australia, so this would be Yokohama (ie. the manufacturer) doing the ass-raping, not us.

Yup, we're the bad guys...

Honestly, good on Yokohama!

Retailers with 80% margins - seriously? Surely thats an exceptional case.

in that case, fuck Yokohama entirely...

Right... the lease for the Sydney warehouse alone is $630,000pa. So you haven't even covered that. Then there's the other warehouses, trucks, staff, etc. Yeah, swimming in money!

Hey, if you think there's so much money in tyres, you guys are welcome to give it a go. It's a free country.

Actually his example returns $2m pa so it covers the warehouse. Whether its a plausible example I dunno

Just sayin'

[S_E]

don't imported tyres not have the adr stamp anyway?

US DOT stamp makes it legal here.

Yeah, but good on yoko for supporting their distribution model.

So now he's probably going to buy a different brand - from overseas, so Yokohama make nothing at all instead of something? it's retarded.

[333pg333]

US DOT stamp makes it legal here.

Not sure about that? Hoosier 2 liners are DOT compliant in the US. Not quite sure what DOT actually means though.

[Rorz de Puniet]

Not sure about that? Hoosier 2 liners are DOT compliant in the US. Not quite sure what DOT actually means though.

Department Of Transport?

[Dave75]

DOT marked tyres [US Department of Transport] are not ADR Compliant.

The 2 groove Hoosiers aren't classified as a Road Legal Semi Slick under ADR Rules.

[morerevsm3]

DOT marked tyres [US Department of Transport] are not ADR Compliant.

The 2 groove Hoosiers aren't classified as a Road Legal Semi Slick under ADR Rules.

ADR's accept DOT, and whatever the Japanese equivalent is, provided they meet the minimum ADR rules for tread depth, and number of cross grooves

[333pg333]

Yup, but why are the Hoosiers '2 liners' DOT then? I'm sure they're not road legal down here. Not entirely sure about the U.S. though. Can guaranty you that you wouldn't want to be driving through anything that resembles standing water.
I think that's why most car clubs sort of ban these, or at least put you in their Open classes to go with the Slick tyred cars. They don't want you to crash on the way to or from the track. Guess that's why not many people use these types of tyres down here as there is no real point vs a true slick. They used to fall between R specs and slicks in terms of lap times, but now with these super soft 'qualies' becoming popular with the Superlap types, that gap might be all but gone. Still, at least the Hoosiers stay driveable for more than 1-2 laps.