Nissan Dualis... Yay or nay?

[Sketchy]

Kia Sportage for sure. Has won plenty of awards etc and ive delivered heaps of Dualis and Sportage and thats where my money would be going.
The whole Kia range has come a long way in the last few years.

This. Test drove one the other day with a nopics friend of mine. Shat on the Rav4 we drove just before it from a great height and was 10k cheaper. Diesel makes over 400nm of torque! The koreans are set to kill this segment. Never thought i'd say it but if I was in the market for something like this I'd be going straight to Kia or Hyundai.

[Spoolin?]

Kia has come a long way in recent years and are making quality cars. I think in the coming years they will become alot more common. People are still unsure as they are used to the Holden, Ford, Toyota etc.

I almost bought a Cerato last year but needed a ute. I still want one though.

[GTREA]

Im liking Kia products a lot, NOT the Hyundai equivilents...I cannot stand there 'Fluid' design philosphy.

Kia Sportage is a winner.

Hopefully the 204kw Kia Optima Turbo comes here



In Wagon form it would kick ass I reckon for a good looking family hack

[TonyJZX]

the base model optima without the tempe garbage can lids and masses of LEDs looks better

[GTREA]

Wheels are vomit inducing but im kinda partial to LEDs

[TonyJZX]

also i would expect people will show some resistance if you try to move them from toy SUVs to hatches or wagons

strangely the CX5 is actually reviewing quite well which i didn't expect... the basic petrol 2wd model seems to be a great little truckster a fair bit above the koreans in dynamics if not plastics

[GTREA]

Is that the one I just read about with only 200nm of Torque?

[TonyJZX]

"lowered expectations"

live it, love it, live with it

i'm guessing the stripper 2wd manual is 1,400kg with say 110kW, 200Nm? you won't be doing any M1 300 runs but its fine for 90% of people who are the target... its a girltruck, i would imagine 90% will be base autos which is fine for kid and coles duties

[smellytofu]

Why would you bother with a jacked up hatchback? Dualis has a smaller boot than a Corolla hatch. Why wouldn't you consider the Focus/3/Golf/Corolla/Lancer/Civic/Impreza???

[rj_astra]

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i'm guessing the stripper 2wd manual is 1,400kg with say 110kW, 200Nm? you won't be doing any M1 300 runs but its fine for 90% of people who are the target... its a girltruck, i would imagine 90% will be base autos which is fine for kid and coles duties

Closer to 1500kg. People were whinging about a 190kw/300nm engine in a 1750kg commodore

[TonyJZX]

Why would you bother with a jacked up hatchback? Dualis has a smaller boot than a Corolla hatch. Why wouldn't you consider the Focus/3/Golf/Corolla/Lancer/Civic/Impreza???

i think some people are truly in love with SUVs or the idea of SUVs... i know people who will only buy SUVs and will never go offroad so those FWD softroaders are perfect

some have an excuse, eg. people with bad backs and older folks etc.

also to many people hatches have the stank of poor or girl cars or whatever and SUVs don't...

i think the Cruze wagon or the upcoming i30 wagon would KILL these things dead but thats just me

[Captain_Slow]

Why would you bother with a jacked up hatchback? Dualis has a smaller boot than a Corolla hatch. Why wouldn't you consider the Focus/3/Golf/Corolla/Lancer/Civic/Impreza???

This x infinity. With the possible exception of easier access to doing up kids' seatbelts and maybe visibility over traffic (diminishing every year as everyone else also buys an SUV), I'm yet to come up with anything a car-based SUV can do that the original car version doesn't do better.

[rj_astra]

i think some people are truly in love with SUVs or the idea of SUVs... i know people who will only buy SUVs and will never go offroad so those FWD softroaders are perfect

People surprise me constantly in their choice of vehicles. How can these vehicles (ASX, Dualis etc) be classed as UTILITY vehicles if they can't hold anymore than a povo spec Corolla? And the power to weight renders them slower than a 22K Golf 1.2L TSI.
But as long as it looks "offroady" and has iPhone integration it's the best car ever built.

[evil_weevil]

so if people have had to make the choice between dualis and ix35....what did you go for?

[GTREA]

so if people have had to make the choice between dualis and ix35....what did you go for?

Dualis is no thing of beauty, but the ix35 is god damn ugly with its weird lines and extra small wheel arches.

Dualis by default