Merc for Stone Brothers Racing

[Scuba-Steve]

I think its a damn good thing that reasonably competitive teams are picking up the new manufacturers cars hopefully theyll be up there.

[Cal]

and to people wanting to come back now there is different makers, get the fuck out. Its the same fucking teams, same cars, with different badging. Big change....

What? It's a new formula.

I don't understand the "I'm the biggest V8SC fan in Ipswich, get the fuck out noob cunts" WTF? If a few changes stir interest from a few race fans who lost interest long ago, isn't that a good thing?

[-Matt-]

Some of these 'fans' were no doubt the same pricks that prompted Richo's Bathurst win 'Pack of Arseholes' speech.

Though the V8SC racing is close (qualifying anyway) I lost interest in the category because I don't identify with the product and the difrrence between the top ten and the back markers are huge....just look at the Kelly Crate Murphy drives. I prefer the close racing and different make in Touring Car Masters, GT's and especially the Improved Production series.

Also like the racing in Aussie Racing Cars & Porsche cup especially now there is Richrds, Gaunt, Baird etc running at the front.

[Cal]

^you forgot Production Sports Cars.

[Supashake]

Does this mean my c63 will now become a bogan car or collectible??

C63 is a polished Quality Bogan car already. Put the right Exhaust on them and they sound very Bogan.

[Aaron]

C63 is a polished Quality Bogan car already. Put the right Exhaust on them and they sound very Bogan.

Cargraphic headers you mean?

[willsy01]

In semi-related news, Tony Cochrane is stepping down as CEO at the end of the year......but will remain as an “external senior advisor to the V8 Supercars Board”.

http://www.speedcafe.com/2012/09/21/...chairman-role/

[darwinschops]

What? It's a new formula.

I don't understand the "I'm the biggest V8SC fan in Ipswich, get the fuck out noob cunts" WTF? If a few changes stir interest from a few race fans who lost interest long ago, isn't that a good thing?

Seems a bit of I liked it when it wasn't cool. Eh.

[brasher]

Does this mean my c63 will now become a bogan car or collectible??

if they dont win, bogan sled, carsales for 8 grand

if they win bathurst, collectable as rocking horse shit, buy a island in the bahama's.

[Momus]

Some of these 'fans' were no doubt the same pricks that prompted Richo's Bathurst win 'Pack of Arseholes' speech.
Those fans may have had a point champ . The GT-R's were, as the designation implies, GT cars with R racing enhancements like 4 wheel drive, 6 speed boxes and heavily turbocharged high performance 4 valve engines. They were racing against family sedans. As history shows they fucked the local Touring Car category comprehensively. Fortunately for people who like local V8 tin top racing CAMS, culpable and complicit in the murder of Group A, stepped back and let sage heads create what has become the most succesful and enduring Touring Car series ever, anywhere.
Though the V8SC racing is close (qualifying anyway) I lost interest in the category because I don't identify with the product and the difrrence between the top ten and the back markers are huge....just look at the Kelly Crate Murphy drives. Haha WTF? I usually cannot be bothered dignifying this sort of rubbish but that was arrant, ignorant nonsense. Have a look below; 6 tenths of a second separates 28 V8X's at their last outing. I havent posted the times but in the TCM qualifying the gap was 13 seconds..... I prefer the close racing and different make in Touring Car Masters, GT's and especially the Improved Production series.

Also like the racing in Aussie Racing Cars & Porsche cup especially now there is Richrds, Gaunt, Baird etc running at the front.

2012 Dick Smith Sandown 500 - V8 Supercars C'ship Race 20
SANDOWN INTERNATIONAL MOTOR RACEWAY

V8 SUPERCARS - Qualifying Race 1


Event R4 20 Laps
Scheduled Start 14:45
OFFICIAL RESULT

Page 1 Issue 1 SM14C
Start Sat Sep 15 14:48
Elapsed Time 23:57


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Pos Car Competitor/Team Driver Vehicle Cap CL Laps Race.Time Fastest...Lap

1 9 SP Tools Racing Luke Youlden Ford Falcon FG 5000 20 23:57.8838 15 1:11.5835
2 1 TeamVodafone Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 23:58.1048 17 1:11.2566*
3 55 The Bottle-O Racing Team Dean Canto Ford Falcon FG 5000 20 23:58.3484 18 1:11.3687
4 6 Trading Post FPR Ford John McIntyre Ford Falcon FG 5000 20 23:59.8790 19 1:11.5143
5 888 TeamVodafone Warren Luff Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:00.1831 19 1:11.4269
6 2 Holden Racing Team Nick Percat Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:01.1582 3 1:11.6381
7 19 Tekno Autosports Scott McLaughlin Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:01.5507 9 1:11.5840
8 47 Lucky 7 Racing Andrew Thompson Ford Falcon FG 5000 20 24:02.4490 7 1:11.7258
9 34 Fujitsu Racing GRM Greg Ritter Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:02.7321 6 1:11.7330
10 18 Team Norton DJR Alex Davison Ford Falcon FG 5000 20 24:04.8367 5 1:11.6729
11 22 Holden Racing Team Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:05.1772 4 1:11.3671
12 15 Jack Daniel's Racing David Russell Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:06.6871 4 1:11.5792
13 8 Team BOC Andrew Jones Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:07.0057 16 1:11.6357
14 4 Irwin Racing Craig Baird Ford Falcon FG 5000 20 24:09.0900 17 1:11.6613
15 12 Jim Beam Racing Matthew Halliday Ford Falcon FG 5000 20 24:11.8509 16 1:11.8590
16 3 Team Hiflex Dale Wood Ford Falcon FG 5000 20 24:12.3545 12 1:11.8606
17 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Tim Blanchard Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:12.6725 14 1:11.6854
18 21 Wilson Security Racing Chris Pither Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:15.6390 13 1:11.8136
19 66 Supercheap Auto Racing Christian Klien (AUT) Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:16.3424 17 1:11.5599
20 33 Fujitsu Racing GRM Jack Perkins Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:22.3482 15 1:11.4990
21 51 Pepsi Max Crew Owen Kelly Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:22.9355 15 1:12.1023
22 30 Team iSelect Scott Pye Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:25.0211 17 1:11.6234
23 14 Lockwood Racing David Besnard Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:25.5572 10 1:11.9370
24 11 Fair Dinkum Sheds Racing Daniel Gaunt Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:26.2122 15 1:12.2202
25 91 Tekno Autosports Jonny Reid Holden Commodore VE2 5000 20 24:26.5340 14 1:12.0564
26 17 Jim Beam Racing Allan Simonsen (DNK) Ford Falcon FG 5000 20 24:32.9682 4 1:12.2944
27 49 VIP Petfoods Paul Morris Ford Falcon FG 5000 20 24:58.7932 3 1:12.3148
EXC 5 Orrcon Steel FPR Ford Steven Richards Ford Falcon FG 5000

PENALTY APPLIED
Competitor# 5 Excluded

Fastest Lap Av.Speed Is 157kph
Current Race Lap Record Is 1:09.8573 Set On 02/08/2009 By Garth Tander In A Holden Commodore VE
R=under lap record by greatest margin, r=under lap record, *=fastest lap time

[TonyJZX]

family sedans = BMW m3, Ford Sierra Cosworth?

because RS500s were not heavily turbocharged high performance 4 valves?

like your response, there's a lot of rose tinted glasses there

[-Matt-]

I was working @ Shell HQ no 1 Spring Street during the Group A years and Tom Smith, Ross Brodie, Channel 7 and a few other parties were involved in adopting a formula that the Aussie racing fan wanted. Shell threw millions of $ in support of DJR

Holden, Ford, Alfa, BMW and Nissan were all reading from the same Group A handbook.....Nissan obviously read it better.

I suppose you could say the same about the E30 M3 2.5 which was the only other car to win a round that year @ Lakeside....they were not allowed to run full euro spec wing package.

As for the current racing 28 cars are seperated by a few tenths during qualifying and it is effectively eroded by the end of the first lap.

I think the great Frank Gardner summed up V8SC well when he stated it was constipated.

[BeverlyHillsCop]

Take away 4WD and the Nissan wouldnt have been anywhere near as dominant as they were....

[1uz-zte]

Take away the power steeting and turbos and they wouldn't have been as good. What's your point?

[TonyJZX]

i'd probably be betting on an r32 gtr rwd vs. say an rs500